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[quote][url="http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130221a_e.pdf"]http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/rele.../130221a_e.pdf[/url]

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[color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Single chip custom processor[/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]8 Jaguar cores x86 CPU[/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]1.84 Teraflops GPU (18CU)[/font][/color]


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The GPU contains a unified array of 18 compute units, which collectively generate 1.84 Teraflops of processing power that can freely be applied to graphics, simulation tasks, or some mixture of the two.
8GB GDDR5 176GB/s unified [/font][/color]

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[b]Immediate Gameplay[/b][/font][/color]

[color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] PS4 radically reduces the lag time between players and their content. PS4 features

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I'll wait for E3 I guess..

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Looks like the leaked specs were on the money then. So tired stayed up till past 2am watching the Giantbomb coverage of the event.

I am so excited, gone is the arrogant "this is how its going to be, Sony knows best" Sony and in with the new "what developers want, what gamers want" Sony.

Not interested in sharing video clips but the potential is amazing, being able to spectate and even give control of your game over to someone else is amazing, being able to try EVERY PS4 game instantly without downloading multiple gigabytes is mind blowing.

If I'm honest the graphics were a little underwhelming, I haven't seen any proper screenshots yet only compressed video so that may change.

I am also a little worried about the GDDR5, the leaked specs said 4Gb and I think the reason they didn't show off the console today was that the 8Gb change was in response to Durango 8Gb which means having to redesign the whole console to fit the memory into it.

Can't wait for E3 now and depending on price I am probably going to get one on day one.
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[quote name='TheLegendOfMart' timestamp='1361437794' post='595534104']
Can't wait for E3 now and depending on price I am probably going to get one on day one.
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Likewise, (cost dependent)

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[quote name='TheLegendOfMart' timestamp='1361437794' post='595534104']
If I'm honest the graphics were a little underwhelming, I haven't seen any proper screenshots yet only compressed video so that may change.
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Yeah, that feed isn't really much to go on.

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[quote name='TheLegendOfMart' timestamp='1361437794' post='595534104']
Looks like the leaked specs were on the money then. So tired stayed up till past 2am watching the Giantbomb coverage of the event.

I am so excited, gone is the arrogant "this is how its going to be, Sony knows best" Sony and in with the new "what developers want, what gamers want" Sony.

Not interested in sharing video clips but the potential is amazing, being able to spectate and even give control of your game over to someone else is amazing, being able to try EVERY PS4 game instantly without downloading multiple gigabytes is mind blowing.

If I'm honest [u][b]the graphics were a little underwhelming[/b][/u], I haven't seen any proper screenshots yet only compressed video so that may change.

I am also a little [u][b]worried about the GDDR5, the leaked specs said 4Gb and I think the reason they didn't show off the console today[/b][/u] was that the 8Gb change was in response to Durango 8Gb which means having to redesign the whole console to fit the memory into it.

Can't wait for E3 now and depending on price I am probably going to get one on day one.
[/quote] I don't think this has anything at all to do with it, never put all your eggs in one basket (save something for E3).

Graphics underwhelming? looks great to me.
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It looks 'great', not the kind of leap I was expecting but I suppose at this stage we are getting diminishing returns. I was hoping something more along the lines of deep down but that didn't look like gameplay in the slightest.

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[quote name='TheLegendOfMart' timestamp='1361442725' post='595534190']
It looks 'great', not the kind of leap I was expecting but I suppose at this stage we are getting diminishing returns. I was hoping something more along the lines of deep down but that didn't look like gameplay in the slightest.
[/quote]Most likely we'll see the same leap later in the generation, remember the launch titles of the 360 compared to now? :rofl:

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Graphics are totally underwhelming and a complete let down. Hopefully we will see better stuff soon.

I am not easily pleased. I found even Crysis 3's graphics a bit meh.

Watch dogs... hmm we are on right path.

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I was really surprised at the specs. Pretty much developers have been saying we want more ram and Sony has delivered that. Also their Social platform sounds very nice. I like the idea of broadcasting on ustream. I think a lot of us have always wanted to do this but never could afford or work out what kind of hardware they would need to do this.

