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I have been patiently waiting to upgrade to WP8 (still evaluating if I want to stay on at&t) but the more I read about WP8, the more I feel like I should stay with 7.5 for now. I came across this thread while trying to figure out how/why Xbox Music screwed my music library on my Windows 8 PC.
Has anyone here faced problems listed here?

[url="http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp8-wpmusic/master-list-of-issues-with-xbox-music-on-wp8/b1c64834-de43-4af6-8069-4626090289a3"]http://answers.micro...69-4626090289a3[/url]

I know that those with problems are the loudest and we don't get to hear +ve experiences but [i]I[/i] personally am facing similar problems on Xbox Music on Windows 8 and hence I think it might be same on WP8.

On a related note, we should raise hell for this screw up by Microsoft's Xbox team. Simply unbelievable! I think a FPN by John C is in order. :p
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I've been following that thread for quite a while as I have numerous issues with the Windows 8 Xbox Music app.

It definitely needs more media coverage.

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I began using my 8X as a music player before using an iPod Nano 3rd Gen. I had an LG Optimus 7 since WP7 launched.

Xbox Music on WP8 for locally stored files works great. I don't any performance issues or lags or whatever. It needs to improve in the playlist management, podcasts and other things. It lacks features, sure, but it works as expected as of now.

I don't have a subscription pass to Xbox Music so I can't comment on how good or bad it works. Music alone shouldn't be something that made you upgrade or stay with your current phone.

If you want to upgrade because of the new batch of WP8 phones like the 8X (I have this one and it's awesome) or the Lumia 920 because of their design, body, camera or other things, do a little research about how good Xbox Music with a subscription works if you have any.

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I haven't really noticed any problems on my Lumia 920 and feel that it works just as well as the Music app in WP7. I don't use Microsoft's subscription service and I've never used playlists so I've avoided any problems with those features but the default player with local music works fine.

I haven't had any trouble getting music onto the phone as syncing with WMP works fine. Zune was easier to use for syncing (and I suppose it's a shame to lose that) but with 32GB on-board I don't have to do much syncing anyway.

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I don't use Subscription service but just sync my own library (music mostly from Amazon). The way the Xbox Music app on Windows 8 has ****ed up my music is beyond unbelievable (random tags edited and files moved around as result, wrong album art etc.), and hence I was concerned about same thing happening on the phone.
I am mostly buying two 920s (replacing my Focus and Wife's 710) but as Music and Podcasts are two of the most used functions on my phone - I am worried to say the least. :)
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I'm in the same boat. As someone who originally purchased WP7 because it was a 'Zune with a phone', WP8 in its current state is a downgrade for me so I'm sticking with WP7 till my device dies or I see MS pull their heads out of their collective asses. I do use ZunePass and that scism (very reminiscent of the MSN Music fiasco) really annoys me. The lack of FM radio really ****es me off too.

Couple that with the same early adopter issues we've already gone through with WP7 and I personally just can't get behind WP8. I've also upvoted that suggestion but I'm not optimistic. The list itself is pretty damning and MS's token response was insulting.

QFT:

[i][color=#333333]"You've made a pretty great OS and put it on great hardware, but you removed an essential component that actually made me switch to WP in the first place. Syncing and the music app on WP7 so so intuitive I couldn't help but make fun on my friends who tried to manage music on the other platforms. Now I'm eating my words and cannot recommend WP to anyone who enjoys music (ie... most every soul in the world.)"[/color][/i]
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The biggest, and what makes this worthless IMO, synced playlists between Desktop and Surface RT, will not find all of the local files on the non-playlist originating device. This is with mirrored music libraries. This is critical with the absence of a Zune or iTunes like syncing piece of middleware combined with the abhorrent Modern UI for the music app and Modern UI system search which together make searching for music and creating playlists on Windows 8 and endeavor not worth the effort and frustration.

[quote name='jakem1' timestamp='1359191467' post='595480564']
I haven't really noticed any problems on my Lumia 920 and feel that it works just as well as the Music app in WP7. I don't use Microsoft's subscription service and I've never used playlists so I've avoided any problems with those features but the default player with local music works fine.

