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I used Opera browser for years as my primary browser until I came across SRWare Iron.


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[color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2][size=2]I still use Opera allot but seems that last couple upgrades have bogged down allot.[/size][/size][/font][/color]

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I can't go back to Opera. The website incompatibility is just killing me.

Facebook, Gmail, Twitter don't display correctly

All of those work just fine in Opera for me though. and whatever tiny little compatibility niggles there may be. I'd rather live with them than have to deal with all the other massive issues with other browsers. and most compatibility issues can be fixed by changing the user agent anyway, which can be added as a drop down to the UI.

Hey guys.

For some time now I've been fed up with Opera and it's problems. Random crashes during use, crashes when I close it, the sync after it closes takes forever, Facebook, Gmail, Twitter don't display correctly, and the once blazing speed is gone too. And now a new unknown problem and I can't even open or uninstall it because of a memory leak that eats all my memory to the point that Windows becomes unresponsive.

I'm looking for an alternative. I'm currently using IE10 and love love love the speed. Everything works too. But I've always used Opera because of:

-mouse gestures (mostly for refresh, new tab)

-being able to switch between tabs with my mouse (combination of holding down the right button and scrolling)

-various keyboard gestures (ctrl+space = homepage, ctrl+tab switching between tabs)

-now being able to use AdBlock is a big plus too

-SpeedDial! love the speed dial feature, but I want to populate the dials with pages of my choice not have the browser make some bogus list

Does anyone have any idea which browser might fit the bill? Most important features I'm looking for are a customizable speeddial, speed, website compatibility, adblock, mouse gestures and customizable keyboard shortcuts. Chrome? I hear Firefox is far from old glory aswell, IE10 is great when it comes to speed and website compatibility but no adblock, lame speeddial, no mouse gestures. Safari maybe?

Thanks!

PS HURRAH for auto content save. IE threw me a bogus connection error and I though I lost everything I wrote.

As soon as I read the title of this thread, I thought:

- Crashes.

Yes. Since Opera has started using Extensions, its stability has gone downhill.

As an avid Opera user, the other browser I can recommend you is Palemoon:

http://palemoon.org/

A Firefox deviation, but it can do well, except for the gesture part.

Honestly if you're used to Opera, there is no good alternative, Chrome doesn't measure up. FireFox, I tried it for 2+ months to see if I could use it instead of Opera after I got an issue on my other computer. it's slow compared to Opera, the 3rd party gestures, are.. well firstly third party and not as good. Annoying stuff like no grabbable border at the top when full screen. the horrible auto scrolling tab bar when lots of tabs, that can only be avoided to a certain degree. much more wasteful on the GUI space. requires a lot of extra extensions for stuff that should be built in, like an undo closed tab and closed tab list button. extension to open downloads and not save, and even then it sort of saves it first.

Then it's of course basic stuff like not remembering history to anywhere close to the degree of Opera, not fast forward and instant back, minimise tabs when click or cycle them in the order used(can "sort of" be fixed with extension).

so yeah, IF you're used to a proper advanced browser that just works and work well out of the box, there's no alternative.

Your problem probably stems from several upgrades on top of each other. clear out the opera folders, in user/appdata as well (opera folders in ll three sub folders there) as well as any opera folders under your normal user folder.

then do a full install and you should be up at full working order. and at full speed again as well.

You know, I'm also ****ed off with the fullscreen crap. But it can be fixed with an extension called: Fullscreen borders, which adds that little extra padding to the top window.

BTW, I agree with you in 100%. For making Opera to work normally again, it is strongly recommended to delete every trace of it on the system.

Wouldn't want to touch most of the computers used by people here anyway as most of them have crap fanboy junk on them. Would take to many days to fix!!

I can tell you right now all my devices are Opera - and thus crap fanboy junk - free.

As soon as I read the title of this thread, I thought:

- Crashes.

Yes. Since Opera has started using Extensions, its stability has gone downhill.

As an avid Opera user, the other browser I can recommend you is Palemoon:

http://palemoon.org/

A Firefox deviation, but it can do well, except for the gesture part.

You know, I'm also ****ed off with the fullscreen crap. But it can be fixed with an extension called: Fullscreen borders, which adds that little extra padding to the top window.

BTW, I agree with you in 100%. For making Opera to work normally again, it is strongly recommended to delete every trace of it on the system.

I just got bored of trying to hack away at another browser to make t work as well as opera does OOB, and never quite getting there. Better to just use Opera.

by the time I have something that "sort of" work as well as Opera, I have 20 extensions on the thing. and then there's an update and *poof*

I know this isn't an option for you, but I switched from Opera to Firefox to Chrome and haven't looked back,

You should look at Firefox and IE then, much better these days that the crap Goole keeps on putting in Chrome.

