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[AR556]

First, let me say that I'm not a developer. Whether .Net is a good platform for programming is out of my realm of expertise, nor do I care. As someone who services/maintains multiple PCs at work and on the side, .NET infuruates me. Effing large installers to download, time seems to stop as the POS installs itself and once thats done, you get to download/install patch after patch that all take what is IMO, an unreasonable amount of time to actually install. The fun is then multiplied several times over should you have applications that require different versions of .Net. Microsoft either needs to release a single update rollup for supported versions of .NET or package the installer fully updated. I sincerely hope that .NET dies a firey death sooner rather than later.

Sorta related but Microsft also wastes your time with a fresh Windows 7 Install. Rather than offer you SP1 straight away, they want you to download a **** ton of pre SP1 patches and then offer you SP1. Completely unnecessary! I downloaded the SP1 installer, patched a fresh W7 install, and proceeded to install all post SP1 updates without a problem. Office 2010? Same **** there too!

Eff you Microsoft...just eff you!

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[neufuse]

.NET is going no where, if anything it will get bigger over time

[Xilo]

If you were halfway decent at your job, you would have an imaging system setup so you would only have to install updates once.

[+remixedcat]

I have it all slipstreamed including.net.... slipstream em all and it will make your life muuuuuch easier....

[TPreston]

Learn what this is, Its exactly what you need

[z0phi3l]

When installing .net is when you can go get a coffee or even go to lunch, no need to get all wound up over it

[Routerbad]

SCCM does it for me. OSD, patch management, desired configuration, config audits, the works.

[neufuse]

Routerbad, on 03 October 2012 - 23:35, said:

SCCM does it for me. OSD, patch management, desired configuration, config audits, the works.

We went to SCCM for our domain, and gawd was it expensive... over $79,000 just for SCCM and the licenses.. server licenses are $1,500 each... $150 per workstation...

[+Asik]

Still beats Java.

[+chAos972]

Your rant has very little to do with the .NET programming language itself.

[AR556]

Xilo, on 03 October 2012 - 23:29, said:

If you were halfway decent at your job, you would have an imaging system setup so you would only have to install updates once.

Don't be a dick. I work for a non-profit. Money is tight and I'm not permitted to purchase snazzy applications like you get. I do use some free imaging software on the newer PCs being donated to save time. We're still running Server 2003 R2 and most of our PCs are donated = few years old by the time I get them.

chAos972, on 03 October 2012 - 23:46, said:

Your rant has very little to do with the .NET programming language itself.

Yes...you picked up on that I see.

Dr_Asik, on 03 October 2012 - 23:46, said:

Still beats Java.

Unfortunately, you're right, but only from a security standpoint.

[farmeunit]

I've been trying to get a silent install of Net 4.5 for months. I need to go back and try 4.0, which is the one I need, but though I'd go ahead and get the newest. We're looking at moving to SCCM, but I didn't have time to play with it. Using ZENworks as I'm familiar with it. Just can't get this to work correctly.

Will WSUS install 4.5 or just the updates to installed versions?

[+SharpGreen]

chAos972, on 03 October 2012 - 23:46, said:

Your rant has very little to do with the .NET programming language itself.

Considering .NET isn't a programming language..it's a group of languages and related technologies, I don't see how it could.

Also I vote for slipstreaming as well. Massive time saver.

[+nesl247]

neufuse, on 03 October 2012 - 23:41, said:

We went to SCCM for our domain, and gawd was it expensive... over $79,000 just for SCCM and the licenses.. server licenses are $1,500 each... $150 per workstation...

Either I got really lucky, or you got royally screwed. We licensed about 50 copies of Forefront Endpoint Protection 2010 and when they 2012 version came around, we were automatically entitled to the new version. Since they changed Forefront to System Center Endpoint Protection 2012, and integrated It into SCCM, we got a license for SCCM and a SQL Server 2008 Standard license included. We originally paid less than $3000 for 3 years.

[Ambroos]

.NET updates are indeed really annoying and incredibly slow. I'm not talking about an enterprise system here but whenever I've got to fix computers for friends and family the numerous .NET updates always make everything take AGES.