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I have been streaming videos from my PC to my PS3 for a whilenow and I am starting to notice some lag in the video playback. My MP4 files are an average of 4GB. My question is this, does file size play a role in how well the video streams? I have a connection of about 24.56Mbps most times, just checked and it dropped to 18.50Mbps I purchased a 20Mbps package from my ISP. So should I REALLY have a problem streaming? I HATE stuttering video.

Oh and I'm NOT using PS3 Media Server, it's streaming from shared folders in my homegroup. Any help is appreciated! Thanks!

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"I have a connection of about 24.56Mbps most times, just checked and it dropped to 18.50Mbps I purchased a 20Mbps package from my ISP"

Wait, are you streaming to the PC and THEN to the PS3? If that's the case, is it wired or wirelessly connected?

If you're streaming from the PC straight to the PS3, the same question about the connection applies.

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My question is this, does file size play a role in how well the video streams?

I would say yes, it does make a difference. But I have nothing technical to back that up with, just some logical thinking about the amount of data being sent across the network.

I have a connection of about 24.56Mbps most times, just checked and it dropped to 18.50Mbps I purchased a 20Mbps package from my ISP. So should I REALLY have a problem streaming? I HATE stuttering video.

Like Bun-Bun said, unless you are streaming content online to your PC and then from the PC to your PS3, the package that you bought has absolutely no bearing on the speeds of your internal network.

Oh and I'm NOT using PS3 Media Server, it's streaming from shared folders in my homegroup

Out of interest, why aren't you using PS3 Media Server, or a variation of it? I use it and find it quite handy.

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"I have a connection of about 24.56Mbps most times, just checked and it dropped to 18.50Mbps I purchased a 20Mbps package from my ISP"

Wait, are you streaming to the PC and THEN to the PS3? If that's the case, is it wired or wirelessly connected?

If you're streaming from the PC straight to the PS3, the same question about the connection applies.

No, the movies are located on the PC and they are streaming to the PS3 thru a wireless connection. Although I did move my router from my office, where the PC is located, to the living room right next to my PS3. I also decided to hook my PS3 directly into the router via Ethernet but high quality 4GB and up movies still seem to lag a bit. I tested a converted DVD Rip of 1.80GB and it streamed flawlessly. It's starting to seem as if I will only be able watch highly compressed MP4s. :(

I would say yes, it does make a difference. But I have nothing technical to back that up with, just some logical thinking about the amount of data being sent across the network.

Like Bun-Bun said, unless you are streaming content online to your PC and then from the PC to your PS3, the package that you bought has absolutely no bearing on the speeds of your internal network.

Out of interest, why aren't you using PS3 Media Server, or a variation of it? I use it and find it quite handy.

I don't know really, I never really liked extra steps in media streaming. I like to go straight from PC to PS3 without any extra programs. But if this will fix the problem, I will download Media Server. And what are the benefits of PS3 Media Server anyway? Why is it handy? MKV support?

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what are the benefits of PS3 Media Server anyway? Why is it handy? MKV support?

MKV support is definitely a plus for me. In fact, overall its format support is reason enough for me to use it. I guess another thing I enjoy is easily being able to add remove folders that I want or don't want viewable on the network without having to uncheck any kind of sharing options within Windows (or Mac for me) itself. Finally, the cross-platform support is good if you have different operating systems, but that's probably scraping the bottom of the barrel for advantages.

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+1 on PS3 Media Server.

It's a good converting streamer. I use it on my Xbox.

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MKV support is definitely a plus for me. In fact, overall its format support is reason enough for me to use it. I guess another thing I enjoy is easily being able to add remove folders that I want or don't want viewable on the network without having to uncheck any kind of sharing options within Windows (or Mac for me) itself. Finally, the cross-platform support is good if you have different operating systems, but that's probably scraping the bottom of the barrel for advantages.

Hmm, I guess I've been doing it all wrong. I'm going to download and try it because MKV videos are better quality anyway in my experience.

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Wireless is the worst way to stream as well. Get powerline adapters or something if you can't go with a direct hardwire connection.

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Aight so even when I used Media Server it was still choppy. I tested the speed getting to the PS3 and at one point it was 4.35Mbps down and JUST now it was 9.6Mbps down. Maybe I need a new router. I can't connect a wired connection to the PS3 for some reason. :(

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What does your ISP speed have to do with anything if you are streaming locally?

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What does your ISP speed have to do with anything if you are streaming locally?

**** I dont know lol. I figured since it was going from the PC to the PS3 I would need a good connection. Help me pleeease!

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**** I dont know lol. I figured since it was going from the PC to the PS3 I would need a good connection. Help me pleeease!

No yeah, your ISP really does not have that much to do with it. Your router does, which may have been supplied by them, but you are doing all of the streaming on your Local Network, so it all really comes down to how you have things set up.

Bottom line, wireless does not cut it when streaming those larger files. While it may even work at some points, overall it is not ideal. If there is any way to get the PC wired & the PS3 wired to the network, that is what you want and with an app like PS3 media server, should solve all your issues.

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No yeah, your ISP really does not have that much to do with it. Your router does, which may have been supplied by them, but you are doing all of the streaming on your Local Network, so it all really comes down to how you have things set up.

Bottom line, wireless does not cut it when streaming those larger files. While it may even work at some points, overall it is not ideal. If there is any way to get the PC wired & the PS3 wired to the network, that is what you want and with an app like PS3 media server, should solve all your issues.

Oh, well thanks Larry and thanks everyone else. Unfortunately there is no way to hook both up right now since they are in different rooms. Well, none that I know of. The router is one I bought, I might need a better one to limit the "damage" or just compress my files even more to where they fly across the network.

