iPhone 5 vs S3, Can't make my mind up..


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The choice is obvious and a no-brainer: Galaxy S3

Why you may ask? Very simple:

1. Removable battery - battery lasts you all day. (battery lasts all day on iPhone 4S+)

2. SD Card slot (meh, not very important unless you load up your phone with insane amounts of data)

3. 2GB RAM (just plain wrong, it's 1 GB RAM, 2 GB is only available in very select markets)

4. Dual Core (iPhone 5 is a dual core too) (then how is this an advantage if they're both dual-core?)

5. 4.8 inch screen - super colorful and bright (iPhone's screen is "super colorful and bright", size is a matter of preference)

6. Jelly Bean 4.1.1 (so you're saying the S3 doesn't support 4.2? Interesting)

7 Very fast phone. (so is the iPhone)

8. Has unique features the iPhone 5 only dreams of having. (such as?)

9. Much, much better multitasking than iPhone. (arguable at best, multitasking on iOS is beyond simple)

I just got an iPhone 5 and Nexus 4 on order. I will use the iPhone 5 as my personal phone. Too many benefits for ME. That doesn't mean they'll be for you. You should ignore everyone here and just do your own research ... ie: Figure out what services you use, and how well they integrate ... for instance, you can forget iMessage or iCloud on the iPhone, but you will get great Google integration on the Android ... more than iOS... some Google apps are on iOS too but the level of integration on Android is far more like Apple's iCloud on iOS. Then of course, apps ... do you have hundreds of dollars worth of apps on iOS or Android? That could be a factor. Anyways ... I'd also try and get some experience playing with the phones.

Took out the irellevant reasons for you ;) Removable battery is utter rubbish ... I have had Apple phones since they came out, and every one of them has outlasted the Android phones I've had (S, S2, Galaxy Nexus, S3 etc). Fast phone? So is the iPhone. 2GB Ram really doesn't matter on phones. More Ram means nothing unless the apps are using it and well written. Honestly, for the most part, it makes very little difference having 1 or 2 gb Ram on a phone.

I'm getting Nexus 4 and iPhone 5. I will have the best of both worlds. But I'll use the iPhone 5 as my main phone. Better overall user experience and higher grade 3rd party apps for the most part.

More ram means nothing? What universe did you come from? Maybe since you use a Iphone, you can't really multitask, so the ram doesn't do anything for you, but get a s3, watch a HD video while browsing opera or sending a text, and the flawless and lagless experience will prove your ram theory as pure bs.

Removable battery is a very good option for those who actually travel and are not near electrical outlets enough to charge a phone. Being able to have an option is better than none at all.

4.8 inch screen is a huge plus. It makes browsing, gestures, texting, reading, and everything else just that much easier.

I just got an iPhone 5 and Nexus 4 on order. I will use the iPhone 5 as my personal phone. Too many benefits for ME. That doesn't mean they'll be for you. You should ignore everyone here and just do your own research ... ie: Figure out what services you use, and how well they integrate ... for instance, you can forget iMessage or iCloud on the iPhone, but you will get great Google integration on the Android ... more than iOS... some Google apps are on iOS too but the level of integration on Android is far more like Apple's iCloud on iOS. Then of course, apps ... do you have hundreds of dollars worth of apps on iOS or Android? That could be a factor. Anyways ... I'd also try and get some experience playing with the phones.

Took out the irellevant reasons for you ;) Removable battery is utter rubbish ... I have had Apple phones since they came out, and every one of them has outlasted the Android phones I've had (S, S2, Galaxy Nexus, S3 etc). Fast phone? So is the iPhone. 2GB Ram really doesn't matter on phones. More Ram means nothing unless the apps are using it and well written. Honestly, for the most part, it makes very little difference having 1 or 2 gb Ram on a phone.

I'm getting Nexus 4 and iPhone 5. I will have the best of both worlds. But I'll use the iPhone 5 as my main phone. Better overall user experience and higher grade 3rd party apps for the most part.

Dude I had an iPhone 4S and I started using it at 8am every day and by 3pm the battery was almost gone (19%). My Samsung Galaxy received the same amount of usage as my iPhone 4S did and when I get home at 5:00pm, I still have 58% battery left, so please don't try to tell me that the battery on the iPhone is great because everyone knows it is not.

