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#1 AngelGraves13

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 00:05

So, I bought Technet and have been using Windows 8 from a clean install for about a month now.

All of a sudden, I wasn't able to update or install some Apps.
I found a solution to the problem by using...

net stop wuauserv
rename c:\windows\SoftwareDistribution softwaredistribution.old
net start wuauserv


Now, it seems there is another problem. I'm looking at the Games App and it says "sorry this app can't be installed because your system doesn't meet the system requirements." It is installed though, and aren't the system requirements simply Windows 8? Luckily I had this in my "purchased apps" so I was able to install it from there without issue.

I'm beginning to think that Windows 8 is going to be a huge disaster when it comes to the App Store. It randomly stops working and tells you that you can't install apps. WTF was Microsoft thinking?

Also...I have 2 Updates to be installed...but where?

P.S. - The MAPS App is gone from the Store.


#2 Shane Nokes

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 00:07

Sounds like you're having some funky issues with screwed up system files or something.

What are the specs on the machine, and have you tried verifying that the checksums match up for the install media vs the information presented on TechNet?

#3 Hum

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 00:07

^ A Windows Update ? They normally install themselves.

#4 OP AngelGraves13

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 00:13

^ A Windows Update ? They normally install themselves.


No, when I click on the Updates in the App Store the list comes up empty. It seems to be a common issue.

Sounds like you're having some funky issues with screwed up system files or something.

What are the specs on the machine, and have you tried verifying that the checksums match up for the install media vs the information presented on TechNet?


I'm not the only one having this exact issue.

Microsoft ****ed up.

#5 Shane Nokes

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 00:16

Got it. For some crazy reason I thought you might want some troubleshooting help...nope not at all.

Another whining without any intent to actually troubleshoot or try to learn anything here folks...nothing to see.

#6 OP AngelGraves13

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 00:27

Got it. For some crazy reason I thought you might want some troubleshooting help...nope not at all.

Another whining without any intent to actually troubleshoot or try to learn anything here folks...nothing to see.


WTF is there to troubleshoot? My initial problem was Apps wouldn't update or install. I found the solution in these forums and posted it in my first post. That fixed most of my problems.

I'm not whining. I'm stating a simple ****ing fact. The Windows 8 App Store is fundamentally broken.

P.S. My hashes are fine compared to Technet. The problem lies in a broken update system for the App Store. Microsoft needs to address this issue with a patch or it is going to be in a world of pain. There is no reason an App Store should suddenly stop working or refuse to update/install Apps.

Oh well...I guess my dad knows best. He never switches to a new Windows until a Service Pack is available.

At least everything else is working right, except for my sound. Creative really needs to put out some new drivers so I won't have to keep installing them again after every restart.

#7 Shane Nokes

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 00:29

I was going to post a long reply to you on this, but I'm going to let it go. Keep believing whatever it is you want to believe. :punk:

#8 OP AngelGraves13

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 00:31

Restarting seemed to install 4 Windows updates. No my App Store seems to be fine again.

Microsoft has a long way to go before it can compete with Apple's App Store. It's getting there though. Maybe they'll get it right in Windows 9.

#9 OP AngelGraves13

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 00:39

I was going to post a long reply to you on this, but I'm going to let it go. Keep believing whatever it is you want to believe. :punk:


A long reply? Don't waste your time or mine. I have nothing against you. In fact, I think you're probably an all around good guy.

In any case, don't get worked up about me feeling that Windows 8 is somewhat incomplete and broken. I'm not the first one with this issue and I sure as hell won't be the last. I just don't get why I had to troubleshoot in the first place. This is the new Windows. This is Microsoft's baby. There's things about it I love and things about it that make me scratch my head. Valve Software seems to hate it, even though I can't find anything wrong with it besides some odd design choices.

Windows 8 will either be Microsoft's rebirth or its death. It's as simple as that. I'm hoping it will be its rebirth, but it might need a C-section on the way out.