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Are you using a wireless N router + adapter?

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Oh, well thanks Larry and thanks everyone else. Unfortunately there is no way to hook both up right now since they are in different rooms. Well, none that I know of. The router is one I bought, I might need a better one to limit the "damage" or just compress my files even more to where they fly across the network.

Check these out for when you can't hard wire, and wireless isn't cutting it...

https://www.google.com/search?q=powerline+adapter&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=powerline+adapter&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Fju&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=shop&sa=X&ei=5B1jUNzYF7Ts2AXhpoGwBg&ved=0CFMQsxg&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=feea7f6004b558f1&biw=1440&bih=773

They are called Powerline Adapters. Depending on the wiring in your house, you can get speeds the same as it being hard wired, or speeds that are a little lower. It normally though has a better connection and speed than what wireless will provide.

They work by plugging 1 into an outlet with a ethernet cord from your router into it. Then you plug the other adapter into an outlet near your ps3, and run a ethernet cord from the adapter to your ps3. It uses the electrical circuiting in your house as an extension cord for your ethernet cables.

*Edit - had a customer come in, so had to cut this short...

I use this for my place on my 2nd ps3. It works flawlessly. I can stream 1080p movies where the file size is 16gb+. There is never any hiccups or lag, and the speed is equal to what my directly connected PC gets. But it all depends on the wiring in your house. You want to use the adapters on outlets that have really nothing else plugged into them, and make sure that both outlets that the adapters are on, are both on the same circuit/breaker box.

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Are you using a wireless N router + adapter?

Wireless N Router that I bought, but an OLD wireless G adapter. I'm going to pick up a wireless N adapter really soon.

Check these out for when you can't hard wire, and wireless isn't cutting it...

https://www.google.c...iw=1440&bih=773

They are called Powerline Adapters. Depending on the wiring in your house, you can get speeds the same as it being hard wired, or speeds that are a little lower. It normally though has a better connection and speed than what wireless will provide.

They work by plugging 1 into an outlet with a ethernet cord from your router into it. Then you plug the other adapter into an outlet near your ps3, and run a ethernet cord from the adapter to your ps3. It uses the electrical circuiting in your house as an extension cord for your ethernet cables.

*Edit - had a customer come in, so had to cut this short...

I use this for my place on my 2nd ps3. It works flawlessly. I can stream 1080p movies where the file size is 16gb+. There is never any hiccups or lag, and the speed is equal to what my directly connected PC gets. But it all depends on the wiring in your house. You want to use the adapters on outlets that have really nothing else plugged into them, and make sure that both outlets that the adapters are on, are both on the same circuit/breaker box.

That's how my last house was set up! But I was paying $4,000 a month for that house and it was just me. I'm in a smaller house now and it turns out that a smaller file size doesn't hiccup at all and the quality is pretty much the same as Netflix. I will bookmark that site still so I can use it later if and when I move. Thanks!!

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Wireless N Router that I bought, but an OLD wireless G adapter. I'm going to pick up a wireless N adapter really soon.

That's how my last house was set up! But I was paying $4,000 a month for that house and it was just me. I'm in a smaller house now and it turns out that a smaller file size doesn't hiccup at all and the quality is pretty much the same as Netflix. I will bookmark that site still so I can use it later if and when I move. Thanks!!

File size is a huge part. The bigger the file size, for the same length movie, will determine how much needs to be buffered at a single moment. Larger size, more to buffer. More to buffer, harder for a slow connection to get it all through, thus the choppiness. Once you get a good fast setup, it will work perfectly.

Also, if you are getting some choppiness, do this in either PSM or USM. In one of the options where you can select on the PSM or USM which folders to share, you can also turn on the ability to see the folder for transcoding options. Then , when on the ps3 and selecting which movie to view, you will see an extra folder where the movie is, that will then have a bunch of different transcoders to choose from, ( Mencoder, TSMUXING, AVI/Sync) and from that list, choose TSMuxing for your encoder. I find that to be the fastest one.

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I had a few issues with PS3 Media Server, lagging video, juddering and network connection errors. Uninstalled and got Universal Media Server, smaller, uses less memory and simply faultless for me so far!

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Wireless N Router that I bought, but an OLD wireless G adapter. I'm going to pick up a wireless N adapter really soon.

Can't say for sure but upgrading to N could help solve your problem and may be easier than other options.

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Can't say for sure but upgrading to N could help solve your problem and may be easier than other options.

Yeah, have to agree. It may not help with the larger file sizes, but really no way to find out until you try.

With that said, I will say I have a pretty decent wireless network in my house, and I definitely had issues streaming files over 3GB in size, so I do think it comes down to the wireless just does not like larger files.

And just a little story. To get a wired connection to my second PS3, I purchased a 100 foot cat 6 cable, got up in the crawl space of my house which was like 115 degrees, drilled some holes in some closets, and got the wired connection to my PS3. It is probably possible to do something similar, but it may not be as easy as that, and that was not a pleasant experience. :laugh:

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And just a little story. To get a wired connection to my second PS3, I purchased a 100 foot cat 6 cable, got up in the crawl space of my house which was like 115 degrees, drilled some holes in some closets, and got the wired connection to my PS3. It is probably possible to do something similar, but it may not be as easy as that, and that was not a pleasant experience. :laugh:

I'm the same way. I much prefer wired over wireless, if possible.

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the PS3 is known to have pretty bad wireless... i have a PS3 in our bedroom w/ our router in another room. I can stream low-quality mp4s, but fast fowarding is a no go. Good luck trying to stream any MKVs.

C-Squarez - you might look at your router's settings and make sure you're getting the best wireless speed. I ran into an issue recently with my Buffalo router.

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