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#1 DaDude

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:14

I just got a DVD recorder. I like the way it records, but it's very sloppy when adding chapter stops and putting together a dvd menu. So, I would like to edit it with a computer software since I have a DVD burner on my computer. Currently, I have Ulead Video Studio 10 and it can easily extract the Mpeg 2 videos from the recorded DVD. However, the problem is, this software doesn't support Dolby AC3 audio, which is audio codec that the DVD recorder uses to record the videos. It only supports PCM or Mpeg 2 audio, which is ridiculous IMHO since Dolby is the standard audio codec that is used in 99% of DVDs. So, the software will not author a DVD from Mpeg videos with a Dolby AC3 audio.

I tried a few free DVD authoring softwares out there, but all of them re-encode the videos, which is crazy because the videos don't need to be re-encoded since they're already encoded in the proper format. It just needs to be formatted into a DVD file with menus and chapters added. Ulead VideoStudio is able to do that without a problem, but like I said, it will not accept these videos recorded from the player since it won't support Dolby AC3.

So, are there any free DVD authoring softwares that doesn't re-encode and supports Dolby AC3 audio? I'm not looking for anything fancy. I'm just looking for a simple software that will take a bunch of Mpeg 2 videos (with AC3 audio), create a simple DVD menu, add some chapter stops, and format it into a DVD file?? Does one exists?

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:12

No free ones that I know of but try the likes of AVS4You or get Sony DVD Arcitect

with AVS you pay 40 and get all thier software including a very easy to use video editor as well.... I love it.

#3 Snake89

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:36

I like using ConvertXtoDvD.

http://www.vso-softw...nvert_x_to_dvd/

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 07:21

+1 for ConvertXtoDVD here!

#5 OP DaDude

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 14:27

So, there's nothing free?

All the free ones I googled and tried are terrible. They all re-encode when they shouldn't. I guess this is a good example where you get what you pay for.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 22:09

Not sure why anyone would be into creating DVDs any more these days - the trend is to just play the files directly. But I would think this does what you want for FREE. I recall using it back in the day when creating dvds was in fashion - 5 years ago or so ;)

http://www.dvdstyler.org/en/

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DVDStyler is a cross-platform free DVD authoring application for the creation of professional-looking DVDs. It allows not only burning of video files on DVD that can be played practically on any standalone DVD player, but also creation of individually designed DVD menus. It is Open Source Software and is completely free.

Features

create and burn DVD video with interactive menus
  • design your own DVD menu or select one from the list of ready to use menu templates v1.8.0
  • create photo slideshow
  • add multiple subtitle and audio tracks
  • support of AVI, MOV, MP4, MPEG, OGG, WMV and other file formats
  • support of MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, Xvid, MP2, MP3, AC-3 and other audio and video formats
  • support of multi-core processor
  • use MPEG and VOB files without reencoding, see FAQ
  • put files with different audio/video format on one DVD (support of titleset)
  • user-friendly interface with support of drag & drop
  • flexible menu creation on the basis of scalable vector graphic
  • import of image file for background
  • place buttons, text, images and other graphic objects anywhere on the menu screen
  • change the font/color and other parameters of buttons and graphic objects
  • scale any button or graphic object
  • copy any menu object or whole menu
  • customize navigation using DVD scripting
See Documents for more information

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 22:15

I've always like DVDFab for ripping my dvds/blurays. If you just need to do it as a one time thing they have a 30 day trial,
http://www.dvdfab.com/dvd-creator.htm

#8 OP DaDude

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 00:49

Not sure why anyone would be into creating DVDs any more these days - the trend is to just play the files directly. But I would think this does what you want for FREE. I recall using it back in the day when creating dvds was in fashion - 5 years ago or so ;)

http://www.dvdstyler.org/en/

About

DVDStyler is a cross-platform free DVD authoring application for the creation of professional-looking DVDs. It allows not only burning of video files on DVD that can be played practically on any standalone DVD player, but also creation of individually designed DVD menus. It is Open Source Software and is completely free.

Features

create and burn DVD video with interactive menus

  • design your own DVD menu or select one from the list of ready to use menu templates v1.8.0
  • create photo slideshow
  • add multiple subtitle and audio tracks
  • support of AVI, MOV, MP4, MPEG, OGG, WMV and other file formats
  • support of MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, Xvid, MP2, MP3, AC-3 and other audio and video formats
  • support of multi-core processor
  • use MPEG and VOB files without reencoding, see FAQ
  • put files with different audio/video format on one DVD (support of titleset)
  • user-friendly interface with support of drag & drop
  • flexible menu creation on the basis of scalable vector graphic
  • import of image file for background
  • place buttons, text, images and other graphic objects anywhere on the menu screen
  • change the font/color and other parameters of buttons and graphic objects
  • scale any button or graphic object
  • copy any menu object or whole menu
  • customize navigation using DVD scripting
See Documents for more information


I tried that. It keeps coming up with some error when formatting the DVD files. Not sure why.

And why wouldn't anyone still create DVDs? It's great to convert those old VHS tapes to DVD before the tape wears and tears. And is there a DVD player out there that would play Mpeg 2 videos without it being formatted into a DVD file??

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 13:01

Yeah I could see ripping old home VHS movies sure - but no reason to burn them to dvd. And no reason to store them in mpeg2 - not space effective.

