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[s]So I'm upgrading my video card and was wondering if [url="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4926347&CatId=7387"]this card[/url] would be a good purchase.[/s] If not could someone recommend a good one under the $200 range?

Thanx.

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Dang it! Any card I get needs to be PCI-E 2.0 or 2.1.

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http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/pci-express-2.0,review-30726.html

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Yea, I saw that. But those are old cards. I have a GTX 550 ti right now.

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[quote name='Lo Tec' timestamp='1354915530' post='595375920']
Yea, I saw that. But those are old cards. I have a GTX 550 ti right now.
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7870 if you can push to $209

[url="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2316882&CatId=7387"]http://www.tigerdire...6882&CatId=7387[/url]

EDIT -Sorry thats the 7850 - came up in the 7870 results

$219 for the 7870
[url="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4249672&CatId=7387"]http://www.tigerdire...9672&CatId=7387[/url]

I have the 7870 and its a beast of a card

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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1354915669' post='595375928']
7870 if you can push to $209

[url="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2316882&CatId=7387"]http://www.tigerdire...6882&CatId=7387[/url]
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I never even considered Radeon. But I can't run a PCI-E 3.0 on my Asus M5A97 mobo. That's why I scratched out that card in my OP.

1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (blue)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black)
2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
2 x PCI

Edit:

Guess 2.1 is also out. Doesn't leave me many choices on upgrade. :(

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PCI E 3.0 is backwards comapatble with 2.0 and 2.1 and 1.0 slots

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[quote name='Lo Tec' timestamp='1354915929' post='595375950']
I never even considered Radeon. But I can't run a PCI-E 3.0 on my Asus M5A97 mobo. That's why I scratched out that card in my OP.

1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (blue)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black)
2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
2 x PCI

Edit:

Guess 2.1 is also out. Doesn't leave me many choices on upgrade. :(
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You can run a PCI-E 3.0 card in a 2.1 or 2,0 machine, just runs at the speed your board supports

My machine has 2.0 running the 7870 3.0 card, not much will even max out 2.1 yet so your not bottlenecking the card running it in a 2.1 or 2.0 machine

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Check my edit in last post with link




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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1354916209' post='595375968']
You can run a PCI-E 3.0 card in a 2.1 or 2,0 machine, just runs at the speed your board supports

My machine has 2.0 running the 7870 3.0 card, not much will even max out 2.1 yet so your not bottlenecking the card running it in a 2.1 or 2.0 machine

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Check my edit in last post with link




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Hmm, if that's the case, then an extra few bucks won't even matter. But why Radeon over nVidia? Is there a benefit that I'm overlooking?

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[quote name='Lo Tec' timestamp='1354916653' post='595375978']
Hmm, if that's the case, then an extra few bucks won't even matter. But why Radeon over nVidia? Is there a benefit that I'm overlooking?
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Not really, AMD is cheaper than nVidia, nVidia do have better performing cards but you have to pay the price for them

My brother paid

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The GTX 660 seems to be the card to get these days... but it's about $100 over your budget :( So the AMD 7870 would be the next best bet.

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So then just out of curiosity, since they are backward compatible. Which of these two would be better:

[url="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4926347&CatId=7387"]http://www.tigerdire...6347&CatId=7387[/url]

[url="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5190094&csid=_61"]http://www.tigerdire...190094&csid=_61[/url]

Because I have always ran nVidia.

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[quote name='Lo Tec' timestamp='1354917145' post='595375996']
So then just out of curiosity, since they are backward compatible. Which of these two would be better:

[url="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4926347&CatId=7387"]http://www.tigerdire...6347&CatId=7387[/url]

[url="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5190094&csid=_61"]http://www.tigerdire...190094&csid=_61[/url]

Because I have always ran nVidia.
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The 650Ti would out perform the normal 650 - Bear in mind, those cards only have a 128bit memory bus width vs the 7870 with 265bit and a whole load better specs all round

[img]http://localhostr.com/files/E7IsbkE/Capture.PNG[/img]

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Ti is marginally better, http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti

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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1354917368' post='595376004']
The 650Ti would out perform the normal 650 - Bear in mind, those cards only have a 128bit memory bus width vs the 7870 with 265bit

[img]http://localhostr.com/files/E7IsbkE/Capture.PNG[/img]
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Then I think I've made my decision. I will get the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti.

