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I have a Logitech Wave today, its ok i guess, but i know there are a lot better.

I have heard lots of good things about Cherry mx blue, brown and red.

I need the Keyboard for 1.Typing 2.typing 3.gaming.
I dont want it to sound all too loud.
But i want a definite feel when i am typing, i want to feel a soothing difference between my logitech wave and my new one.

Price? 100-170$

Must be avalible in sweden, so ducky, cm, steelseries, qpad, logitech, daskeyborad, are ok.

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I think black switches are okay for that....

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I use a buckling spring Model M for typing myself but as far as Cherry:

MX Black: Best for gaming, linear, quietest.
MX Blue: Best for typing, tactile, loudest type.
MX Brown: Middle ground, tactile, ok for gaming and typing.

There are also MX Reds which are lighter than the black switches; some people prefer them for gaming but they wouldn't be very good for typing.

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[quote name='TRC' timestamp='1364037533' post='595593602']
I use a buckling spring Model M for typing myself but as far as Cherry:

MX Black: Best for gaming, linear, quietest.
MX Blue: Best for typing, tactile, loudest type.
MX Brown: Middle ground, tactile, ok for gaming and typing.

There are also MX Reds which are lighter than the black switches; some people prefer them for gaming.
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I have been reading, and I now know that i want either the brown or the reds.
I type all the time, and i dont play games that often, maybe once a week at the most.

What i am looking for is the "feel" in my typing, but i dont want it to sound all that loud.
Suggestions?

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[quote name='dattuz' timestamp='1364037961' post='595593606']
I have been reading, and I now know that i want either the brown or the reds.
I type all the time, and i dont play games that often, maybe once a week at the most.

What i am looking for is the "feel" in my typing, but i dont want it to sound all that loud.
Suggestions?
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I think you would definitely want brown switches then. MX Red are extremely light and have no tactile feedback; you wouldn't want them to type on imo.

You can find Youtube videos of each type and listen to them to get an idea of how loud they are.

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I think you would definitely want brown switches then. MX Red are extremely light and have no tactile feedback; you wouldn't want them to type on imo.

You can find Youtube videos of each type and listen to them to get an idea of how loud they are.
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Thanks man, appreciate your answers, have a good one.

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My favourite typing keyboard is the dinovo edge. Waaay too expensive for what it is, but it feels sooo good to type on. In fact, I've had two, but I killed them both with spilled drinks. Quite quiet, good feel to the keys, the board itself is very low profile (flat). Looks the business, in my opinion.

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Purchase the mechanical keyswitch sample set: [url="http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/sampler-kit-1.html"]http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/sampler-kit-1.html[/url]

You'll then know what type of switch you want.

Personally, I like Cherry MX Blues the most, they're just[i] very[/i] loud.

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I have Cherry MX Blues. Loud is relative, they do sound like a typewriter, but I have it at home, and it doesn't bother me.

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I have Cherry MX Blues myself, and I like them. As others have said, they're pretty loud though. They have a nice feel due to the tactile bump but you can get that with tactile switches anyway, so it isn't much of a selling point. The actuation force is worth considering, since you might like a softer or a stiffer switch. The general consensus I've seen is that Brown switches are the best blend for typing and gaming on, but if you're typing more than gaming it's worth a second thought. Despite the idea certain switches are better for gaming than others, you can game on any switch but you'll just have to get used to how it feels. [i]However[/i], I have heard people to say the Brown switch feels 'grainy'. Never used one so I don't know, but I have heard the criticism raised before. People I know with Brown switches seem happy enough so don't take this as concrete evidence.

The CMStorm QuickFire Rapids are extremely popular at the moment, and for good reason. They're a nice price and they're meant to be very good quality, plus they come in a lot of switch varieties. Despite being a gaming keyboard they're not overly shouty. They used to be covered in branding but the newer models aren't. The only thing is that the keycaps still aren't the most professional looking of things, but that shouldn't sway your opinion too much. If you need a numerical pad, there's the QuickFire Pro as well. The two are meant to use different OEMs and some people [i]claim[/i] the Pro to be of a lower quality than the Rapid because of it. I can't confirm or deny either way. To me it's just a rumor.

Getting the right layout might be a problem, though. Looking online the letters seem near enough to QWERTY so if you were a touch-typist you could just buy a QWERTY board and run with it, I guess. That means you could consider Leopold keyboards as well. [url="http://getdigital.de"]getDigital.de[/url] stock the FC200R keyboard and the Filco Majestouch-2. In my experience the folks at getDigital have been absolutely top-notch with their service (I've reviewed a Das Keyboard and a Matias Tactile Pro through them).

