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[jonduc]

I have been working as an IT admin in a university and know the situation regarding budgets...
For old processors you are better off using the free VMware Server 2.0. It works on stone age processors whereas the newer VMware Workstations, ESXi and Hyper-V require newer CPUs. You can check the processor specs worst case there are lists online. But VMware Server is just as good and runs even on dual cores

[PGHammer]

jonduc, on 05 February 2013 - 22:16, said:

I have been working as an IT admin in a university and know the situation regarding budgets...
For old processors you are better off using the free VMware Server 2.0. It works on stone age processors whereas the newer VMware Workstations, ESXi and Hyper-V require newer CPUs. You can check the processor specs worst case there are lists online. But VMware Server is just as good and runs even on dual cores

Actually, Hyper-V Server (or Windows Server 2008 and newer) will work on any computer that supports x64 flavors of Windows.

Unlike Windows 8 (which requires EPT/SLAT to use Hyper-V) Windows Server didn't, and still doesn't - even with Server 2012. (That is why I use Server 2012 Standard in my virtualization lab - no SLAT support in the Q6600.)

Why Server 2012 (instead of Hyper-V Server)? The GUI VM management tools - period. If I were comfortable using PowerShell for VM creation and management, I'd stick with Hyper-V Server.

So who told you that load of BS?

[TPreston]

PGHammer, on 08 February 2013 - 16:00, said:

Why Server 2012 (instead of Hyper-V Server)? The GUI VM management tools - period. If I were comfortable using PowerShell for VM creation and management, I'd stick with Hyper-V Server.

I was the same, You just add them to a windows 8 computer using the server manager and you can use the hyperv tools as if you were on the full gui version.

[]SK[]

I have a Q6600 and installed Hyper-V 2012 yesterday?

I gave up after though as I didn't want to add my Windows 8 PC to my test domain just to get the tools.

[PGHammer]

Aergan, on 27 December 2012 - 16:08, said:

The earliest machine I could find at work that would take Hyper-V 2012 was a Core 2 Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz) on Intel X38 Express Chipset. Some older C2D/C2Q CPU's support it but the chipsets don't.
On AMD, Phenom or newer seems fine (I run a Phenom X4 2.2Ghz B3 at home with Server 2012 & Hyper-V 2012) but I hear B2 steppings and earlier are broken by mistake.

Actually any Core 2 Quad will, as *all* support at least VT-x - the same is true of most Core 2 Duos (E6xxx/E8xxx and above) and *all* Celeron DC E3xxx (again, all the preceding support VT-x) as long as the chipset is from Intel's 3-series or newer (the exception, weirdly enough, is G31 - AKA Bear Lake; G41 - AKA Eagle Lake, the successor to Bear Lake, explicitly supports VT-x) - my Windows 8 computer dual-boots Server 2012 (which is the core of my virtualization lab) because of no SLAT support in the Q6600.

TPreston, on 08 February 2013 - 16:07, said:

I was the same, You just add them to a windows 8 computer using the server manager and you can use the hyperv tools as if you were on the full gui version.

If I were running i5-3570K (which supports SLAT) I'd simply run Hyper-V in Windows 8; however, due to lack of SLAT/EPT with Q6600, I need a server OS, and my choices were Server 2008 or newer or Hyper-V Server. (I don't have a second box.)