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Posted 08 October 2012 - 13:38
Posted 08 October 2012 - 15:13
a lot of them......
No way this guy is talking out of his ass has everyone forgotten that MMO gaming is only one type of PC game? What about all the 1990s and 2000s stuff it was gold. Theme Hospital, The Sims (1), Rollercoaster Tycoon series, SimCity series, GTA for god’s sake! I’m sorry maybe imp anti-social when it comes to gaming but I don’t want to have to connect with others in every PC game I play sometimes you VS the games code is enough. All the games are fundamentally primarily single player experiences and other than the fact these series (Sims, SimCity, rollercoaster tycoon, GTA) continue to exist their seems a fundamental problem in porting these kinds of experiences to an MMO environment. Not to mention every other game is now a shooter... but this doesn’t change the augment against MMO personally if I was into shooters and im not id want single player to. Im in my early 20s but ill say it already these kids today do not know the joy of playing a game of The Sims all day.
Posted 08 October 2012 - 18:08
It's been explained several times in the thread, in regards to the context of the article.
Posted 08 October 2012 - 18:32
Exactly. What he fails to point out is the lack of bringing up various demographics like who doesn't have Internet access and games, who has ****ty Internet access and games, and who prefers SP and/or MP.
Posted 08 October 2012 - 18:50
Because none of that is relevant to the specifics of the question. The point is that its getting harder to see justifiable returns on huge budget single player titles, and he was in fact lamenting that fact whereas most of the knee-jerk replies here seem to think he was celebrating it.
But go ahead, ignore all that and just keep pretending this guy came out attacking single-player games as unwanted, unpopular releases and using astoundingly mature critiques such as "This no talent a$$ clown doesn't have a clue." because as we all know you know SO MUCH more about the gaming industry than this guy. Heck I bet you had to budget out 5 or 6 AAA game titles just this morning.
Posted 08 October 2012 - 18:57
Posted 08 October 2012 - 19:13
Posted 08 October 2012 - 20:45
Note: no-one is saying that SP games cost more than MMOs or MP. I don't entirely understand why you would suggest SP would be equal in cost to the others though, MMOs certainly cost more, and multiplayer is often the second half to a single player game (Halo, CoD, etc.) and requires longer-term investment.
And the point repeatedly made, is that there's ust as big, if not bigger risk in triple A Multuiplayer titles, especially MMO's.
in the last few years, I don't recall any studios going under because their triple A SP game was crap. but how many MMO's and MP games crashed and burned and brought their studio with them.
it's not an issue with SP or MP, it's an issue with Triple A, and the fact that they cost a ******** to develop today, with advanced code, artwork that includes movie studio quality 3D models, that have to be redone in both low res and high res(game quality) models, for normal maps to be applied to, high quality music and sound effects.
Triple A games today cost more than movies to make, and they need to succeed to they kill the studio, unless you're owned by EA or it's like. even then your studio is likely to go the way of the Dodo. And on top of that, MP games unlike what he claims, are more risky than SP.
Posted 08 October 2012 - 22:10
The overall issue is the return on whatever investment was made.
Posted 09 October 2012 - 05:00
Batman: Arkham City
Deus Ex: Human Revolution - has multiplayer
Max Payne 3
Civilization V - has multiplayer
The Witcher 2
X-COM: Enemy Unknown
Metro: Last Light
Watchdogs - has multiplayer / co-op
GTA V - has multiplayer
Assassin's Creed 3 - has multiplayer
Dead Space 3 - may suck, DS2 has multiplayer
Crysis 3 - has multiplayer
Aliens: Colonial Marines - has multiplayer
Mass Effect 3 - has multiplayer
Portal 2 - has multiplayer / co-op
Total War: Shogun 2
Far Cry 3 - has multiplayer
Dragon Age III - may suck
I don't need to say anything more.
Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:10
Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:18
Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:28
Really? Ok Blizz, so why are most of your players complaining when you try to force them to play with others?. Ok Blizz, so why is it that a lot of people buy your expansions and play through the quests (alone) and then leave because the end-game is about Social interaction?.
How about you shut your pie hole and move to Antarctica. IMO Multiplayer is DEAD.
Posted 09 October 2012 - 12:20