/r/MechanicalKeyboards also has the [url="http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/nordic_shopping_guide"]Nordic shopping guide[/url], so it would seem you could also get a Corsair K-Series board amongst others. They're a bit more gamer-y, but again, their appearance shouldn't be too much of a problem unless you're planning to use this in a workplace. Neowin's own Tim Schiesser reviewed the K90 around this time last year and was impressed by it. That's encouraging.

In my honest opinion you'll want Brown switches as well. They're not as loud as the Blues, but they take less force to activate as well. It might be the best all-rounder for your needs.

Good luck finding the keyboard that's right for you!
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G710+

Brown switches

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I'm using a SteelSeries 6Gv2 with black switches, it's been great so far for gaming and typing

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[quote name='Paul Ferson' timestamp='1364043496' post='595593668']/r/MechanicalKeyboards also has the [url="http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/nordic_shopping_guide"]Nordic shopping guide[/url], so it would seem you could also get a Corsair K-Series board amongst others. They're a bit more gamer-y, but again, their appearance shouldn't be too much of a problem unless you're planning to use this in a workplace. Neowin's own Tim Schiesser reviewed the K90 around this time last year and was impressed by it. That's encouraging.[/quote]
Corsair has two upgrades coming very soon, the K70 and K95. As you said, could be a good choice for the gamer. But as with many mechanical keyboards, they cost more.
[url="http://www.corsair.com/k70"]http://www.corsair.com/k70[/url]
[url="http://www.corsair.com/k95"]http://www.corsair.com/k95[/url]

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[quote name='Buio' timestamp='1364051934' post='595593820']

Corsair has two upgrades coming very soon, the K70 and K95. As you said, could be a good choice for the gamer. But as with many mechanical keyboards, they cost more.
[url="http://www.corsair.com/k70"]http://www.corsair.com/k70[/url]
[url="http://www.corsair.com/k95"]http://www.corsair.com/k95[/url]
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I think im going for the filco actually, they seem pretty good..
My experience After reading:
Black: like red but more stiff
Blue: too loud but best for typing
Red: like black but lighter with pressing.
Brown: like blue but not so loud, not The same feel.
White or clear: pretty unobtainable..

Seems like im going for The Brown ones. The blue ones seems to be too loud..

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[quote name='dattuz' timestamp='1364069354' post='595594152']
I think im going for the filco actually, they seem pretty good..
My experience After reading:
Black: like red but more stiff
Blue: too loud but best for typing
Red: like black but lighter with pressing.
Brown: like blue but not so loud, not The same feel.
White or clear: pretty unobtainable..

Seems like im going for The Brown ones. The blue ones seems to be too loud..
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I have a Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja and I couldn't be happier - good luck with your new keyboard :)

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[url="http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1076015-corsair-vengeance-k90-performance-mechanical-gaming-keyboard/"]http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1076015-corsair-vengeance-k90-performance-mechanical-gaming-keyboard/[/url]

^ I'm still very pleased with this keyboard.

Certainly worth a look :) Also, regardless if that's the keyboard for you, this is worth a look: http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide

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[quote name='Paul Ferson' timestamp='1364043496' post='595593668']
I have Cherry MX Blues myself, and I like them. As others have said, they're pretty loud though. They have a nice feel due to the tactile bump but you can get that with tactile switches anyway, so it isn't much of a selling point. The actuation force is worth considering, since you might like a softer or a stiffer switch. The general consensus I've seen is that Brown switches are the best blend for typing and gaming on, but if you're typing more than gaming it's worth a second thought. Despite the idea certain switches are better for gaming than others, you can game on any switch but you'll just have to get used to how it feels. [i]However[/i], I have heard people to say the Brown switch feels 'grainy'. Never used one so I don't know, but I have heard the criticism raised before. People I know with Brown switches seem happy enough so don't take this as concrete evidence.

The CMStorm QuickFire Rapids are extremely popular at the moment, and for good reason. They're a nice price and they're meant to be very good quality, plus they come in a lot of switch varieties. Despite being a gaming keyboard they're not overly shouty. They used to be covered in branding but the newer models aren't. The only thing is that the keycaps still aren't the most professional looking of things, but that shouldn't sway your opinion too much. If you need a numerical pad, there's the QuickFire Pro as well. The two are meant to use different OEMs and some people [i]claim[/i] the Pro to be of a lower quality than the Rapid because of it. I can't confirm or deny either way. To me it's just a rumor.

Getting the right layout might be a problem, though. Looking online the letters seem near enough to QWERTY so if you were a touch-typist you could just buy a QWERTY board and run with it, I guess. That means you could consider Leopold keyboards as well. [url="http://getdigital.de"]getDigital.de[/url] stock the FC200R keyboard and the Filco Majestouch-2. In my experience the folks at getDigital have been absolutely top-notch with their service (I've reviewed a Das Keyboard and a Matias Tactile Pro through them).

