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#1 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:00

Orbis
- CPU: 8-core Jaguar @ 1.6GHz
- GPU: ~ Radeon 7970M in power, 18 compute units @ 800MHz
- Memory: 4GB GDDR5 @ 192GB/s bandwidth - 512MB reserved for OS -> 3.5GB for games
- Extra: "Compute module"

Durango
- CPU: 8-core Jaguar @ 1.6GHz
- GPU: ~ ? in power (DF says potentially weaker than Orbis), 12 compute units
- Memory: 8GB DDR3 @ 68GB/s bandwidth - 3GB reserved for OS (rumoured it may be down to 1-1.5GB though) -> 5-7GB for games
- Extra: "ESRAM" (small amount of faster RAM, 102GB/s bandwidth), other custom chips

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I was going to get PS4 anyway but this has just sealed the deal.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:12

I don't look at specs when buying a video game console all I care about is does it have online so I can play with my friends and does it have fun games.

I even pay gamestop like a year before the WiiU release for the system not knowing anything more then it had a touch screen controller.


all these specs do not really matter , sure more hardware better games but people try to hard to compare them to pc specs.

the WiiU does not have super computer specs and it looks amazing and has some really fun games .

just my 2cents

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:15

There isn't much else to talk about at the minute until games get announced and that wont be till E3.

I think the specs do matter as it looks like both consoles are going to be more closely matched than they were this generation. They both have their little strengths and weaknesses but I don't think we'll be seeing any more downrezzed games with choppy framerates like on the PS3.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:20

i just console makers wouldn't skimp on the RAM and add more, yes i know the architecture is different and that effectively the console is streaming the data from disc/hdd however having larger amount of ram would allow more objects to be on screen an any one time, and usually half way into a consoles life a RAM upgrade would be a godsend.

What i mean by objects is say like GTA IV, there was paper fluttering down the street, i wonder how much more could be added if the machines had more RAM.

I would have loved the machines to have at least 8GB available to games with up to 16GB as the environments they could create with that amount would be insane. (i also know about keeping costs down).

I suppose they are my blue skies.

Although my judgement will be on the games they have as to which ill get, ill probably go with the Xbox has i have quite a few 360 games and i like the controller and achievements.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:24

How does that info make you seal the deal on a PS4. so far the xbox seems a better deal to me. more memory makes it a better option alone.

either way we'll see a repeat of last generation, both consoles will be about the same performance, and look the same. well except less texture and object pop on the xbox, but in general. So I'll go with xbox, the company that knows software and has solid online, Sony spent a generation trying to catch up to live as it was at launch, now we're also getting XBL, next generation.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:24

Last gen had 256-512Mb RAM, this is a huge jump. Just piling more RAM into the console doesn't automatically make it better, all it does is bumps the price up.

Considering the powerful specs these consoles are going to be expensive as it is.


How does that info make you seal the deal on a PS4. so far the xbox seems a better deal to me. more memory makes it a better option alone.

either way we'll see a repeat of last generation, both consoles will be about the same performance, and look the same. well except less texture and object pop on the xbox, but in general. So I'll go with xbox, the company that knows software and has solid online, Sony spent a generation trying to catch up to live as it was at launch, now we're also getting XBL, next generation.

Better GPU, Faster RAM, 'Compute' Unit.

I don't care for being plastered with ads or paying to play online, I mostly play online on my PC, I do play PS3 online every now and again and can't justify £40 a year for the odd time I fire it up. Next Gen Uncharted is worth the asking price alone for me.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:38

Maybe better GPU, not gonna effect anything in reality. We all know this.
I think we'll have to wait and see about the memory, but in this case, the speed in both is more than fast enough. more is more important here. Far less texture popping.
a comput unit that could mean ANYTHING, and probably mean nothing. just like the "other custom chips".

xbox still comes out better.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:42

Last gen had 256-512Mb RAM, this is a huge jump. Just piling more RAM into the console doesn't automatically make it better, all it does is bumps the price up.

You can buy 6GB of RAM for about $30.
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I don't think 8 qualifies for bumping the price up.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:43

personally I don't care about the specs, I care about good software. some thign MS has shown they know, and Sony... eh not so much, though they're still somewhat better than nintendo and their slow ass software updates on the WiiU, not to mention the slow loading of... everything.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:43

specs on a console are really not all that important as i the specs on the current gen systems were not all that great and we still have some very impressive looking games that came out later on. I think its just early adopters of new consoles do not know how much they can tax the machine.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:46

You can buy 6GB of RAM for about $30.
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I don't think 8 qualifies for bumping the price up.

Doesn't work like that, they have to find extra space on the pcb which means rejigging all the components around to make it fit, its too late now to bump the ram up.

personally I don't care about the specs, I care about good software. some thign MS has shown they know, and Sony... eh not so much, though they're still somewhat better than nintendo and their slow ass software updates on the WiiU, not to mention the slow loading of... everything.

Yeah I suppose, specs are all we know of the consoles so far, I haven't seen much chat next gen wise just wanted to start a thread to get people talking about next gen.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:48

Doesn't work like that, they have to find extra space on the pcb which means rejigging all the components around to make it fit, its too late now to bump the ram up.

You seen a laptops innards lately? The insides are so sparse you could fit twice as much in there and still have breathing room. I don't think they'll have any problems whatsoever fitting a RAM chip in.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:50

Components on both sides of the board and traces running through the layers of the PCB, just because there is nothing on the surface doesn't mean there's nothing underneath.

I think the most important thing to take away from this is that 512Mb for the OS on Orbis and 3Gb on the Durango means that the PS4 is geared to be a pure games machine, the Nextbox is more the entertainment hub.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:51

I was talking about the size of the motherboard, not the components. It might take up to 3/5 of the actual laptop. The screen is the only thing that needs the space.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 19:54

I think developers want as much ram as they can get though and as far as GPU goes we don't even get any info on it for the Xbox so I can't say. Either way I'll be getting a Xbox yet again to start, I might get a ps4 as well when the price is right.