Processor help (AMD only)

[The Evil Overlord]

Hey again Neowin,

Please read through before answering.

I'm a little confused, I'm building a new PC and have a question...

I was thinking of buying the amd bulldozer, there's one I've found on ebay quite cheap, 8 core...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-FX-4130-Quad-Core-X4-CPU-3-8GHz-AM3-Bulldozer-Black-Edition-/200848092343?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item2ec37aacb7

I would like to make it clear, I consider myself a Novice at this, (I know HOW to build em, but that's about it)

This is where I found myself confused, out of my depth etc... I read somewhere that this chip isn't as good as older amd chips, for example..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Phenom-II-Black-Edition-X6-Processor-1100T-Heatsink-/110976886121?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item19d6bce569 (please note, links are purely for reference)

Can someone who knows what they are talking about spare some time to explain in simplified english whether the bulldozer or the phenom is the better processor?

I get lost in technical jargon, benchmarks are lost on me also, but if you understand them, could you spare a few minutes to explain which would be the better purchase?

(It's going into an asus crosshair v mobo, this is a personal preference and already purchased)

EDIT..

Thank you to the moderator who deleted my repost, I don't know what happened there

Edited November 17, 2012 by Dushmany

[enc_MAYhem]

your better off betting the bulldozer range.. those little benchmark differences you see factor in many things like different hardware on the earlier processor and different on the bulldozer ones! but i have noticed while i was planning to build my own pc that bulldozers were way better. instead i still did end up buying the i7 2600k just because of that little more perofrmance it promises. but now that i have it and compare to wut the amd ones offered i feel like i kinda wasted my money. there almost the same when it comes to gaming or other things.

go for the bulldozer ones, thats what i would recommend.

[+LogicalApex MVC]

I don't keep up with AMD, but if memory serves me this time around... The bulldozer is best run on Windows 8 due to the way Windows schedules threads not being optimized for that processor until the new scheduler added in Win8.

It will obviously work for Windows 7, but it would be slower than if run on 8.

[Detection]

Hey again Neowin,

Please read through before answering.

I'm a little confused, I'm building a new PC and have a question...

I was thinking of buying the amd bulldozer, there's one I've found on ebay quite cheap, 8 core...

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2ec37aacb7

I would like to make it clear, I consider myself a Novice at this, (I know HOW to build em, but that's about it)

This is where I found myself confused, out of my depth etc... I read somewhere that this chip isn't as good as older amd chips, for example..

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item19d6bce569 (please note, links are purely for reference)

Can someone who knows what they are talking about spare some time to explain in simplified english whether the bulldozer or the phenom is the better processor?

I get lost in technical jargon, benchmarks are lost on me also, but if you understand them, could you spare a few minutes to explain which would be the better purchase?

(It's going into an asus crosshair v mobo, this is a personal preference and already purchased)

EDIT..

Thank you to the moderator who deleted my repost, I don't know what happened there

I have the PII 965 BE

Reason I still have this? Because it still beats AMDs latest CPU range in certain benchmarks (bulldozer were sh**e)

Hold off, piledriver / steamroller, / I bought a CHVF board hoping to continue upgrading from DDR2 and AM2 to DDR3 to AM3+, so far I have managed to upgrade my RAM and Board, I wish the ?????? was in my pocket

My advice, if you have an AM3+ board, wait, see what Piledriver/ Steamroller offer over Phenom II's - So far, there is no reason to upgrade imo

[Nothing Here]

I have the Phenom II 970 BE. I have had no issues. Also I agree with Detection. Wait and see.

[The Evil Overlord]

Ok I don't mind waiting a little longer to see what those processors that were mentioned can do, but my current system is an old athlon dual core and it is showing signs of it's age.

The bulldozer impressed me mostly because of how cheap it was to buy, but if it's false economy then I'll wait.

Something I failed to mention in my OP was that I'll be staying with Win7 and not getting Win8, so my thanks go to both of you for taking the time to help me.

(Nothing against win8, I just am not interested for now)

[neoadorable]

definitely get the FX CPU, I used a Phenom II X4 Black Edition for like two months before switching to Intel 22nm Core i5. It was a good CPU, but noisy as hell. The FX series is much quieter and more efficient. I'd take and Athlon II X4 over a Phenom II.