I guess we'll have to wait till e3 to see some tech demos running real time and being controlled in real time. They had guys on stage with a controller but was that guy really controlling Killzone?

My only real disappointment was that backwards compatibility is gone in favour of Gaikai cloud service because it may be lag free but we have to rely on Sony to have the service stable and them to have that particular game available. Another thing, they never mentioned pricing on anything. How many of these services are going to be free?

Overall though, i was very impressed compared to the PS3 announcement/launch, it seems they've learnt a lot of lessons from the PS3. To be honest though they could have drop kicked a box with PS4 wrote on it and it would have been better.

They've laid down the gauntlet to Microsoft and now they must top that. Which i can't work out how Microsoft will.

Did anyone else groan at the DIablo 3 announcement? :laugh:

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[quote name='Lingwo' timestamp='1361445313' post='595534222']
My only real disappointment was that backwards compatibility is gone
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It's to be expected considering the complete architecture change.

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I sure hope game prices do not go up. What would people do if games are say $100 each ? How much rescources will a developer need to make games for these new systems? The more I see the graphics for these new consoles the more I see a new video games crash coming. Who will buy games if they are so expensive?

$500 for a console and $80 for each game? I cant afford that.

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I don't think game prices will go up, some developers have said that there won't be increased costs.

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I just hope I can still use my PS3 Pulse Elite Headphones with this new system :)

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[quote name='shakey' timestamp='1361460953' post='595534588']
I just hope I can still use my PS3 Pulse Elite Headphones with this new system :)
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are those the bluetooth ones? if so I'd imagine they would still work, would also be nice if the dualshock 3s worked as well (at least with games that do not make use of the touchpad)

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[quote name='TheLegendOfMart' timestamp='1361447836' post='595534248']
I don't think game prices will go up, some developers have said that there won't be increased costs.
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LOL. Good one. Won't be increased costs for MAKING the games but you can damn well bet on that prices for games will go up.

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[quote name='TheLegendOfMart' timestamp='1361445793' post='595534230']
It's to be expected considering the complete architecture change.
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the early games on any new console are never a gigantic leap from the previous gen. it takes devs [u]years[/u] to refine the graphics. look at the Uncharted series as just one example.
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[quote name='ahhell' timestamp='1361461786' post='595534616']
LOL. Good one. Won't be increased costs for MAKING the games but you can damn well bet on that prices for games will go up.
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Why would they, they didn't from ps2 to ps3???

[quote name='Jdawg683' timestamp='1361461926' post='595534622']
the early games on any new console are never a gigantic leap from the previous gen. it takes devs [u]years[/u] to refine the graphics. look at the Uncharted series as just one example.
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Yes I know but the leap from PS2 to PS3 was far bigger.

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Damn I can't wait. I want one!

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[quote name='TheLegendOfMart' timestamp='1361462316' post='595534630']
Why would they, they didn't from ps2 to ps3???



Yes I know but the leap from PS2 to PS3 was far bigger.
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Activision wasn't as powerful and as domineering as it is now. My guess is $64.99 for games....possibly higher.

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Activision don't dictate the minimum RRP, they did it with PS3 this generation but no one else followed suit.

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yea, I really can't see games prices going higher. I mean they've been higher in the past so they seem to be at a sweet spot really.

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So looks like specs are not final yet? This was a really weird "announcement" TBH.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/sony-playstation-4-pricing-specs-not-final/

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[quote name='shakey' timestamp='1361460953' post='595534588']
I just hope I can still use my PS3 Pulse Elite Headphones with this new system :)
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It'll work. Since it uses a USB dongle, it'll plug right into the PS4 and function. You can bet that Sony will have a NEW headset, though, to plug into the PS4's DS4 port at the bottom of the controller. I'm fine with my Pulse, though. I love 'em!

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psh, I was expecting PS4 to be a real time ray traced graphics system :rolleyes: :rofl:
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To visualize the GPU performance in terms of TFLOP/s only (current prices from [url="http://www.scan.co.uk"]Scan[/url]):

0.69 TFLOP/s - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti (

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