As far as RAM memory goes, the more memory you have, the more apps you can have opened and the more multitasking you can do without suffering in performance.

1. The S3 from AT&T has 2GB of RAM...So you are wrong.

2. I didn't say the S3 did not support Android 4.2, YOU did. I said it comes with Android 4.1.1

3. Being able to remove the battery DOES matter.

4. Having an SD Card DOES matter

5. You are nothing but an Apple fanboy

1. Removable battery - battery lasts you all day. (battery lasts all day on iPhone 4S+) (options are better than none )

2. SD Card slot (meh, not very important unless you load up your phone with insane amounts of data) (again, having the option is better than not having it. )

3. 2GB RAM (just plain wrong, it's 1 GB RAM, 2 GB is only available in very select markets) ( 2gb is available for all US carriers, were as international versions of S3 got quad core procs and only 1 gig of ram)

4. Dual Core (iPhone 5 is a dual core too) (then how is this an advantage if they're both dual-core?) ( because the S3's processor is faster)

5. 4.8 inch screen - super colorful and bright (iPhone's screen is "super colorful and bright", size is a matter of preference) (while this opinion is a true opinion, when reading and texting and gesturing, bigger is normally better to an extent.)

6. Jelly Bean 4.1.1 (so you're saying the S3 doesn't support 4.2? Interesting) ( hasn't been officially pushed, but yes, the S3 will be able to do 4.2 and a few beyond )

7 Very fast phone. (so is the iPhone)

8. Has unique features the iPhone 5 only dreams of having. (such as?) (True multitasking - IE- watch a video, drag the video into a small box into the corner of my screen, open up my messenger and tell my friend how awesome it is I can text and watch this movie at the same time on my phone ... and other things )

9. Much, much better multitasking than iPhone. (arguable at best, multitasking on iOS is beyond simple) )There is no comparison, andriod is a true multitasker , where as iOS is very simplistic and minimilistic in it's ability to truely allow 2 things to go on at once beyond hearing your music and sending a text or something :p )

1. The S3 from AT&T has 2GB of RAM...So you are wrong.

2. I didn't say the S3 did not support Android 4.2, YOU did. I said it comes with Android 4.1.1

3. Being able to remove the battery DOES matter.

4. Having an SD Card DOES matter

5. You are nothing but an Apple fanboy

1. My mistake then. Canadian version has 1 GB RAM.

2. Again, I don't see how that's a selling point if a better version of Android is in the marketplace but hasn't been pushed out for the S3.

3. If the battery is terrible, sure. Haven't had that issue yet.

4. If you run out of space, sure. Again, on a phone, hard to do.

5. Nice one. The iPhone is actually the only Apple device I own.

I honestly don't understand the point of this thread, especially since the OP is so incoherent with his opinions/facts. OP already owns a S3, obviously doesn't like it, so....get an iphone5??? Isn't that the next logical "smart phone move" If you pose a question you've already answered yourself.... what's even the point ?

It's the principle behind a pentile display. It has an inferior pixel pattern which makes it easily noticeable at normal viewing distance.

http://www.androidau...pentile-121182/

I still have the S3 at home in the box and have put the iPhone next to it, in which the difference is night and day. You can't pick out the pixels on the iPhone even if your face is mashed on the screen. You can pick out the jagged edges on the S3 from 2 feet from your eyes. A pentile display is crap quality, but lasts longer, which is a pretty stupid trade off, in my opinion. As if anybody is going to keep the S3 for over a decade.

You definitely don't need a microscope to easily pick up on the difference:

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If I can survive driving home thru the blizzard today, I'll take a picture of the S3 and I'm willing to bet you'll be able to distinguish the pixels.

Still having trouble seeing the horrible display that is all pixelated... except on that one you showed that was zoomed in beyond what anyone would every actually do. I have the S3, friend has the iphone 5, but screens are great, and I can't tell the difference in them, except for color saturation, which since I like more, I go with the S3, while the I5 provides a little more realistic tones.

But for the screens, there aren't pixels. I'm looking at mine right now, widgets, apps, text, alarm clock... can't see them. Phone probably 6 inches from my face too.

Of course, it will be harder to see a pixel on a phone that is the size of the display screen screen of my phone :p

I used the S3 yesterday for about 12hrs, I ended up switching back to my iPhone 4s.

