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[Athernar]

nekrosoft13, on 13 November 2012 - 17:50, said:

bring back the start menu in windows 9!!

I agree the start screen is a desktop abomination, but honestly I don't particularly care about the start menu.

As far as I'm concerned they can replace it with whatever, just so long as it's not full-screen and doesn't try to force-feed me a UI I have no use for.

[Scorbing]

nekrosoft13, on 13 November 2012 - 17:50, said:

MS biggest mistake with windows 8 is getting rid of start menu, if they wanted the useless start screen they could easily have kept both. Desktop should not be treated as a app, there should be easy way to disable "hot corners" and "handle on top" when in desktop mode. start screen should not "slap" you in face each time start the PC, there is no reason for it not to boot straight into desktop on your DESKTOP PC.

apps like startisback, start8 and numerous other apps that bring back the good old start menu are proof enough that a lot of people don't like the changes made, desktop and laptop pcs should not run/feel like tablets.

Desktop-like envirolment failed on mobile device (example windows mobile 6.x) who is the idiot at MS that thought that tablet interface will work on desktop.

bring back the start menu in windows 9!!

There are a million of these threads here on Neowin. We don't need another one.

[Calum]

Javik, on 13 November 2012 - 17:55, said:

We should acknowledge it on what basis? because you say so. Forgive my bluntness but did someone die and make you the sole arbiter of deciding other people's usability factors?

Tiles on the Start screen can be clicked by anyone who has a mouse and working hands. Therefore, it has the same use, in terms of opening programs, that the Start Menu had. Therefore, it cannot reasonably be deemed useless.

I'm not sure whether you missed my point or not.

[Javik]

Calum, on 13 November 2012 - 18:01, said:

Tiles on the Start screen can be clicked by anyone who has a mouse and working hands. Therefore, it has the same use, in terms of opening programs, that the Start Menu had. Therefore, it cannot reasonably be deemed useless.

I'm not sure whether you missed my point or not.

Yes, it can be used to launch applications. That doesn't mean it's a change for the better however.

Dot Matrix, on 13 November 2012 - 18:00, said:

I'll just leave this here....

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Pretty much only relevant to people that own a tablet. Which I do not, nor do I ever intend to buy a Windows 8 tablet.

[LaP]

Why did you bother ?

it's like going to a Red Sox fan site and trying to convince them the Yankees are awesome.

[Shane Nokes]

Javik, on 13 November 2012 - 18:03, said:

Yes, it can be used to launch applications. That doesn't mean it's a change for the better however.

That wasn't the point being made. The point being made is that it has a use, thus is useful.

To claim that it's not useful is to deny reality itself...which is what Calum was trying to say...that someone cannot be taken seriously if they espouse the view that something isn't useful just because they don't like the way that it can be used.

[Calum]

Javik, on 13 November 2012 - 18:03, said:

Yes, it can be used to launch applications. That doesn't mean it's a change for the better however.
[. . .]

That wasn't my point I completely understand that some people prefer the Start Menu, especially for the reason that it doesn't fully cover their screen. I just wanted to point out to him that his credibility is in jeopardy for stating that the Start screen is "useless," as that denies reality.

EDIT: Shane Nokes is explaining my point better than I am

[Scorbing]

You don't like Windows 8, then go back to Windows 7 like I did. Problems and frustrations over.

[n_K]

Dot Matrix, on 13 November 2012 - 18:00, said:

I'll just leave this here....

Start Graphic.PNG

Start menu doesn't work with 'remote input' i.e. keyboard? What a crock of ****, windows 95 onwards works FINE with a keyboard, you don't even need a mouse.
I've not tried the start screen since removing W8 but how well does that work with a keyboard? '****' is all I can think of really.
Start menu not customisable? I can add/remove items/folders and functions just as you can on the start screen, it's got the same customisation. Oh no actually that's a lie, I can switch between classic and W7 start menu in W7 which ironically makes the start menu MORE customisable than the start screen!
Expandability? I can't see any relevance.
Yeah start menu isn't touch friendly I'll agree, it's an utter pain in the arse trying to use it via RDP on an ipod touch.

[Dot Matrix]

Calum, on 13 November 2012 - 18:01, said:

Tiles on the Start screen can be clicked by anyone who has a mouse and working hands. Therefore, it has the same use, in terms of opening programs, that the Start Menu had. Therefore, it cannot reasonably be deemed useless.

I'm not sure whether you missed my point or not.

But I should have to move the mouse. It's not what it was designed for.


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[GreyWolf]

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