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[Technique]

Is there a decent app that does this? I've a funny feeling it'll break some silly law, but figured i'd ask anyway. I saw some app, but it required you to give the caller some sort of ID number. This is no good. Am looking for something you can set to record before you call, or something that auto-kicks in when you take a call. Had this feature on an old Nokia 6230i i think it was & it was handy at times.

[Draconian Guppy]

ownspy.com

[astrokat]

That website is vague as hell. How the heck does it work and how does apple allow it?

[Technique]

Not only that, it's a pay-for service.

Everyone loves a FREE app. Any free apps doing this anyone?

[Draconian Guppy]

astrokat, on 22 November 2012 - 06:55, said:

That website is vague as hell. How the heck does it work and how does apple allow it?

Only Jail Broken devices... It creates tracks when you decide to "intercept" a call..

Technique, on 22 November 2012 - 18:53, said:

Not only that, it's a pay-for service.

Everyone loves a FREE app. Any free apps doing this anyone?

You did see it has a FREE 24 hour trial?

[Glassed Silver]

Draconian Guppy, on 22 November 2012 - 20:57, said:

Only Jail Broken devices... It creates tracks when you decide to "intercept" a call..




You did see it has a FREE 24 hour trial?

Come on, 24h really?

He probably wants to use this a little longer than that and again: favors a free solution.
Can't blame him.

Glassed Silver:mac

[Technique]

Glassed Silver, on 22 November 2012 - 21:43, said:

Come on, 24h really?

He probably wants to use this a little longer than that and again: favors a free solution.
Can't blame him.

Glassed Silver:mac

Indeed.

If what i've been told is to be believed, then US laws have basically spoiled this for anyone outside the US, as Apple wont ok these types of apps, despite this not being illegal in some other countries.

[Shadrack]

These aren't illegal everywhere in the USA. It is by state. In my state, you can totally record someone without their knowledge so long as YOU are part of the conversation. You cannot, however, record other people's conversations that you play no role in.

[kevpan815]

In the U.S.A., it is Illegal to record a person's phone call unless you notify him or her that their call is being recorded, and I think only Corporations are allowed to do so with their 1-800-xxx-xxxx Toll Free Number's and only for Quality and Training Purposes Only.

[Shadrack]

kevpan815, on 05 December 2012 - 19:28, said:

In the U.S.A., it is Illegal to record a person's phone call unless you notify him or her that their call is being recorded, and I think only Corporations are allowed to do so with their 1-800-xxx-xxxx Toll Free Number's and only for Quality and Training Purposes Only.

No, there is no federal law. Whether or not you need to notify is a state law thing. In my state it isn't required so long as you are involved in the conversation. It is, however, considered common courtesy everywhere.

My wife was able to record her ex-husband over the phone making threats to her and she presented it in court, for instance. She didn't need to let him know that she was recording him, because in my state that is legal. It didn't amount to much in court, however... they just kind of rolled their eyes and acted like it really wasn't that big of a deal. Whatever, he knows now that everything he says to us is recorded so he keeps his lips a lot tighter these days.

[pes2013]

Shadrack, on 28 November 2012 - 17:19, said:

These aren't illegal everywhere in the USA. It is by state. In my state, you can totally record someone without their knowledge so long as YOU are part of the conversation. You cannot, however, record other people's conversations that you play no role in.

Shadrack, on 05 December 2012 - 21:36, said:

No, there is no federal law. Whether or not you need to notify is a state law thing. In my state it isn't required so long as you are involved in the conversation. It is, however, considered common courtesy everywhere.

My wife was able to record her ex-husband over the phone making threats to her and she presented it in court, for instance. She didn't need to let him know that she was recording him, because in my state that is legal. It didn't amount to much in court, however... they just kind of rolled their eyes and acted like it really wasn't that big of a deal. Whatever, he knows now that everything he says to us is recorded so he keeps his lips a lot tighter these days.

It did not amount much in court because it is illegal to record someone over a cell phone without notifying them.

http://en.wikipedia....s#United_States

Wikipedia itself isn't too sure on this but no, you cannot do it.

[Astra.Xtreme]

pes2013, on 05 December 2012 - 21:51, said:

It did not amount much in court because it is illegal to record someone over a cell phone without notifying them.

http://en.wikipedia....s#United_States

Wikipedia itself isn't too sure on this but no, you cannot do it.

Read what it says... Only 12 states require you to give them notice.

[Shadrack]

pes2013, on 05 December 2012 - 21:51, said:

It did not amount much in court because it is illegal to record someone over a cell phone without notifying them.

http://en.wikipedia....s#United_States

Wikipedia itself isn't too sure on this but no, you cannot do it.

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From the New Mexico State Code

N.M. Stat. Ann. § 30-12-1: A criminal interference with communications occurs when anyone intercepts, records or discloses the contents of any message sent by telephone or telegraph without the consent of a sender or receiver. Illegal interceptions are misdemeanors. Illegal interceptions carry the potential for civil liability for the greater of actual damages, $100 per day of violation or $1,000, along with punitive damages, attorney fees and litigation costs. N.M. Stat. Ann. § 30-12-11.
An intermediate appellate court has stated that in New Mexico, "one who voluntarily enters into a conversation with another takes the risk that the other person on the line may memorize, record or even transmit the conversation." New Mexico v. Arnold, 610 P.2d 1214 (N.M Ct. App. 1979), rev’d on other grounds, 610 P.2d 1210 (N.M. 1980).

[pes2013]

http://www.law.corne...de/text/18/2511

This is a gray area: Federal law says no, state law says yes.

[Glassed Silver]

Guys, can we stop the off topic legality discussion?
We're moving in circles and OP isn't even located in the US. And even if he were, it wouldn't matter because the topic is interesting nevertheless as the principle of recording a conversation is not illegal per sé seeing how with consent it is indeed legal.

It's getting dragging and distracts from the actual topic.

Glassed Silver:mac