I did love a few things about the S3:

Loved the big screen, although I found it slightly to big.

Loved the widgets, although couldn't really find a use for them. Liked the weather widget that was part of touchwiz.

Think the main thing I liked about it, was it just felt fresh, compared to iOS being a bit boring.

I found the keyboard a bit annoying to type with and also give swiftkey a go, which was a big improvement on the stock keyboard. But still didn't find it as easy to type on as the iOS keyboard.

In the end I switched back to the 4s because it just felt a bit nicer to use and I didn't really use anything on the S3 that the 4s couldn't do, although it's a bit boring compared to the S3 but that's what happens when iOS hasn't changed much since the beginning.

Would like the edition of widgets to iOS, something just to freshen up the OS a bit, make it a bit more lively. If I was a new use to either Android or iOS it would be a very difficult choice between which one I'd choose.

Still having trouble seeing the horrible display that is all pixelated... except on that one you showed that was zoomed in beyond what anyone would every actually do. I have the S3, friend has the iphone 5, but screens are great, and I can't tell the difference in them, except for color saturation, which since I like more, I go with the S3, while the I5 provides a little more realistic tones.

But for the screens, there aren't pixels. I'm looking at mine right now, widgets, apps, text, alarm clock... can't see them. Phone probably 6 inches from my face too.

Of course, it will be harder to see a pixel on a phone that is the size of the display screen screen of my phone :p

If I remember correctly, I was able to notice the pixels easiest on the green phone icon and anything round. I can't tell from looking at screenshots since my lcd monitor here at work is probably worse clarity than the S3. :laugh: I'll fire it up and take another look when I get home.

Oh, and the iPhone 5's screen is WAY brighter ... the screen tech in the S3 is a more dull AMOLED screen which physically is incapable of displaying white as white. I am a designer, leading the Android team ... and believe me, it's a royal pain in my ass ... :D

The choice is obvious and a no-brainer: Galaxy S3

Why you may ask? Very simple:

1. Removable battery - battery lasts you all day.

2. SD Card slot

3. 2GB RAM

4. Dual Core (iPhone 5 is a dual core too)

5. 4.8 inch screen - super colorful and bright

6. Jelly Bean 4.1.1

7 Very fast phone.

8. Has unique features the iPhone 5 only dreams of having.

9. Much, much better multitasking than iPhone.

1. My iPhone 5's battery lasts longer than any friend's Galaxy S3 so far.

2. One pro over the iPhone 5, I'll give you that.

3. The vast majority of Galaxy SIII models have 1 GB of memory. No advantage over the iPhone 5.

4. No advantage over the iPhone 5.

5. The iPhone 5's screen quality has come out on top in just about every test. Most agree the Galaxy SIII's screen is way too saturated.

6. Matter of personal preferences whether you like iOS or Android. Personally I find the apps on iOS of way better quality.

7. No advantage over the iPhone 5.

8. Such as? Also, phones don't dream.

9. I honestly don't see why.

Was on the S3, but i found for work the email setting (active snyc) wasnt doing it for me. Moved to iPhone5 and find its alot better now. Also the S3 is a massive screen, while i found the S3 a great phone and one that can take on the iPhone, it wasnt for me. The iPhone works for me and i enjoy, will look at the S4, but only if it gets better active sync and email clients.

Everyone bitching about the battery life on a S3 / Note 2 being better then an iPhone. I HOPE SO.

The S3 has a Standard battery, Li-Ion 2100 mAh

The Note 2 has a Standard battery, Li-Ion 3100 mAh

The iPhone 5 has a 1440mAh

So now, out of all this, the iPhone comes out on TOP for battery life because people above, myself have gone all day on my iPhone and its lasted maybe an hour or 2 less then a Stock Galaxy S3 and maybe 3-4 hours on a Galaxy Note 2. You know what? I expected that when the battery has anywhere from 660mAh to 1660mAh. But the truth of the matter is, iOS handles battery power a LOT better then android.

I just got my Nexus 4, and i ****ing love it. But, until I flashed the kernel mod with optimized battery close enough to how iOS does it, I was barely getting by a full day with me up at 9am, and in bed by 2 am, with 8 hours of work.

My 5 lasted me all day. When I flashed the kernel mod onto my nexus 4, god damn, that battery is being utilized CORRECTLY.

