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#1 SubZenit

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:15

I just installed Windows 8 RTM, I thought that Windows 8 RP is still a work in progress and the RTM will be much better (in terms of visual), but I was completely amazed but what I've noticed in the first 30 minutes of using it, take a look at the screen shot.

I guess the white stuff just made them blind, they missed out so many things, a small screenshot couldn't contain them all, I'm wondering if they would be able to make any changes or this is the very final build which will come out, anyway ugly is too less to say, they weren't able to follow simple BASIC design rules...

Also making your Windows Borders black will make the Title text disappear completely as it is black too.

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#2 Javik

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:19

Yep, the theme is awful. However you can use the theme from the RP which is a bit less awful (although I don't think transparency has been enabled successfully yet)

#3 OP SubZenit

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:24

Yep, the theme is awful. However you can use the theme from the RP which is a bit less awful (although I don't think transparency has been enabled successfully yet)


It's not about the theme, it's about the whole desktop interface, they left it so messy - I think they are trying to move the users away from desktop to the metro interface, lol.

#4 Steven P.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:24

Yeah, this is why the theme should have been included in the Release Preview so that real world testers could provide feedback.

If you want thinner Window Borders, save below as window_border.reg and merge (restart required)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
"BorderWidth"="0"
"PaddedBorderWidth"="0"

Result:

SNAG-0000.png

#5 grayscale

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:24

Aero transparency -> subjective. I can't comment
Taskbar -> Since I always use black wallpaper, it's not much of a problem for me.
Messy Explorer Interface -> in what way?
No wallpaper -> Don't we always just download wallpapers from the internet anyway?
1-Pixel stuff -> I can't see that on first glance so I don't think that is something that will make me hate.

All others (inconsistencies) -> Agreed.

#6 Luke777

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:28

@Messy Explorer Interface -> in what way?
I use black color and a dark wallpaper, and you can't see the black text in the top border.
Very bad design, the RP with tranparent+white glow background behind/around the top border text was a lot better.

#7 Javik

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:29

It's not about the theme, it's about the whole desktop interface, they left it so messy - I think they are trying to move the users away from desktop to the metro interface, lol.


I agree, it strikes me as being unlikely that they could make it that ugly and not realise how awful it looks.

#8 Max Norris

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:30

Eh some people are more focused on looks than anything else, and can agree, there are a few places where it could be improved. Personally, changing it out anyway, so for me it's squarely in the "don't give a f*" category, non-issue.

#9 grayscale

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:34

@Messy Explorer Interface -> in what way?
I use black color and a dark wallpaper, and you can't see the black text in the top border.
Very bad design, the RP with tranparent+white glow background behind/around the top border text was a lot better.


Well, as a user of dark wallpaper, that's problem for me too but wasn't it that way on transparent+glow as well? It's barely readable when it's just the wallpaper behind it. In Windows 8, I just used the black taskbar + white borders/titlebar and moved on :p

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:39

I noticed the Areo Snap missing line the first time I used it. I can't remember if it was like that in Windows 7.

The Up/Down control looked like that in Windows 7, and it always drove me nuts. Same for the inconsistent spacing for links in the Control Panel.

#11 OP SubZenit

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:42

I noticed the Areo Snap missing line the first time I used it. I can't remember if it was like that in Windows 7.

The Up/Down control looked like that in Windows 7, and it always drove me nuts. Same for the inconsistent spacing for links in the Control Panel.


It wasn't like that in Windows 7, neither Windows 8 RP, they messed up in the RTM as it removed the 'glossy reflection' from the Aero Glass effect and other stuff.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:42

Yeah, this is why the theme should have been included in the Release Preview so that real world testers could provide feedback.

If you want thinner Window Borders, save below as window_border.reg and merge (restart required)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
"BorderWidth"="0"
"PaddedBorderWidth"="0"

Result:

SNAG-0000.png

For even thinner, Windows 7-like settings:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
"BorderWidth"="-15"
"CaptionFont"=hex:f4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,00,\
  00,00,00,01,00,00,05,00,53,00,65,00,67,00,6f,00,65,00,20,00,55,00,49,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"CaptionHeight"="-270"
"CaptionWidth"="-270"
"IconFont"=hex:f4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,00,00,\
  00,00,01,00,00,05,00,53,00,65,00,67,00,6f,00,65,00,20,00,55,00,49,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"IconTitleWrap"="1"
"MenuFont"=hex:f4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,00,00,\
  00,00,01,00,00,05,00,53,00,65,00,67,00,6f,00,65,00,20,00,55,00,49,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"MenuHeight"="-285"
"MenuWidth"="-285"
"MessageFont"=hex:f4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,00,\
  00,00,00,01,00,00,05,00,53,00,65,00,67,00,6f,00,65,00,20,00,55,00,49,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"ScrollHeight"="-255"
"ScrollWidth"="-255"
"SmCaptionFont"=hex:f3,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,\
  00,00,00,00,01,00,00,05,00,53,00,65,00,67,00,6f,00,65,00,20,00,55,00,49,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"SmCaptionHeight"="-285"
"SmCaptionWidth"="-285"
"StatusFont"=hex:f4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,00,\
  00,00,00,01,00,00,05,00,53,00,65,00,67,00,6f,00,65,00,20,00,55,00,49,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"Shell Icon Size"="32"
"AppliedDPI"=dword:00000060
"PaddedBorderWidth"="-15"
"IconSpacing"="-1125"
"IconVerticalSpacing"="-1125"
"MinAnimate"="1"
Result:

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#13 OP SubZenit

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:46

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How about a registry setting that makes the Border title white, as I am planning to make the theme color almost black because of no-transparency on the borders... :)

#14 Steven P.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:48

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I don't see a difference between mine and yours? Am I blind? :p

#15 +Frank B.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 13:50

I don't see a difference between mine and yours? Am I blind? :p

Smaller title bar font (9 pt instead of 10 pt) + a slightly slimmer title bar.