There are lots of players that play all kinds of formats, mine play pretty much anything you could throw at it
Supported Media File Formats Video containers: MPEG1/2/4 Elementary (M1V, M2V, M4V),MPEG1/2 PS (M2P, MPG, DAT, VOB),MPEG2 Transport Stream (TS, TP, TRP, M2T, M2TS, MTS),AVI, ASF, WMV, Matroska (MKV),MOV (H.264), MP4, RMP4, 3D BD ISO Video Decoders: XVID SD/HD,MPEG-1, MPEG-2 MP@HL, MPEG-4.2 ASP@L5, 720p, 1-point GMC, MPEG-4.10 (H.264) : BP@L3, MP@L4.0, HP@L4.0, HP@L4.1,WMV9 : MP@HL,SMPTE 421M (VC-1) : MP@HL, AP@L3 Audio Containers: AAC, M4A,MPEG audio (MP1, MP2, MP3, MPA),WAV, WMA, FLAC, OGG Audio Decoders: Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS,WMA, WMA Pro,MPEG-1 Layer 1, 2, 3, MPEG-4 AAC-LC, MPEG-4 HE-AAC, MPEG-4 BSAC ,LPCM, FLAC, Vorbis, TrueAudio, APE Audio Audio Pass-Through: DTS, DTS-HD HR, DTS-HD MA, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby True HD Other Formats: ISO, IFO navigation, Simple BD navigation Photo Formats: JPEG, BMP, PNG, GIF Subtitle Formats: Open-subtitle support, SRT, MicroDVD SUB, SSA, SUB/IDX

Its a waste of time to burn it to dvd and be limited to that specific format - just store the digital copy and play it on your TV with any of the 100's of different players out there. Or just connect your computer to your TV with a video card that has hdmi out, etc. etc..

MY player is much smaller than any DVD player - and it just pulls my video library off my network.

But that software does exactly what you want - as to whatever error your seeing. How about looking into what it is.

#10 OP DaDude

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:45

But that software does exactly what you want - as to whatever error your seeing. How about looking into what it is.


You're right. The problem was I was extracting a video under the DVD-VR format. Even though it's also encoded using Mpeg-2, DVD Styler is rejecting the file. So, I recorded something else using a different format (DVD+VR) and it worked. Very odd, but at least I got it to work.

Thanks!

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:04

No problem have loads of fun burning an outdated format to an outdated media ;) heheh

I have a dvd recorder myself, I have used it in the past to burn stuff for my 85 year old mother-in-law to watch stuff ;) And I have used it to pull a digital copy of something I recorded on my dvrs, etc.

But if I pull something off the dvr's - I always just change the format to something current h.264 most likely, then either mkv or mp4 as the container.

#12 OP DaDude

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:08

Better that I use a DVD than keep the old VHS copy. At least with DVDs, it will last forever provided I back up the data. With VHS, once the tape wears away, your precious home movies are gone for good!!!

And this DVD recorder is great for recording stuff from TV. I can time record and keep digital copies of my favorite TV shows. And best of all, no monthly fees unlike DVRs. :)

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 21:37

I hear you - I can understand the recording use of the dvd recorder. Be it off TV or from VHS tape.. This makes perfect sense to me.. Its a device to record to mpeg2 no matter what the source, etc.

What I don't get is burning it back to a different DVD with some menu. Just pull the digital file off the dvd you recorded to, convert it to a more modern format an container and then store it on some disks somewhere. Access your media library whenever you want.. No need to put in some dvd into something and go through some menu to play a file.

Sure keep the dvd you burned with your recorder as a backup - this is a great use. But why have to browse through a bunch of dvd disks when you want to watch something when you can juts search through a menu or browse the menu on the TV, etc. Have you never heard of any of the media players? Something like xmbc or something?

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Where you can browse not only your video library but your music and photos as well.. Putting something on DVD is 90's way of doing things ;)

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 17:27

I don't think DVDs are as obsolete as you're making it out to be. They still sell plenty of DVDs and DVD players. And all Blu-ray players also play DVDs and upconvert them to your HDTV. Not to mention that all computers today come with a DVD drive. So, how can DVDs be a 90s thing?

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 17:14

"Not to mention that all computers today come with a DVD drive"

No not really - many laptops don't come with an optical drive at all.

Those same BR/DVD players you mention many will also play just the digital content off the media - no need for the dvd menu ;) Just burn the more efficient format and container to the media and let the player play the digital file -- you can store much more video on the disk that way!

The media itself still has use as a storage/transport medium for files - I burn all my home video's to DVD for backup and DR. But they are just files on the disk, there is no need to waste the space and time converting them to play in a standalone player these days.

DVD was a common format for many many years - there is still a market for the standalone players, as the old ones break and billy joe bob still has his collection of dvds he wants to watch. Just because they still sell dvd players does not mean they are not outdated.

I might of exaggerated a bit -- but creating DVD menu's is a dying methodology. I don't think your doing yourself any favors by clinging to it, at some point they will stop producing content on dvd. It's just waiting to die is all, do you see floppy disks any more?

Even if has 20 years life left - what is the point when there is a much better way. You also mention upconvert to hdtv, unless you are buying the cheapest of the cheapest tv these days they all have usb ports where you can just plug in a usb drive/stick and play the digital files that way. Even my 85 year old mother in laws TV can play files off usb. When we want to show her videos of her great grand daughter than I shot in 1080P, do I really want to covert them down to the limit of dvd quality, so a player can upconvert to hd or do I just put them on a usb stick and plug it into the side of her TV



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