/r/MechanicalKeyboards also has the [url="http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/nordic_shopping_guide"]Nordic shopping guide[/url], so it would seem you could also get a Corsair K-Series board amongst others. They're a bit more gamer-y, but again, their appearance shouldn't be too much of a problem unless you're planning to use this in a workplace. Neowin's own Tim Schiesser reviewed the K90 around this time last year and was impressed by it. That's encouraging.

In my honest opinion you'll want Brown switches as well. They're not as loud as the Blues, but they take less force to activate as well. It might be the best all-rounder for your needs.

Good luck finding the keyboard that's right for you!
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Thanks for your advice. It helped me a lot in my decision.
I ordered a [color=#000000][font=arial][size=3]Filco Ninja Majestouch-2, Tenkeyless, NKR, Tactile Action, Keyboard with Cherry brown mx.[/size][/font][/color]
Also with red ninja wasd and esc buttons, and a lether thingy you put your wrists on when typing.

Thanks for all your help, always great to be here :)

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[quote name='dattuz' timestamp='1364083290' post='595594412']
Thanks for your advice. It helped me a lot in my decision.
I ordered a [color=#000000][font=arial][size=3]Filco Ninja Majestouch-2, Tenkeyless, NKR, Tactile Action, Keyboard with Cherry brown mx.[/size][/font][/color]
Also with red ninja wasd and esc buttons, and a lether thingy you put your wrists on when typing.

Thanks for all your help, always great to be here :)
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Filco boards are meant to be fantastic mate. Enjoy it! Lots and lots of people call Filco the king of the mechanical keyboard market and I hope you have a good experience with yours. I love the Ninja side-printing on the keys, so good choice. The leather wrist rests are meant to be quite nice too, though I've never used one. This thing should be good for years of service, so it's a quality investment - and also a fantastic choice, going by what I've read. (Y)

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[quote name='Buio' timestamp='1364051934' post='595593820']
Corsair has two upgrades coming very soon, the K70 and K95. As you said, could be a good choice for the gamer. But as with many mechanical keyboards, they cost more.
[url="http://www.corsair.com/k70"]http://www.corsair.com/k70[/url]
[url="http://www.corsair.com/k95"]http://www.corsair.com/k95[/url]
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Interesting, that K70. I'm not too fussed about the K60/90's dome keys for the Fx and Insert/Home/End/etc keys but I can understand why others would like to have a fully mechanical set. Keyboard lighting and a palm rest are nice plusses (the latter is easily fixable with a 3M gel pad).

Other than that, this is still a good keyboard, and only now did I just find out that they fixed the annoying repeating key issue for the K60/90. What's weird about the red switches is that these ones make no clicky feedback, yet the cheap Azio keyboard I got for a friend claims to have Cherry MX Red switches much like this yet it has clicky feedback. :ermm:

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Hello,

I have a [url=http://www.rosewill.com/products/1811/ProductDetail_Overview.htm]Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard RK-9000RE[/url], which uses Cherry MX Red keyswitches on my home PC. Rosewill is the house brand of U.S. computer part retailer NewEgg, however, I did find the keyboard available on [url=http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-RK-9000RE/dp/B005QW1UBU]Amazon.Com[/url] for $75.00 USD, which may make it available to you in Sweden.

The layout of the keyboard is the standard American QWERTY and is standard size. The casing it a bit slimmer then a standard keyboards, as is often the case with gaming keyboards. The keyboard has a USB Micro-B connector on the back, and comes with both USB and PS/2 cables that are a little under 2m, I think.

There are no special features or customizations, unless you count blue LEDs for NumLock, CapsLock and ScrollLock indicators as a feature.

Like you, my main use of the keyboard has been for writing with some occasional gaming. It has been a solid performer in this regard.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky

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[quote name='goretsky' timestamp='1364113430' post='595594882']
Hello,

I have a [url="http://www.rosewill.com/products/1811/ProductDetail_Overview.htm"]Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard RK-9000RE[/url], which uses Cherry MX Red keyswitches on my home PC. Rosewill is the house brand of U.S. computer part retailer NewEgg, however, I did find the keyboard available on [url="http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-RK-9000RE/dp/B005QW1UBU"]Amazon.Com[/url] for $75.00 USD, which may make it available to you in Sweden.

The layout of the keyboard is the standard American QWERTY and is standard size. The casing it a bit slimmer then a standard keyboards, as is often the case with gaming keyboards. The keyboard has a USB Micro-B connector on the back, and comes with both USB and PS/2 cables that are a little under 2m, I think.

There are no special features or customizations, unless you count blue LEDs for NumLock, CapsLock and ScrollLock indicators as a feature.

