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So today I dared installing Ubuntu + Steam for Linux...(Warning: tears)


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#46 _Alexander

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 18:48

View PostViperAFK, on 17 February 2013 - 18:47, said:



valve's linux games are native ports using opengl.
I am not talking about Valve games, aside from the "very poor" comment.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.


#47 redvamp128

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 18:51

View Post_Alexander, on 17 February 2013 - 18:42, said:

Aren't they going to release other games via wrappers or something?
Offerings ATM are very poor.
This is the only thing that I have read.
The wrappers as stated above are to grab the necessary files needed to run the game- the libraries each game depends on.

the only thing I read about that was a comment that iD has said that improving Wine would be easier than re-coding older games.
http://steamforlinux.../?q=en/node/165

But as far as I have seen is that some of those older games already had OpenGL .

Though one would really have to wait about 1 year after official release to see if there is a lot games.

That and - the offerings ... are for now on quality... working out the kinks... then adding some new ones.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 18:52

To the OP, I had no problems whatsoever installing Ubuntu with WUBI, so I'm sorry you went through that pain. I have not tried to install the Steam 64-bit in Ubuntu, though, since I don't have a whole lot of interest in Steam on Linux (unless at some point the entire Steam library runs on it through WINE or whatever with Steam doing all the work to configure it and me not having to do anything more than launch the game). Thanks for the heads up, though, I may have tried it just out of curiosity.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 22:16

I actually just did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and tested installing/running steam there. In 12.10 at least everything seems to work perfectly. I opened the software center, installed steam automagically with no issues, and played some tf2. I was surprised how well tf2 played on this laptop's integrated ivybridge graphics too, I was getting 60 fps on a mix of med/low.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 22:39

View PostViperAFK, on 18 February 2013 - 22:16, said:

I actually just did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and tested installing/running steam there. In 12.10 at least everything seems to work perfectly. I opened the software center, installed steam automagically with no issues, and played some tf2. I was surprised how well tf2 played on this laptop's integrated ivybridge graphics too, I was getting 60 fps on a mix of med/low.

Try it with ATI moble graphics and you will regret wasteing your time. I tried to get everything working on my laptop with a fairly high end ATI moble chip and the video drivers from ATI choaked every time they tried to run, same went for the drivers from the Ubuntu repos. I managed to get TF2 running without them and the game was totaly unplayable but I did manage to get the free Tux addon.

Oh yea and this is a HP business class notebook advertised as supporting Linux and according to AMD/ATI the chipset is supported in linux yet no one has yet been able to make there broken drivers work, you just have to love the idiots at AMD.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 22:41

View PostDot Matrix, on 17 February 2013 - 14:32, said:

So what you're saying is... it's "this giant sadness" ;)

LOL... and all this over a hat

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 22:43

View PostViperAFK, on 18 February 2013 - 22:16, said:

I actually just did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and tested installing/running steam there. In 12.10 at least everything seems to work perfectly. I opened the software center, installed steam automagically with no issues, and played some tf2. I was surprised how well tf2 played on this laptop's integrated ivybridge graphics too, I was getting 60 fps on a mix of med/low.
I actually forgot to say I installed not Ubuntu 12.04 like written in the steam discussion but 12.10. The problem appears to be on both. I tried again just a few minutes ago (after, of course, checking for updates), same result:
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Did you happen to install 32bit Ubuntu? Or did you install Steam before updating the distro?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 23:00

View PostZippo7, on 18 February 2013 - 22:39, said:

Try it with ATI moble graphics and you will regret wasteing your time. I tried to get everything working on my laptop with a fairly high end ATI moble chip and the video drivers from ATI choaked every time they tried to run, same went for the drivers from the Ubuntu repos. I managed to get TF2 running without them and the game was totaly unplayable but I did manage to get the free Tux addon.

Oh yea and this is a HP business class notebook advertised as supporting Linux and according to AMD/ATI the chipset is supported in linux yet no one has yet been able to make there broken drivers work, you just have to love the idiots at AMD.

View Postfrancescob, on 18 February 2013 - 22:43, said:

I actually forgot to say I installed not Ubuntu 12.04 like written in the steam discussion but 12.10. The problem appears to be on both. I tried again just a few minutes ago (after, of course, checking for updates), same result:
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Did you happen to install 32bit Ubuntu? Or did you install Steam before updating the distro?

thats definitely pretty odd. I was able to do a totally clean install of 12.10 64-bit on my laptop, and I was able to go right into the software center and install it with zero errors... No idea why it wouldn't work for you. I installed steam after installing all ubuntu updates.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 23:03

View PostViperAFK, on 18 February 2013 - 23:00, said:

thats pretty odd. I just did a totally clean install of 12.10 on my laptop, and I was able to go right into the software center and install it with zero errors... No idea why it wouldn't work for you.
Maybe Ubuntu pulled some updates that were causing trouble? I made sure I installed all the updates before attempting to install Steam. Also the issue is only on x64 builds, if you have x86 Ubuntu Steam should install effortlessly.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 23:08

View Postfrancescob, on 18 February 2013 - 23:03, said:

Maybe Ubuntu pulled some updates that were causing trouble? I made sure I installed all the updates before attempting to install Steam. Also the issue is only on x64 builds, if you have x86 Ubuntu Steam should install effortlessly.

I installed all updates before doing so (and edited my post to reflect that and that I installed 64-bit)

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 23:09

This seems to be just an attempt at a flame war.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 23:41

View PostViperAFK, on 18 February 2013 - 23:08, said:

I installed all updates before doing so (and edited my post to reflect that and that I installed 64-bit)
I tried again and also cleared all the apt cache to make sure it wasn't reusing the same steam package but still the same result. Maybe they really pulled some updates that were causing this or maybe the software center was doing something required for the install but it didn't complete since it crashed. I'll wait for a couple of days and then if they don't fix it I'll just install x86 and try there.

View PostKreuger, on 18 February 2013 - 23:09, said:

This seems to be just an attempt at a flame war.
It's clearly a conspiracy. The digital bits of the hats were wearing out due to excessive downloading and Valve had to intervene to avoid running out of digital copies of the hat that would have been our sole defense against the invasion of some crazy fish aliens from space mortally afraid of penguins.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 23:50

I tried again today but Steam 64 has disappeared from the store. WTF?