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#1 briangw

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 19:28

Hi,

What programs are there out there (free or paid) that allow you to see who/what's on your wifi network, similar to Network Magic? I understand I could see things like that in my firewall or router but I am just looking for third party solutions since Cisco discontinued the software and were only including it with the Linksys routers.

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Brian


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 19:51

This?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 19:57

Any wireless router should give you who is associated with it. So your just looking for wireless clients right?

Not sure what direction your looking to go, but airodump-ng for example will sniff the wireless around you and show you all the stations and ap it finds, along with what AP a station (client) is associated with.

Grap a random image from the net for example

whoconnectedwho.jpg

So I highlighted couple example of which client is connected to which AP.

As to who is connected to your network, be it wired or wireless - other option is just look in your dhcp servers log to who holds a lease and if its active or not. Or just any network scanner to scan your subnet, then simple look in your arp table. Because doing a ping sweep not everything is going to respond. But once you do the scan you can look in your arp table for anything that replied to arp. If they are on your network, even if they block ping and firewall running, etc. still going to respond to arp!

I never used network magic, more like network garbage is what I would of called it - better suited name ;)

What exactly are you looking to accomplish and more than happy to help you find a way to do just that.

edit: Just saw this posted from above -- http://www.nirsoft.n...rk_watcher.html

Guess how that works ;) Scans network segment, looks for things that respond to arp - lists them ;) Prob exactly what your looking for!

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 20:01

Hi,

What programs are there out there (free or paid) that allow you to see who/what's on your wifi network, similar to Network Magic? I understand I could see things like that in my firewall or router but I am just looking for third party solutions since Cisco discontinued the software and were only including it with the Linksys routers.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 20:22

Thanks all.

More for BudMan's questions, here's what I'm trying to do.

Back in the summer, a Linux co-worker of mine came over and helped me install Smoothwall onto a Linux VM. Ever since, the speeds seem to be slower, both on the network and even on the Internet. So, I tried some product called Who's on my WiFi and I attempted to make a network map out of it mapping Mac addresses to the various devices in my house. It did a decent job but due to some devices being Nintendo 3DS's, iPod touches, Vonage modem, etc. (Maybe close to 20 devices (I have four kids and a wife)). I couldn't map hostnames and devices to everything. I figure the slowness might be Smoothwall, but I would like to create a network map to everything connected and actually see if someone is getting onto my network or it's Smoothwall. Plus, I want to get rid of cached information if possible.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 21:01

So how is this smoothwall vm connecting you to the internet. And where does your wireless connect in - are you double natting? Or is it just used as AP.

I run a VM as my router as well -- goes like this

internet -- cable modem -- (internet nic) N40L(vms) (lan nic) -- switch - other devices and wireless AP.

Is this how your connected?

You mention a vontage modem? I would assume that is natting for that to work, and then your smoothwall natting again? And then you have wireless router - which could be also natting, etc.

Can you please draw out your network? How many devices are wireless? Wireless is shared mind you!! You have one box using up the wireless and that can slow down everything else that is wireless, etc.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 21:35

So I have cable modem > smoothwall physical box (Using DHCP, two NICs: one NIC is green, second NIC is red) > wireless router (DHCP turned off and being used as a switch) > wireless and physically connected PCs. Vonage modem is connected directly to the switch (only one NAT).

I had my co-worker stop over and he suggested changing the web traffic to low on QoS on Smoothwall cause it was set to high. That should fix the one issue I have for Vonage calls being choppy when I'm on the Internet.

Wireless devices (not all used at once):

Media Center PC conected to TV
iPad
2 iPod Touches
2 Nintendo 3DS's
3 laptops
Desktop PC
my work iPhone (I leave WiFi on all the time)
My wife's Android cell

Wired:

my Desktop,
ESXi host (running three Linux VMs and Server 2012 Essentials as a DC/Backup server)
Smoothwall
Vonage

At any one time for connectivity, my Desktop will be on, Server 2012 sending small traffic and backup up some locations in the evening, both iPod touches, the iPad and our cell phones.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 21:46

If your running QoS then yeah I would look to that why your having slow downs.

If you looking to map everything on your network - that link to the little scanner from nirsoft should do it for you. Just ran a quick scan on my work segment

examplescan.jpg

its very QUICK!!!

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:22

Thanks Budman and everyone for your responses. This is exactly what I was looking for!