I also keep my brightness 25-35% on both phones because the screen quality on both phones is amazing. For me, my eyes adjust better to higher ppi and lower brightness.

So anyone complaining about bad battery life on the iPhone is looking at it the wrong way.

If the iPhone ever gets to the 2100mAh mark, youll see its battery life excel any stock android phone, because android hasnt truly been optimized for battery life. Google needs to hire developers that make roms, or kernel mods, and have them develop stock android. Thats the experience I love.

Only reason I finally bought an android phone because windows phone 8 hasnt picked up to the point where I can enjoy it and the Nexus 4 is a ****ing amazing piece of hardware and Jelly bean 4.2 is something i will give google real credit for. Project butter is awesome.

The only thing I dont like, music management. From my lockscreen I cant pause/skip/play/change volume when im listening to music. On the iPhone it was double press home button. That sounds way more simple and productive then unlocking, google music, etc and back. Especially when driving and not looking at your phone.

Everyone bitching about the battery life on a S3 / Note 2 being better then an iPhone. I HOPE SO.

The S3 has a Standard battery, Li-Ion 2100 mAh

The Note 2 has a Standard battery, Li-Ion 3100 mAh

The iPhone 5 has a 1440mAh

So now, out of all this, the iPhone comes out on TOP for battery life because people above, myself have gone all day on my iPhone and its lasted maybe an hour or 2 less then a Stock Galaxy S3 and maybe 3-4 hours on a Galaxy Note 2. You know what? I expected that when the battery has anywhere from 660mAh to 1660mAh. But the truth of the matter is, iOS handles battery power a LOT better then android.

I just got my Nexus 4, and i ****ing love it. But, until I flashed the kernel mod with optimized battery close enough to how iOS does it, I was barely getting by a full day with me up at 9am, and in bed by 2 am, with 8 hours of work.

My 5 lasted me all day. When I flashed the kernel mod onto my nexus 4, god damn, that battery is being utilized CORRECTLY.

I also keep my brightness 25-35% on both phones because the screen quality on both phones is amazing. For me, my eyes adjust better to higher ppi and lower brightness.

So anyone complaining about bad battery life on the iPhone is looking at it the wrong way.

If the iPhone ever gets to the 2100mAh mark, youll see its battery life excel any stock android phone, because android hasnt truly been optimized for battery life. Google needs to hire developers that make roms, or kernel mods, and have them develop stock android. Thats the experience I love.

Only reason I finally bought an android phone because windows phone 8 hasnt picked up to the point where I can enjoy it and the Nexus 4 is a ****ing amazing piece of hardware and Jelly bean 4.2 is something i will give google real credit for. Project butter is awesome.

The only thing I dont like, music management. From my lockscreen I cant pause/skip/play/change volume when im listening to music. On the iPhone it was double press home button. That sounds way more simple and productive then unlocking, google music, etc and back. Especially when driving and not looking at your phone.

You are wrong sir. I am an Apple user. Apple TV, iPad, iMac and until 2 weeks ago, I was an iPhone 4S user and I can tell you that the battery on the Note 2 and the S3 lasts way longer than the iPhone's battery. Sorry, but you are wrong. I was an iPhone user for 4 years. I use my Note 2 just as much as I used my iPhone 4S and by the time I get home from 7am to 6pm, I still have 58% battery left. On the iPhone 4S my battery was dead by 3pm, same use habits since I use my phone for work. GPS off, BlueTooth off. The Samsung phone batteries lasts longer.