Thanx everyone.

Edit:

Wait, what's the diff on the bit memory?
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[quote name='Lo Tec' timestamp='1354917504' post='595376018']
Then I think I've made my decision. I will get the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti.

Thanx everyone.
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:) enjoy your new card

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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1354917570' post='595376022']
:) enjoy your new card
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Thanx. But can you take a look at my edit above please?

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Bandwidth is the difference on the memory

128bit vs 256bit = half the bandwidth

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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1354917692' post='595376032']
Bandwidth is the difference on the memory

128bit vs 256bit = half the bandwidth
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So, the memory is used more efficiently on the Radeon, then on the nVidia? Not sure I understand.

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[quote name='Lo Tec' timestamp='1354917824' post='595376040']
So, the memory is used more efficiently on the Radeon, then on the nVidia? Not sure I understand.
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From a quick google, the 650Ti has 86.4GB/s memory bandwidth

My 7870 has 160GB/s, so almost doubling the 128bit memory

So from what I understand, VRAM intensive games will suffer from the 128bit bandwidth (Trying to find some real life benchmarks)
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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1354918033' post='595376052']
From a quick google, the 650Ti has 86.4GB/s memory bandwidth

My 7860 has 160GB/s, so almost doubling the 128bit memory

So from what I understand, VRAM intensive games will suffer from the 128bit bandwidth
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Grrr, you can make decisions hard can't you? I guess my choice is spending a little extra and getting the Radeon. Thanx again Brother.
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[quote name='Lo Tec' timestamp='1354918199' post='595376060']
Grrr, you can make decisions hard can't you? I guess my choice is spending a little extra and getting the Radeon. Thanx again Brother.
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lol

I would spend the extra, I've had this card a few weeks now and it eats and spits out just about everything I've thrown at it

Crysis 2 @ Ultra & HD Textures @ 1080p = Perfectly Smooth

Here's some benchmarks and a review for the 650Ti if you want to convince or un-convince yourself :p

http://uk.kotaku.com/5950643/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-review



[img]http://localhostr.com/files/VZ2JB9Q/Capture.PNG[/img]

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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1354918487' post='595376072']
lol

I would spend the extra, I've had this card a few weeks now and it eats and spits out just about everything I've thrown at it

Crysis 2 @ Ultra & HD Textures @ 1080p = Perfectly Smooth

Here's some benchmarks and a review for the 650Ti if you want to convince or un-convince yourself :p

[url="http://uk.kotaku.com/5950643/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-review"]http://uk.kotaku.com...x-650-ti-review[/url]



[img]http://localhostr.com/files/VZ2JB9Q/Capture.PNG[/img]
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Well, I guess if my GTX 550ti works good on my two new games, Afterfall: InSanity and Singularity. Then this Radeon will be awesome.

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[quote name='Lo Tec' timestamp='1354918798' post='595376086']
Well, I guess if my GTX 550ti works good on my two new games, Afterfall: InSanity and Singularity. Then this Radeon will be awesome.
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Ah most definitely, my brother used to have the 560Ti iirc, and I whipped him with 2 x 6850s, and this 7870 laughs at them in everything so far, drivers are almost at release (Beta 11) and each release is improving performance quite a bit

So those review benchmarks above will be completely different with the latest drivers


If you want to try before you buy, run 3DMark11 right now, and I`ll do the same and post the results to compare

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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1354919222' post='595376096']
Ah most definitely, my brother used to have the 560Ti iirc, and I whipped him with 2 x 6850s, and this 7870 laughs at them in everything so far, drivers are almost at release (Beta 11) and each release is improving performance quite a bit

So those review benchmarks above will be completely different with the latest drivers


If you want to try before you buy, run 3DMark11 right now, and I`ll do the same and post the results to compare
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Will be a few mins. I have to dl it first. LOL!

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[quote name='Lo Tec' timestamp='1354919368' post='595376104']
Will be a few mins. I have to dl it first. LOL!
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lol I just realised I have to install it, I reinstalled 7 not long ago

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Ok, this is with the 7870 at stock clocks

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