Windows 8 Start Screen is horrible

[seta-san]

It's really a poor redesign of apple's old 'At Ease' environment, except unlike 'At Ease' it's overly complicated and has a horrible workflow often times taking many more click to get anything. Microsoft can't really be serious about keeping this on windows 9 can they? They had to have put it on windows 8 to promote windows RT development for a couple years while they catch up with apple, right? Everything about this is just wrong. I tried to like it, I really did, it's just horrible. It belongs on a tablet and no where else. How can any of you defend having two parallel environments where the new one is far inferior to the old one?

[Noir Angel]

Something wrong with Windows 8? Na, it's all your fault. It's a change made by Microsoft, awesome by default...

:p

[articuno1au]

ITT: More troll baiting.

There isn't even anything of substance in this thread. All you are doing is encouraging stupidity.

[BoDEAN]

Another one of "THESE" topics? Yawn...

[Scorbing]

Something wrong with Windows 8? Na, it's all your fault. It's a change made by Microsoft, awesome by default...

:p

Awesome? Are you kidding or blind? Those tiles are the ugliest thing to come out of Richmond since Windows 3.11. No way to change the way they look. No way to change the background to something of your own unless you buy a 3rd party application. Seta-san is right. The design is complete sh...t. Apple is going to have a blast on their next OSX show with this.

Like it or not, that new Windows UI is horrible indeed If it wasn't was Start8 I would have gone back to Windows 7 already. You say is awesome. Well, it won't be after a few weeks of looking at the same thing, not being able to change it or do anything with it. It simply sucks. Sorry, but it does.

I have always said it and I will once more: The new Windows UI is great for a tablet, not for a desktop.

[seta-san]

ITT: More troll baiting.

There isn't even anything of substance in this thread. All you are doing is encouraging stupidity.

fine, tell me how is the start screen superior? In which way? How does taking the whole screen help you? Why does using it take several more clicks than the old start menu? It's poor design; poor work flow, not designed to making the desktop experience better but instead to promote a tablet market that Microsoft is far behind the '8 ball' on.

[Scorbing]

fine, tell me how is the start screen superior? In which way? How does taking the whole screen help you? Why does using it take several more clicks than the old start menu? It's poor design; poor work flow, not designed to making the desktop experience better but instead to promote a tablet market that Microsoft is far behind the '8 ball' on.

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[articuno1au]

fine, tell me how is the start screen superior? In which way? How does taking the whole screen help you? Why does using it take several more clicks than the old start menu? It's poor design; poor work flow, not designed to making the desktop experience better but instead to promote a tablet market that Microsoft is far behind the '8 ball' on.

I wasn't suggesting it was better in any way.

I am simply saying that your thread simply rehashes the content of a plethora of other threads that do it better and with substantial content.

It's your opinion, you are entitled to it regardless of what it is. I am just sick of the baseless content-free topics.

[Noir Angel]

Awesome? Are you kidding or blind? Those tiles are the ugliest thing to come out of Richmond since Windows 3.11. No way to change the way they look. No way to change the background to something of your own unless you buy a 3rd party application. Seta-san is right. The design is complete sh...t. Apple is going to have a blast on their next OSX show with this.

Like it or not, that new Windows UI is horrible indeed If it wasn't was Start8 I would have gone back to Windows 7 already. You say is awesome. Well, it won't be after a few weeks of looking at the same thing, not being able to change it or do anything with it. It simply sucks. Sorry, but it does.

I have always said it and I will once more: The new Windows UI is great for a tablet, not for a desktop.

You missed the heavy touch of sarcasm in my post, I actually agree with you :p

[theyarecomingforyou]

Conservative minds have trouble accepting change.

[Colin McGregor]

It's really a poor redesign of apple's old 'At Ease' environment, except unlike 'At Ease' it's overly complicated and has a horrible workflow often times taking many more click to get anything. Microsoft can't really be serious about keeping this on windows 9 can they? They had to have put it on windows 8 to promote windows RT development for a couple years while they catch up with apple, right? Everything about this is just wrong. I tried to like it, I really did, it's just horrible. It belongs on a tablet and no where else. How can any of you defend having two parallel environments where the new one is far inferior to the old one?

complicated?? My grandma uses Win8 with ease so if its complicated to you then pack it up sell it on ebay and move on.

[123456789A]

Conservative minds have trouble accepting change.

But even Mitt Romney figured out how to use Windows 8.

[seta-san]

Conservative minds have trouble accepting change.

no. This has nothing to do with that. I went into this with an open mind. I really thought this would be at worst, different and unrefined. What it is, is just plain ****. mtro actually interferer's with my desktop apps sometimes. I'll be playing WoW and suddenly something in metro will want do something and i'll no longer be able to control my character. I can take different. D

for example, i really enjoyed playing around with the 3DNA desktop replacement app for win98

http://www.theeastsoft.com/en/?p=80

that was different

windows 8 is just wrong. Wrong workflow, wrong design for desktop. I wish Microsoft the best on WinRT but this is inexcusable.

complicated?? My grandma uses Win8 with ease so if its complicated to you then pack it up sell it on ebay and move on.

This can't rest. If the people who are ****ed off just let it go then Microsoft will continue to package this **** and some day it'll be unavoidable.

[theyarecomingforyou]

But even Mitt Romney figured out how to use Windows 8.

Yeah, but he's a liberal in disguise.

