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#1 Muzzy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 14:00

Hi guys

was wondering if anyone could help me.

am trying to install Norton Internet Security 2007 on my windows 8 Pro x64
. Previously it worked on my windows 7 x64 ultimate just by using compatibility mode as vista now I am getting the following message

Setup cannot continue because there was a problem authenticating your Microsoft Windows Installer

when I checked the log file in the %temp% directory this is what I got.

2012-11-20-00-36-43-664 : 0x05C0 : Product reboot state = 0
2012-11-20-00-36-43-664 : 0x05C0 : System reboot state = 0
2012-11-20-00-36-43-664 : 0x05C0 : CRebootHandler::LoadRegistry - failed to open SymSetup key
2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : CCmdLineOptions::ProcessCmdLine: processing ""
2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : CCmdLineOptions::ProcessDWORDOption not found!: 0
2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : CCmdLineOptions::ProcessDWORDOption not found!: 1
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2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : CCmdLineOptions::ProcessStringOption not found!: 3
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2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : CCmdLineOptions::ProcessCmdLine: final cmd line "", 0 items processed
2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : CCmdLineOptions::Find: "ccLogLevel" is not a valid option
2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : Product reboot state = 0
2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : System reboot state = 0
2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : CRebootHandler::LoadRegistry - failed to open SymSetup key
2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : Product reboot state = 0
2012-11-20-00-36-43-679 : 0x05C0 : System reboot state = 0
2012-11-20-00-36-43-726 : 0x05C0 : ccVerifyTrust::CVerifyFile::VerifyTrust(603) : WinVerifyTrust() call on catalog 'C:\Windows\system32\CatRoot\{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}\Microsoft-Windows-SKU-Foundation-Package-admin~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.2.9200.16384.cat' returned 0x80096010 (last error = 0x80096010)
2012-11-20-00-36-43-726 : 0x05C0 : ccVerifyTrust::CVerifyFile::VerifyTrust(618) : No catalogs containing the hash for file 'C:\Windows\system32\msiexec.exe' passed WinVerifyTrust().
2012-11-20-00-36-43-726 : 0x05C0 : ccVerifyTrust::CVerifyFile::Verify(257) : VerifyTrust() != eNoError
2012-11-20-00-36-43-726 : 0x05C0 : ccVerifyTrust::CVerifyTrustImpl::VerifyFileT(459) : CVerifyFile::Verify() != eNoError, "C:\Windows\system32\msiexec.exe", 3
2012-11-20-00-36-45-773 : 0x05C0 : ccVerifyTrust::CVerifyFile::VerifyTrust(603) : WinVerifyTrust() call on catalog 'C:\Windows\system32\CatRoot\{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}\Microsoft-Windows-SKU-Foundation-Package-admin~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.2.9200.16384.cat' returned 0x80096010 (last error = 0x80096010)
2012-11-20-00-36-45-773 : 0x05C0 : ccVerifyTrust::CVerifyFile::VerifyTrust(618) : No catalogs containing the hash for file 'C:\Windows\system32\msiexec.exe' passed WinVerifyTrust().
2012-11-20-00-36-45-773 : 0x05C0 : ccVerifyTrust::CVerifyFile::Verify(257) : VerifyTrust() != eNoError
2012-11-20-00-36-45-773 : 0x05C0 : ccVerifyTrust::CVerifyTrustImpl::VerifyFileT(459) : CVerifyFile::Verify() != eNoError, "C:\Windows\system32\msiexec.exe", 3
2012-11-20-00-36-45-773 : 0x05C0 : CLaunchConditions::CheckForSignedMSI(390) : VerifyFile on MSI exec failed

I have tried opening the msi files with orca but I cannot for the life of me work out with line I have to disable or drop.
I also thought about trying a custom action to bypass checks but do not know which command to use.


any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.


thx in advance


#2 Ryoken

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 14:06

Well for starters, I would stol using Norton, even more so an old version..

Just install Microsoft Security Essentals, less of a resource hog, and better, and free.

#3 +unabatedshagie

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 14:22

AFAIK you don't really need an anti-virus in Windows 8 as it has Microsoft Security Essentials built in.

#4 OP Muzzy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 15:04

yeah thx guys but because I have started doing this I would really like to work it out just for my peace of mind to know that I have at least been able to do it.
any advice in how to accomplish this please ?
What I would really like to learn is where the prerequisite check is so I can disable it in orca

#5 singularity87

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 15:36

Norton Internet Security 2007 isn't certified for or designed to run on Windows 8. There is no reason to expect it to work properly - it's not designed to. So trying to force install it won't really be a useful thing to have worked out how to do - it's just a way to introduce potential complications to a healthy system.

#6 articuno1au

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 15:40

What singularity said.

Not all updates to AV suites are just to milk money out of you >.<

You'll need to buy a more recent version of the software as there have been ENORMOUS architectural changes in Windows that your AV needs to be aware of.

#7 OP Muzzy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 15:50

ok I understand that but I would really like to try it . from the log I posted can anyone please tell me on how I can do this.

#8 HawkMan

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 15:53

Well for starters, I would stol using Norton, even more so an old version..

Just install Microsoft Security Essentals, less of a resource hog, and better, and free.


Well any norton 2009 version and never uses at lest as little resources and MSE, most likely less and provides better and more compete protection.

MSE is great, but norton is better, though if I didn't get norton free once or twice a year, I'd just use MSE.

Norton Internet Security 2007 isn't certified for or designed to run on Windows 8. There is no reason to expect it to work properly - it's not designed to. So trying to force install it won't really be a useful thing to have worked out how to do - it's just a way to introduce potential complications to a healthy system.



And this, just run a new up to date norton, depending on your license you might be able to download the trial for the latest norton and use your existing license.

#9 articuno1au

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 16:01

Sorry, I won't help you brick your system.

Easiest way to bypass it, update your AV :D After all, yours is only 6 years old now. No viruses could get past it >.>

#10 Detection

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 16:05

No idea how to force install other than possibly using the -f switch in Run ? (Not even sure if that is the correct command)

But as most have already suggested, MSE or any other free AV such as Avast would protect you a whole lot better than an ancient Norton, asking for trouble installing that on any machine/OS these days

#11 +Nik L

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 16:21

am trying to install Norton Internet Security 2007 on my windows 8 Pro x64


Right... Andrea Borman!

#12 OP Muzzy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 16:48

Sorry, I won't help you brick your system.

Easiest way to bypass it, update your AV :D After all, yours is only 6 years old now. No viruses could get past it >.>


So you wont help me or you don't know. I just wish to learn how to do it is that to much to ask ? if my sustem becomes unstable I will just reformat and place a new av suite on it no probs I just want to learn how to do this

#13 -Deleted-

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 16:54

Not sure why you would even want to learn how to....It would be useless to even understand or have the slightest chance of doing so. Only thing possible from this is a corrupted windows 8 install, as changing core files or manipulating windows into thinking something different will 99.999999999% shaft the system.

Why are you running windows 8 yet running an old AV? If you like the old way why not stay with XP/Vista or 7? -.-

#14 OP Muzzy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 17:31

I put on it on my second system that I just use to experiment with but my main system is untouched everything on it is good and untampered with.
this system however I just use to muck around on and practice and experiment with software and l try to learn new things
So can u guys help me please.
This is more for knowledge on navigating and playing with orca nothing else

#15 Knightwolf20024

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 17:34

as long as you have a up to date subscription you can go to http://updatecenter.norton.com/ , click choose my product manually and update.



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