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[mrp04]

I never understood why everyone hated GFWL so much. It never caused any issues for me with the games that I had that used it (Halo 2, Gears of War, can't remember what else). And they don't require gold to play multiplayer. Why do you all hate it so much?

[Javik]

Because my experience wasn't the same, I found it a massive pain in the butt.

[mrp04]

Specifics please. People just say pain in the but. How? It just brings a menu up when I press the home key that lets me see achievements and do a private chat with another LIVE user.

[Javik]

Well the GFWL client crashed whilst I was playing Bioshock 2. It hosed my configuration data and corrupted all of my save files. And even when that didn't happen I got a lot of server drops, and I just found the matchmaking system to be poor (I was constantly being dropped into completely empty servers whilst searching for online games)

[mrp04]

I see. I guess I never did a whole lot of multiplayer to experience matchmaking. Mine never crashed though.

[Javik]

Although I don't play Bioshock 2 as much now, I had no more crashes after that one. Although I'd be surprised if many people still play Bioshock 2's multiplayer, it was never that busy to begin with.

[PGHammer]

compl3x, on 08 December 2012 - 14:49, said:

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Straight from the horses mouth. None of that damn GFWL.

GfWL is itself being replaced by XBLA.

Molehill/not news.

Still, what it comes down to is that the same folks that complained about GfWL really want LAN-based multiplayer - not online multiplayer.

(I've heard the same complaint about *every* PC game with a non-LAN MP component - regardless of who provides the service.)

[Javik]

Certainly not my complaint. I just want something that actually works like Steam and Origin's MP matching systems

[compl3x]

PGHammer, on 12 December 2012 - 20:50, said:

Molehill/not news.

[Deranged]

mrp04, on 09 December 2012 - 01:29, said:

Specifics please. People just say pain in the but. How? It just brings a menu up when I press the home key that lets me see achievements and do a private chat with another LIVE user.

I know on my old connection (which obviously wasn't great, but it worked) the patch downloads died on large patches and there's no resume, so that ****ed me off. And if I'd moved the folder I had to do some general ****ery to install the patch.

I didn't care, otherwise. It was just there.

It just seemed like they got everything working and forgot to actually make it user friendly.

[xiphi]

I'm more likely to purchase a game that has GFWL. While I don't think it's that big of a deal, I'm not sure where all the all hate is coming from. I've had no problems with it.

[giantpotato]

I think GFWL is dead. I've noticed lately games that had GFWL in the past don't have GFWL in the sequels. Fallout, Dirt, Bioshock, Blacklight, Kane & Lynch, Red Faction to name a few. Personally, I liked GFWL because of the achievements added to your gamerscore.

[Lord Method Man]

I don't think anyone other than Capcom is still releasing GFWL titles.

[+Majesticmerc]

giantpotato, on 13 December 2012 - 17:29, said:

I think GFWL is dead. I've noticed lately games that had GFWL in the past don't have GFWL in the sequels. Fallout, Dirt, Bioshock, Blacklight, Kane & Lynch, Red Faction to name a few. Personally, I liked GFWL because of the achievements added to your gamerscore.

GFWL is dying because it keeps ruining the reviews of otherwise great PC games.

[@Leo]

Lord Method Man, on 13 December 2012 - 18:36, said:

I don't think anyone other than Capcom is still releasing GFWL titles.

And Atari, apparently. Ferrari Racing Legends was released with GFWL.