No crashing problems with opera here (I use it on my work computer because Chrome/Firefox/IE all have performance issues on this machine, but opera seems to run very smooth, on my other computers I usually use firefox). I haven't noticed issues with gmail or facebook either. Memory usage is rather high (right now its using ~400 mb of ram), but afiak its by design and not a "leak" because opera has an aggressive cache setting by default to make the instant back/forward feature work. you can turn off the automatic RAM cache and set it to whatever size you want.

Even on new profiles Opera as of late is the most crash prone browser in my arsenal. Chrome stable builds are generally stable, Firefox rarely crashes (its UI responsiveness is still poor other than on Windows XP, strangely) and IE10 tabs do occasionally crash but nothing that brings down the entire browser.

Opera is still a good tool on mobile devices where content compression helps with capped bandwidth plans. For desktop browsers, it's increasingly harder for me to continue justify using Opera. The browser's UI tends to hitch a lot, pages get weird repaint problems, browser slows to a crawl on startup, if you've got tons of bookmarks and Speed Dials, and of course the crashes. It still has the best back/forward navigation of any browser. But the negatives outweight the pros.

So as of now, IE10 is more or less my default browser. And only starting from IE10. I couldn't get used to any previous IE versions before that. IE10 though was the first to render and scroll pages smoothly, and more importantly, not kick my laptop fan into high gear each time a page loads (which Chrome tended to do). Chrome's still there as a backup browser for the sites that don't work well in IE10 and those completely overrun with ads. There still isn't a decent free adblock solution on IE10. The one I tried caused DEP to kick in multiple times. I'm currently using Fanboy's tracking filters which are passable for simple sites.

The current version of Opera for me can only handle 1 tab at a time... if not it will be so laggy and crashes.

Anyway, I jumped over to Chrome for a brief period and installed plenty of extensions and it ended up very slow for me as well. I hate the 1 tab per process.... Installed more than 10 extensions and you should know the amount of memory leaks.

Currently IE10 is the fastest for me W8 laptop(my laptop was purchased during 2008). However Firefox is my default browser though.

Hey guys, I' ve immersed myself in Chome for the past few days and I'm sticking with it, for now. It works great with all the websites I use, it's really fast, adblock works like a treat, it's stable - even the canary version (atleast for me). Couple of sticking points though. From the top of my head:

- I use an extension for mouse gestures and it works pretty good. Though when I open Speed Dial (another extension) I can't close it with a gesture, Doesn't treat it like a tab. Which means I have to use the keyboard.

- The Speed Dial itself is much more powerful than the one in Opera, but there's a minuscule lag every time I open a new tab and it shows up. Not a big lag, but still annoying.

- Tab management is idiotic in Chome. Ctrl+Tab cycles all tabs not just between the most recent two, and I'm SOOO missing my rightclick+scroll tab list that's present in Opera. Can't believe no one made an extension for that yet. Hate using my keyboard for just browsing.

-No quick access to closed tabs (ctrl+shift+t brings up just the last closed that, won't say it's usless but I could do with more)

Little things that worked great in Opera and I grew fond of them. Not quite deal breakers though. Haven't had time yet to install the Toolbox, will do toight. If anyone has any other good pointers how to correct any of the aforementioned problems, please share.

Thanks!

Chrome is one of those crap things that would be a part of why it would take days to fix those machines!!

Most problems I see get caused by IE and it's crappy management of plugins. Since it's been released I've only had to fix one computer in which the owner had a problem with Chrome, and even then the problem was that her profile somehow got corrupted. I used Opera for 5 years and loved it, but in the end too many things just didn't work well enough in it for my liking and I switched over to Chrome. And surprisingly, despite people's fearmongering I'm 3 years into my use of Chrome and Google haven't stolen any of my data yet :o

Most problems I see get caused by IE and it's crappy management of plugins. Since it's been released I've only had to fix one computer in which the owner had a problem with Chrome, and even then the problem was that her profile somehow got corrupted. I used Opera for 5 years and loved it, but in the end too many things just didn't work well enough in it for my liking and I switched over to Chrome. And surprisingly, despite people's fearmongering I'm 3 years into my use of Chrome and Google haven't stolen any of my data yet :o

My main issue with Opera was page rendering. Always one of my favorite sites wouldn't work with Opera and their answer was always "email the developer and tell him to make his site standards compliant." That's fine in a imaginary world but doesn't work in the real world. In the real world it just has to work.

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