Like you, my main use of the keyboard has been for writing with some occasional gaming. It has been a solid performer in this regard.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky
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Yeah, i saw that I was possible to get one through a finnish site, these Roswell keyboards. I took a look at some reviews and in most of the reviews they compare it to Filco's keyboards when they review it, Even though they don't have it there physically to compare them head to head. I mean, they talk about Filco as it is the best of the best. But i don't know, i ordered one now and I hope it will serve me just fine :)
I read about one other guy who used a CM keyboard with brown cherry mx, who bought a Filco with brown cherry mx, and he experienced a great difference between these boards even though they both were cherry mx browns.
Sorry for not linking any sources, don't have the urge to find them again, so you will just have to trust me on this one ;)

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[quote name='Denis W' timestamp='1364093423' post='595594616']
the cheap Azio keyboard I got for a friend claims to have Cherry MX Red switches much like this yet it has clicky feedback. :ermm:
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There's a possibility that they're knock-off Cherry MX switches. There's a known brand from /r/MechanicalKeyboards called [url="http://imgur.com/a/7ujle#0"]Kailh[/url] but I didn't think they were in Azio boards. The easiest way to know would be to pull a keycap from the Azio board but if it belongs to a friend and they're happy it might not be worth the time and effort.

[quote name='dattuz' timestamp='1364119309' post='595594946']
I read about one other guy who used a CM keyboard with brown cherry mx, who bought a Filco with brown cherry mx, and he experienced a great difference between these boards even though they both were cherry mx browns.
Sorry for not linking any sources, don't have the urge to find them again, so you will just have to trust me on this one ;)
[/quote]

My first thought was that it might be due to different mounting. Having double-checked it seems both boards have plate-mounted switches so why the two feel different could be anyone's guess. It might be placebo but it might be something else. Strange regardless, but you're doing your research and hopefully that means your Filco will be exactly what you've hoped for too!

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[quote name='dattuz' timestamp='1364119309' post='595594946']
I read about one other guy who used a CM keyboard with brown cherry mx, who bought a Filco with brown cherry mx, and he experienced a great difference between these boards even though they both were cherry mx browns.
Sorry for not linking any sources, don't have the urge to find them again, so you will just have to trust me on this one ;)
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The CoolerMaster Storem Quickfire rapid is, from what I've read, the same board as a Filco. I've heard other CM keyboards aren't as good though.

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and here I'm still wishing I had a quieter keyboard than the Wave o.O

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[quote name='Deranged' timestamp='1364167781' post='595595802']
and here I'm still wishing I had a quieter keyboard than the Wave o.O
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From what I can see, the Logitech Wave is a rubber dome keyboard. Apple's keyboards might do the trick but they lack a numerical pad. If you were interested in going mechanical you could get a linear switch like the MX Blacks and a set of O-Rings or landing pads. Something like that might deaden the sound enough for you. The MX Reds might be too light, causing you to "bottom out" more, so the MX Blacks with the stiffer spring might be a solution. If you'd like to drop lots of money on a single board there's a quiet variant of the HHKB out there. Oh, and Matias now has the Silent Pro as well. According to their marketing, those are also pretty quiet.

[quote name='threetonesun' timestamp='1364167445' post='595595798']
The CoolerMaster Storem Quickfire rapid is, from what I've read, the same board as a Filco. I've heard other CM keyboards aren't as good though.
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[url="http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163935"]This forum post[/url] seems to suggest the QuickFire Rapid is a CoStar-built board, which would mean it originates from the same factories as Filcos (if I'm not mistaken). The other boards in the CMStorm range are iOne-produced. For some reason iOne has this comparatively poor reputation. I know they had problems with the Scorpius M10 a few years ago, but it seems that if you get a bad rap with mechanical keyboard enthusiasts it'll take ages to be forgotten about.

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[quote name='Paul Ferson' timestamp='1364168204' post='595595816']
From what I can see, the Logitech Wave is a rubber dome keyboard. Apple's keyboards might do the trick but they lack a numerical pad. If you were interested in going mechanical you could get a linear switch like the MX Blacks and a set of O-Rings or landing pads. Something like that might deaden the sound enough for you. The MX Reds might be too light, causing you to "bottom out" more, so the MX Blacks with the stiffer spring might be a solution. If you'd like to drop lots of money on a single board there's a quiet variant of the HHKB out there. Oh, and Matias now has the Silent Pro as well. According to their marketing, those are also pretty quiet.

[url="http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163935"]This forum post[/url] seems to suggest the QuickFire Rapid is a CoStar-built board, which would mean it originates from the same factories as Filcos (if I'm not mistaken). The other boards in the CMStorm range are iOne-produced. For some reason iOne has this comparatively poor reputation. I know they had problems with the Scorpius M10 a few years ago, but it seems that if you get a bad rap with mechanical keyboard enthusiasts it'll take ages to be forgotten about.
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Arright, thanks. I don't know when I'll feel like spending the money but I have minor ear damage so all noise annoys me (unless I wanted to hear it in the first place, anyway. :p )

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