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On opening Backup, you can select internal storage folders on your phone to backup to the ZimaBoard 2's storage, and although this is constantly scanned, the backup action itself must be manually triggered. There is an option to allow foreground backup (last image in the above gallery), but this basically means the queued backup gets triggered when you manually open the app. Benchmarking SATA PCIe 3.0 X4 A CrystalDiskMark test on a mapped network drive from within a Windows 11 25H2 PC (image above) connected over a 2.5 GbE was well within acceptable ranges. Writes were generally better on the SSD RAID mirror. SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 I also ran the NAS Performance tester, which tests the link speed performance. As you can see, it pretty much maxes out the 2.5GbE connection. Of course, you can also opt to bond the two 2.5 GbE connections for a bit more umph, but I didn't do that. Thermals Top PCIe card SATA HDDs Next, I measured some hotspots while playing content on Plex. It's fair to say this will perform better than a NAS that is enclosed in a metal or plastic case, as almost everything storage-wise is exposed! Anyway, the ZimaBoard 2 did not break a sweat with Plex streaming or disk benchmarks. ZimaOS Factory Reset ZimaOS does not include a factory reset option. Instead, you have to download the ZimaOS image and flash it to the eMMC manually. The flashing process is shown in the above gallery. The steps to do so are listed below: Download the ZimaOS image here; Open BalenaEtcher (Run as Administrator) and select the image; Select your inserted USB drive (min 8 GB) Flash to it; Connect your USB drive, monitor, keyboard, USB hub (optional), mouse (optional), and network cable (recommended) to the ZimaBoard 2; Connect power and press F11 continuously; Select your USB drive starting with UEFI in the boot device menu; Press Enter on the Install ZimaOS option; Select /dev/mmcblk0 (MMC) flash drive as target; Confirm with (three times) to wipe the target disk; Wait a couple of minutes while ZimaOS installs; Remove the USB drive and confirm with a reboot; Your ZimaBoard 2 has been factory reset. However, you don't have to stick with ZimaOS, in fact the company also offers official CasaOS images, that are based on Debian; or as they say themselves, put anything you want on this "hackable single board server" it's up to you. Conclusion I had a lot of fun putting this together. I've custom-built all my own PCs and servers since the 90s, and this is the first time I have had to put a NAS together. Even if the actual base ZimaBoard 2 was already a completed build, it still feels pretty custom. I just wish that IceWhale Technology included a getting-started guide in the box for the Start Kit, which would have really completed this kit. Instead, I had to search for the official video on the YouTube channel to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. So who is this for? Definitely the hobbyist who is comfortable building their own PC and servers. It also has a much smaller footprint than its nearest equivalent (in terms of specs), like the Beelink Me Pro, which is another NAS I will be testing soon. Although the Beelink does not come with the PCIe 3.0 X4 expansion, the ZimaBoard 2 Starter Kit suddenly looks to be a great bargain, even if it only offers the two 3.5-inch bays over the four in the other example. It makes a lot of sense to use Intel's N150 chip inside a NAS; it is more than capable of doing what the ZimaBoard 2 is intended for, media streaming and backup. It also looks like the IceWhale Technology staff are quite active in the official forums helping people with issues they come across with ZimaOS and the devices, peer support seems to be good as well, I was quickly able to find why I was not able to create a new Storage Pool in ZimaOS v1.6.1 even though that is quite a serious bug, hopefully it will be fixed in the next update. If you are comfortable with the command line and Docker, you'll be fine. You can do great things with this hardware. This was my first time with ZimaOS. It seems a bit barebones in comparison to the likes of Synology DSM, TOS, and UGOS, but it has a ton of apps to get you started with your home or small business NAS. Where to buy As of publishing, IceWhale Technology is running a discount of up to 5% for the Starter Kit. If you opt to get just the ZimaBoard 2 itself, it does come with a SATA Y-Cable, so you will be able to connect up to two 3.5-inch HDDs to it. ZimaBoard 2 1668 Starter Kit for $534.50 on Amazon US (was $548.60) ZimaBoard 2 832 Starter Kit for $372.88 on Amazon US (was $390.60) Zimaboard 2 1668 (16GB+64GB) for $419.90 on Amazon US Zimaboard 2 832 (8GB+32GB) for $359.90 on Amazon Disclosure: IceWhale Technology provided a free sample without any editorial input or review pre-approval. Good to know The Amazon link is U.S. specific, and not available in other regions unless specified. We only use first-party seller links (at the time of article publishing); ensure that you purchase from a first-party seller link only. Check out Today's Deals on Amazon | or our recent tech deals. 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    • It's in the Insider's group so yes it's technically beta, though these days it's hard to see much of a difference unless you opt for the most extreme beta builds, which I don't. When I moved here from the Release Preview channel I did so primarily because I wanted to see how well the restored taskbar functionality (restored from Win10, and earlier) is working and whether it was time to finally abandon SAB--and it is--working fine, so far. Not as polished as SAB, but it'll do for me.
    • I've been using MWB Premium for a number of years so that along with Windows updates and updated browser should be fine. Thanks for that.
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