[Xoligy]

If you dont like the metro theme like myself just install Start8. I dont see what the complaint is really about tbh as anything you dont like there is always a way to change it via 3rd party apps. "But we shouldnt need to buy or even get 3rd party apps!" Everyone is different and everyone likes different things, you just can not please everyone with one design its a fact. Anyway im going to watch some tv, this post is pointless.

[Colin McGregor]

This can't rest. If the people who are ****ed off just let it go then Microsoft will continue to package this **** and some day it'll be unavoidable.

Good. I hope they never bring back the start button. Its useless and slow. Everything is so much easier with start screen and I have access to everything 10x faster. I hope they don't go back to the old slow way just to please some crybabies that are either unwilling or incapable of learning.

[fix-this!]

YES i bought w8. if it werent for start8, bypassing modern and the cheap $40 upgrade fee i would of passed on this operating system. the only plus ive seen soo far is its faster than w7. also flash sucks on w8.

[Scorbing]

If you dont like the metro theme like myself just install Start8. I dont see what the complaint is really about tbh as anything you dont like there is always a way to change it via 3rd party apps. "But we shouldnt need to buy or even get 3rd party apps!" Everyone is different and everyone likes different things, you just can not please everyone with one design its a fact. Anyway im going to watch some tv, this post is pointless.

Yeah but see, that's exactly the point my friend. Why should we have to spend $$$ to buy a 3rd party application to get the original Start Menu back, or be able to change the background wallpaper on that new, stupid, ugly interface, when Microsoft could have very easily added those options to the OS by default instead of forcing the user to get a 3rd party alternative because they felt those things were not needed?

That is typical Apple attitude if you ask me. "We are selling you an OS but you must use it like we give it to you. You have no right to change it in any way, shape or form."

Bullsh....t

[seta-san]

If you dont like the metro theme like myself just install Start8. I dont see what the complaint is really about tbh as anything you dont like there is always a way to change it via 3rd party apps. "But we shouldnt need to buy or even get 3rd party apps!" Everyone is different and everyone likes different things, you just can not please everyone with one design its a fact. Anyway im going to watch some tv, this post is pointless.

that's funny because I'm pretty sure that NO ONE had a complaint about windows 7 except for completely Linux or mac fan boy reasons. I'm not a mac or Linux person. I'm a windows person and I enjoyed Windows ME more than this.

Yeah but see, that's exactly the point my friend. Why should we have to spend $$$ to buy a 3rd party application to get the original Start Menu back, or be able to change the background wallpaper on that new, stupid, ugly interface, when Microsoft could have very easily added those options to the OS by default instead of forcing the user to get a 3rd party alternative because they felt those things were not needed?

That is typical Apple attitude if you ask me. "We are selling you an OS but you must use it like we give it to you. You have no right to change it in any way, shape or form."

Bullsh....t

but that's fine on a Mac because the Mac actually has good design.

[Scorbing]

Good. I hope they never bring back the start button. Its useless and slow. Everything is so much easier with start screen and I have access to everything 10x faster. I hope they don't go back to the old slow way just to please some crybabies that are either unwilling or incapable of learning.

I have been VERY tempted to recall my Windows 7 Acronis image back. I swear, if I get one more Explorer error crash on this new Windows, it will be gone from my PC so fast it won't be funny. I never had a single issue on my Windows 7...None....And yes, I have the latest and greatest up-to-date drivers, for those wondering.

[siah1214]

Welcome to 6 months ago, your time for ****ing and moaning was then. Thanks for rehashing what the small group of haters and whiners has been bitching about since CP came out.

Let me sum up the conversation for you.

Start screen is great, and it's not going away, learn to love it. Start screen sucks and it's the end of Microsoft. It will destroy computing as you know it. If you don't like it, use Start8/classic shell/etc. etc. Rage rage rage. Love love love. Hate hate hate. Flame flame flame.

Repeat ad nauseum til Windows 9 comes out.

Now can we please stop with these stupid threads?

[Asrokhel]

My grandma uses Win8 with ease

Prove it!

[theyarecomingforyou]

Even my three-legged dog can use Windows 8 with ease. Apparently you can teach an old dog new tricks.

[Max Norris]

that's funny because I'm pretty sure that NO ONE had a complaint about windows 7 except for completely Linux or mac fan boy reasons.

Erm there's a fair number of people who are of the "you can pry XP out of my cold, dead hands" mindset because they feel 7 is too dumbed down, missing features, etc. Even the start menu. (No, I'm not one of them.)

but that's fine on a Mac because the Mac actually has good design.

That's just personal preference. I have a Hackintosh that I use on occasion, definitely not a fan of the OSX interface/design.

At the end of the day, you just can't please everyone. No matter what you do, somebody's going to bitch about the changes regardless of how trivial it was or on what operating system it is. Welcome to reality.

Now can we please stop with these stupid threads?

Heh I wish. Same recycled rants over and over, nothing new except the topic number.

[seta-san]

Welcome to 6 months ago, your time for ****ing and moaning was then. Thanks for rehashing what the small group of haters and whiners has been bitching about since CP came out.

Let me sum up the conversation for you.

Start screen is great, and it's not going away, learn to love it. Start screen sucks and it's the end of Microsoft. It will destroy computing as you know it. If you don't like it, use Start8/classic shell/etc. etc. Rage rage rage. Love love love. Hate hate hate. Flame flame flame.

Repeat ad nauseum til Windows 9 comes out.

Now can we please stop with these stupid threads?

yeah. i never tried the CP. In the threads where people complained before i thought they were simply complaining about beta software or they were the type that refused to try to adapt. I didn't know that this was actually fundamentally ****ed out of the box. I didn't think it would actually be bad or cause me aggravation.