I haven't had any trouble getting music onto the phone as syncing with WMP works fine. Zune was easier to use for syncing (and I suppose it's a shame to lose that) but with 32GB on-board I don't have to do much syncing anyway.
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Don't make excuses for MS. And don't settle for less. It's abysmal that we have to go back to classic WMP Classic to sync and Windows Phone 8 on Windows 8. WMP Classic isn't even available on Windows RT.

This situation is simply and epic fail and Microsoft needs to address it. Hoping everyone subscribes to Xbox Music and rebuilds new music collections is ridiculous, selfish, greedy, and unacceptable.

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[quote name='MorganX' timestamp='1359573438' post='595490502']
The biggest, and what makes this worthless IMO, synced playlists between Desktop and Surface RT, will not find all of the local files on the non-playlist originating device. This is with mirrored music libraries. This is critical with the absence of a Zune or iTunes like syncing piece of middleware combined with the abhorrent Modern UI for the music app and Modern UI system search which together make searching for music and creating playlists on Windows 8 and endeavor not worth the effort and frustration.



Don't make excuses for MS. And don't settle for less. It's abysmal that we have to go back to classic WMP Classic to sync and Windows Phone 8 on Windows 8. WMP Classic isn't even available on Windows RT.

This situation is simply and epic fail and Microsoft needs to address it. Hoping everyone subscribes to Xbox Music and rebuilds new music collections is ridiculous, selfish, greedy, and unacceptable.
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IIRC the way WMP manages sync is also primitive (it drops a XML file on the device root). :/ Can somebody confirm this is how it's being done with WP8+WMP?

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I use my music pass daily on my ATIV S. I don't have sync issues since my ATIV opens like a HD when plugged in. I just drag album folders into the Music folder. or movies into the Video folder. The only issue I have with WP8 music is sometimes albums I didn't download show up in my list.


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[quote name='BajiRav' timestamp='1359574724' post='595490542']
IIRC the way WMP manages sync is also primitive (it drops a XML file on the device root). :/ Can somebody confirm this is how it's being done with WP8+WMP?
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I don't mind, it works. If the Xbox Music App needed to do that I would be more than happy, I just want it to work.

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these problems are disappointing to hear about. MS needs to get their act together.

WP 7.5 was a tremendous update, I can't see how come the development team fell behind so much on WP8. Sure it is a little bit better, but it isn't as groundbreaking as WP 7.5 in terms of features and performance enhancement. Not to mention, 7.5 arrived early, and 8 was late, and all together a poor launch.

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There are no problems with it, but IMO, it's just a dumb app. It's not set out nicely, library is useless etc.

I like Nokia Music, but it's not rally much better TBH.

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MS has locked that thread ... [url="http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp8-wpmusic/master-list-of-issues-with-xbox-music-on-wp8/b1c64834-de43-4af6-8069-4626090289a3?page=43&tm=1361962471335&tab=AllReplies#tabs"]http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp8-wpmusic/master-list-of-issues-with-xbox-music-on-wp8/b1c64834-de43-4af6-8069-4626090289a3?page=43&tm=1361962471335&tab=AllReplies#tabs[/url]

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You can sync your music with WP8 O.o

Either by way of the W8 Metro app or the Desktop Sync Client.

In both cases, you can sync whatever you like :o

Personally I prefer manually managing my library, but they didn't remove Sync O.o

Double lastly, Windows Media Player can still sync to the device as though it were any MP3 player..

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[quote name='articuno1au' timestamp='1362024088' post='595548740']

Double lastly, Windows Media Player can still sync to the device as though it were any MP3 player..
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Windows Media Player classic is the only way to truly sync media a Windows Phone 8 with Windows 8. Of course it depends on one's definition of sync. Copying files from the desktop to the phone, is transfer, not sync. Syncing playlists, and having the songs in that playlist automatically copy to the phone and update as you change the playlist at the source is syncing. The windows phone apps is nothing more than a Modern UI file explorer. It does not "sync" per se.

Windows Media Player classic, from Windows 7 ::cough:: syncs music, video, and Media Center recordings with automatic conversion. The Windows Phone Modern App does nothing more than what File Explorer does, only slower due to the UI. I assume by Desktop Sync Client you mean Windows Media Player classic, or are you talking Windows 7?

I understand there is a shortage of developers everywhere. MS is recruiting developers for WP8 work. But I don't like their modus operandi of release and sell now, fix later.

