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#361 Dot Matrix

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:41

Really, it clutters up the Start Menu? It is in a nice folder so it is not IN YOUR FACE all the time. With the Start Screen, you have to MANUALLY remove the stuff it pins to the Start Screen. The Start Menu showing only what 5 most recent programs by default is much better than having your 30" monitor completely filled with crap until you MANUALLY remove it from there. Then the All Apps portion of the Start Screen is ridiculous as well. The Start Menu had things in folders, sub-folders, and maybe sub-sub-folders. NICE.....ORGANIZED.....SYSTEM.


Wow. Clicking "unpin" takes all but two seconds, and the tiles are gone forever, you'll never have to see them again. That's not a broken system, that's the power of user customization.

Perhaps because of this one developer (out of millions), Microsoft should go back to a user uncustomizable OS? Maybe like Windows 95?

Okay, just did a search for the post I was sure I would find. Couldn't find it so if I'm wrong I apologise.

I still seem to remember you saying that the mouse is going to be obsolete in a future Windows environment. This was in another thread not this one. The search functions here leave a lot to be desired IMO.


To me, the mouse isn't king anymore. With new technologies around the corner, I don't see it lasting much longer.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:43

Dot will fight till the day he dies, saying Win8 is the best thing ever guy's, you ain't gonna win any argument with him, unfortunately :) He will come back, repeatedly, with nonsense he believes in, regardless of what one thinks otherwise. I tired of it ages ago. ;)

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:48

To me, the mouse isn't king anymore. With new technologies around the corner, I don't see it lasting much longer.


See what I mean? Honestly? lol :laugh:

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:50

To me, the mouse isn't king anymore. With new technologies around the corner, I don't see it lasting much longer.


So you admit that everyone will need to get rid of their current systems just to purchase a lovely touch screen?

Not going to happen here.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:52

The Start Screen is a user interface designed for casual use, information consumption, small screens and a touch interface. While those are all great things for tablet users, it's not for anyone doing serious work on the desktop.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:53

Yeah I do not understand why he thinks the mouse will go away....

Anyway, it is like talking to a brick wall. He says the Start Screen is better in every way.....but then says I need to select Unpin.....The Start Menu did not require this....so how is the start screen "better in EVERY way" if I need to unpin every time I install something? Or spend 10-20 minutes organizing things?

I do not have that kind of time. The Start Menu was neatly organized and I NEVER.....NEVER had to do ANYTHING to mess with the organization of the Start Menu.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:54

So you admit that everyone will need to get rid of their current systems just to purchase a lovely touch screen?

Not going to happen here.


Not now, no. But 20 years down the line, it's almost guaranteed we'll be using something different along with our keyboards.

Yeah I do not understand why he thinks the mouse will go away....


Because technology evolves, and depreciates. That mouse your cradling? Yeah, that too will depreciate (and has already begun to), just like the CLI did before it, and just like punch cards did before that.

I do not have that kind of time.


Yet, you have the time to be on here.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:06

Not now, no. But 20 years down the line, it's almost guaranteed we'll be using something different along with our keyboards.


20 years? lol.

Well, I'll be dead by then, but then, we can all say most things will be vastly different in that time, I suppose, maybe.

How far have we come since 1993? (20 years ago)

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:22

20 years? lol.

Well, I'll be dead by then, but then, we can all say most things will be vastly different in that time, I suppose, maybe.

How far have we come since 1993? (20 years ago)


You and me both. :D
Sweet that it won't affect me then.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:25

You and me both. :D
Sweet that it won't affect me then.


Yeah. Kid's these days buddy, honestly! :rolleyes: :)

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:27

****ty third party app development isn't Microsoft's fault. That same crap that clutters the Start Screen, clutters the Start Menu as well, but somehow that is OK? If you want to be mad, be mad at Nero. Ask them to clean up their act, because Microsoft can't control that.

Please come back when you have a better argument.


****ty 3rd party app development??? The start screen sucks up shortcuts meant for the "Start Menu" from any application that is not made for the modern UI, which is EVERY WINDOWS APPLICATION MADE BEFORE WINDOWS 8!! That's a lot of ****ty 3rd party app developers!

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:32

****ty 3rd party development.??? The start screen sucks up shortcuts meant for the "Start Menu" from any application that is not made for the modern UI, which is EVERY WINDOWS APP MADE BEFORE WINDOWS 8!!


Agreed. So a program in Windows 7 is perfectly fine, but in Windows 8 they are considered crappy 3rd party developers?

So if I wanted to install an old program, it will suddenly be "crappy third party developers"? It is Microsoft's job when creating an OS where they change something, to make the existing installers work well with the new system.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:36

****ty 3rd party app development??? The start screen sucks up shortcuts meant for the "Start Menu" from any application that is not made for the modern UI, which is EVERY WINDOWS APPLICATION MADE BEFORE WINDOWS 8!! At the CES 2010 Steve Ballmer said that more than 4 million apps were available for the Windows Platform.... That's a lot of ****ty 3rd party app developers!


The only icons to be directly placed on the Start Screen will be the application's corresponding EXE shortcuts. I don't know what kind of cruddy apps you're using that is supposedly barfing up icons all over the place, but the few that I still use, don't do that, and as you can see a few posts, above Office 2010 didn't clutter my screen either.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:41

The only icons to be directly placed on the Start Screen will be the application's corresponding EXE shortcuts. I don't know what kind of cruddy apps you're using that is supposedly barfing up icons all over the place, but the few that I still use, don't do that, and as you can see a few posts, above Office 2010 didn't clutter my screen either.


They also don't look like Windows Modern Tiles, so while it's only "Exe Shortcuts" it looks like crap!

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:44

What is your excuse about the All Apps section? I have seen readme's shortcuts to websites, and other things in there. With Windows 7, they were all neatly tucked away in folders. Some programs put it in a sub-folder labeled Additional Resources. But.....now they are always visible when I go to All Apps.



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