#10 Shane Nokes

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 00:45

A long reply? Don't waste your time or mine. I have nothing against you. In fact, I think you're probably an all around good guy.

In any case, don't get worked up about me feeling that Windows 8 is somewhat incomplete and broken. I'm not the first one with this issue and I sure as hell won't be the last. I just don't get why I had to troubleshoot in the first place. This is the new Windows. This is Microsoft's baby. There's things about it I love and things about it that make me scratch my head. Valve Software seems to hate it, even though I can't find anything wrong with it besides some odd design choices.

Windows 8 will either be Microsoft's rebirth or its death. It's as simple as that. I'm hoping it will be its rebirth, but it might need a C-section on the way out.


Because sometimes things can interact with the system (such as drivers or various other pieces of software that require admin rights) in unexpected ways. So sometimes troubleshooting (especially on a brand new OS) can help you find a solution that doesn't require much work, or that can be a permanent fix instead of a stop-gap.

For instance I have a really annoying persistent issue with Flash in Windows 8. It affects not only IE10 (both the Metro and Desktop version), but also affects Firefox even though Firefox is running a completely different independent version of Flash. This doesn't happen on Win7 on the same machine, nor does it occur in Windows 7 on my laptop. My next step is to test Win8 on that laptop to see if it occurs there as well. If it doesn't I'm going to start looking at hardware.

I'm thinking it might be something to do with my graphics card (Radeon HD3850) that isn't being supported by the manufacturer for Windows 8. Sure there are inbox drivers, and the old WIn7 drivers are working, but they are dropping support for this card entirely anyways.

Things like that can crop up that you wouldn't expect...no matter how new or old an OS is.

See longer post than I wanted to make about it. :p

#11 OP AngelGraves13

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 03:59

My specs...

Windows 8 Professional x64 / Cooler Master HAF X / Antec High Current Pro 1200W Power Supply / ASUS P6T Deluxe / Intel Core i7 940 / 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz XMP / eVGA GeForce 465 GTX SSC / Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD / Bigfoot Networks Killer NIC 2100 / Western Digital RE2 500 GB RAID 0 / Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Gaming Keyboard / Razer Mamba Gaming Mouse / Razer IronClad Gaming Mat / Razer Mako 2.1 THX Speakers / Razer Carcharias Gaming Headset / Samsung SyncMaster 2233RZ / NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses / Pioneer BDR-206 Blu-ray Disc Rewriter

It was working fine when I first installed Windows, but now the App Store is acting weird. Maybe they're updating it on their end.

The (2) Updates for Apps returned, though there are no updates to install.

#12 DKAngel

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 04:53

the fact that it isnt available to everyone yet means they have to time to test and tweak, now all the problems u have i dont have. my app store works it updates fine and my machine is much lower spec than yours, something easily could have gone wrong maybe they pulled the app from the app store or pulled the update and your machine haddnt registered or whatever who knows, but windows 8 is far from fundamentally broken

#13 Shane Nokes

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 05:16

Indeed. There's still tweaking to do before GA.

#14 0nyX

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 05:21

The (2) Updates for Apps returned, though there are no updates to install.

I had the same problem yesterday,but after a restart the 2 updates showed up on Windows Store.
In my case it was Finance and Sports but that depends of course on which updates you have installed.

You can also try checking manually for the app updates from within the Store by going to Settings-App updates.

#15 francescob

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 05:24

Win8 regarding testing is unfortunately the 2012 Vista, I've found bugs even while running the setup! Poor translations, strings that disappear, the store that randomly decides to show updates that don't exist and the Metro UI becoming extremely unreliable when you don't shut down the machine for days. The rest of the OS is fine but the Metro part seems like a beta at best, I hope the applications updates will improve the situation over time. Usually a reboot fixes the issues though, I've never had to mess with the windows update catalogs yet.

If you want to have fun open the setup, chose install and when it asks for the product key click on the on-screen keyboard and then close it, it will never re-open again, a thing that even the dumbest tester wouldn't have missed.