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[quote name='MorganX' timestamp='1359583908' post='595490888']
I don't mind, it works. If the Xbox Music App needed to do that I would be more than happy, I just want it to work.
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**** it doesn't. :/ My wife bought a 920 (mine is in the mail :) ) and WMP sync is horrible. It is converting all m4a rips to wma even when I turned off the audio conversion and then it strips out all tags. So my only real option is the primitive Windows Phone desktop sync app. :(

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There are 23 songs I can't sync from my PC, I tried using the WMP sync, the WP3 sync through the libraries and then through the iTunes setting. Every time I get the code 80004005

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Is there a support site to find out when an album is going to be added to XBox Music? I was looking for the Stereophonics' newest album, Graffiti on the Train, and it hasn't shown up yet, yet their other albums are on there. And I thought it may take time for it to appear but Black Rebel Motorcycle Club's newest album came out a week after and it is on XBox Music. I understand that this is probably a rights issue, but given their other albums are on there and I didn't think they signed with another record label, you'd think it would be on there? But I could be wrong.

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I gave my WP8 to my sister who just broke her GS2, and went back to my WP7 launch device. I find a Samsung Focus from 2011 is a better phone than the new Nokia's, for one very specific reason - it plays my music.

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Really :o

I'm loving my Lumia, came from a Trophy 7 >.<

I'm not a huge music person, but it's all working nicely for me :)

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[quote name='MorganX' timestamp='1359573438' post='595490502']
The biggest, and what makes this worthless IMO, synced playlists between Desktop and Surface RT, will not find all of the local files on the non-playlist originating device. This is with mirrored music libraries. This is critical with the absence of a Zune or iTunes like syncing piece of middleware combined with the abhorrent Modern UI for the music app and Modern UI system search which together make searching for music and creating playlists on Windows 8 and endeavor not worth the effort and frustration.



Don't make excuses for MS. And don't settle for less. It's abysmal that we have to go back to classic WMP Classic to sync and Windows Phone 8 on Windows 8. WMP Classic isn't even available on Windows RT.

This situation is simply and epic fail and Microsoft needs to address it. Hoping everyone subscribes to Xbox Music and rebuilds new music collections is ridiculous, selfish, greedy, and unacceptable.

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I have a Lumia 920, a pc with win8 pro, a Samsung ativ smart pc pro, and an older laptop with win 8 pro and all devices sync perfectly fine with my xbox music sub and local files on all 4 devices. It really makes me wonder that people that write about xbox music having problems if they are really using the system.

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[quote name='korupt_one' timestamp='1365891840' post='595635820']


I have a Lumia 920, a pc with win8 pro, a Samsung ativ smart pc pro, and an older laptop with win 8 pro and all devices sync perfectly fine with my xbox music sub and local files on all 4 devices. It really makes me wonder that people that write about xbox music having problems if they are really using the system.
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I have no sub, and want no sub. And will not subscribe to see if that makes all local files work. I'm not sure why you would wonder if people are really using the system because they have problems you do not. Is this the first you've every experience this phenomena? Issues don't exist if korupt_one doesn't experience them? Are you serious? There are threads here and across the Internet with varying levels of non-function, I'm sure they'are all not really using the system and just making stuff up.

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I have a sub to xbox music,and the only real annoying problem im having is if I download songs from an album,i can delete them no problem,but the songs and album still show up in my list of songs and albums. I can then click the album or song and choose to redownload it,but I want to completely remove it so it doesn't show up.impossible.

my playlists from xbox music on surface synced fine to my wp8 devices,i had no problems there.

one last annoyance, sometimes if I use my sub on my surface or PC,and close the xbox music app,it wont let me use it on my wp8 device because "its in use on another device". takes 5 minutes sometimes before im able to use it.

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I get sooooooooooo frustrated with this app it's not even funny. Not even freaking usable!!! Just opened up an album I bought 3 tracks from... The WHOLE album has been downloaded twice, and I can only play the songs I purchased!

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Surprised more news/blogs haven't really got on Microsoft about this...

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[quote name='bguy_1986' timestamp='1367459821' post='595668346']
Surprised more news/blogs haven't really got on Microsoft about this...
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I think people have accepted that Modern UI apps aren't going to get better, any time soon, and have moved on.

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