Yuhong Bao Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I wonder if restoring Start menu as an option but limit it to Pro edition has been considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Why restrict such a basic feature to a professional edition? theyarecomingforyou, hamslammer, Shaun N. and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I wonder if restoring Start menu but limit it to Pro edition has been considered. By a room full of an infinite number of monkeys, perhaps. WAQT and TravisSpomer 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Better get used to it. :devil: mrp04, AshUK, +DonC and 5 others 8 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxkis Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Better get used to it. No, I don't want to. Aokromes, paul0544, Raa and 11 others 14 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 By a room full of an infinite number of monkeys, perhaps. LOL that's funny. Why not allow the user to select during the installation process or have the installation make the determination if a PC through an internal search is a touchscreen. then split the installation at that point and install a Windows 7 style with a start menu. I think if MS would have done that, It would probably wipe out any and all bad views of MS. Raa 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsnyy Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 The new start menu is my friend. Especially when it comes to group policy preferences... CPressland, subcld and The Evil Overlord 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuhong Bao Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 LOL that's funny. Why not allow the user to select during the installation process or have the installation make the determination if a PC through an internal search is a touchscreen. then split the installation at that point and install a Windows 7 style with a start menu. I think if MS would have done that, It would probably wipe out any and all bad views of MS. Not my point though. My point is about limiting this Win7 start menu option to Pro edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slumdogtrillionaire Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 the billionaires cant make their billions on pcs anymore so the hardware shift... necessitating a software shift. get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Kind of indicative when we who like the start menu are told to "deal with it." what a damn hostile approach to innovation if that is what it is. The Evil Overlord and Ian W 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I've already given up... If millions (or possibly billions) follow suit, we'll see if Microsoft rethinks their strategy or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order_66 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Better get used to it. :devil: Nobody HAS to get used to the user-hostile ui of windows 8, just stick with windows 7 like most people are doing, obviously. COKid and abysal 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order_66 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Why restore it period? Quit living in the past. Restoring something that works in favor of something that clearly doesn't work is not the same as "living in the past", far from it actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoffel Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Nobody HAS to get used to the user-hostile ui of windows 8, just stick with windows 7 like most people are doing, obviously. Are you secretly the alter ego of Chris Pirillo (that annoying little guy making videos about Win8) on Neowin. He likes to refer to the Win 8 UI as user hostile. TravisSpomer, freak180 and BajiRav 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 We'll just have to make do with the Start screen... Thankfully, there are alternatives such as Classic Shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1911 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I like the humor in here. But those who want Start Menu are free to use hundreds of alternatives which bring it back. Or get used to any sh** Microsoft pushes down our throats by buying their software. Or buy a Mac and strictly use OSX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerax Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 user-hostile ui lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKAngel Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Kind of indicative when we who like the start menu are told to "deal with it." what a damn hostile approach to innovation if that is what it is. they did ti with win 3.11 to 95, u didnt have a start menu back then and then wulla u have it, people were furious about it and didnt like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 But those who want Start Menu are free to......buy a Mac and strictly use OSX. Please explain to me how you get the Start Menu on a Mac, where this feature is in OSX. And no add-ons, as you say "strictly" use OSX. Or are you just trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted March 25, 2013 Supervisor Share Posted March 25, 2013 I wonder if restoring Start menu as an option but limit it to Pro edition has been considered. It wouldn't work. First and foremost because there are free start menu replacements out there that work on all versions of Windows 8, so Microsoft including a start menu only in the Pro version wouldn't be an incentive for people to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.grz Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Kind of indicative when we who like the start menu are told to "deal with it." what a damn hostile approach to innovation if that is what it is. So how would you approach it? To me, innovation means change so keeping the start menu because people aren't ready to part with it goes against the whole idea of innovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 FFS... The amount of crying over the Start Menu is rather hilarious. You guys act like you're 2 years old after mommy says no to getting a toy... Why must developers undermine their mission just to make a few luddites happy? Microsoft isn't going to bring that back. There is no reason to bring back old, deprecated features. The Start Menu reached it's max potential, and now it's time to move on or die out. Simple as that. articuno1au, BajiRav, Anibal P and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted March 25, 2013 Supervisor Share Posted March 25, 2013 Why must developers undermine their mission just to make a few luddites happy? Microsoft isn't going to bring that back. I agree with this. Microsoft have their plans and it doesn't look like they're going to change, leave them to it. It can be the mission of other developers to offer a start menu for those that want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 ?Please explain to me how you get the Start Menu on a Mac, where this feature is in OSX. ? I can only speak for myself but, honestly, I couldn't care less about the Start Menu. I'm not resistant to change especially when it comes in the form of progress. What I care about, and the reason I chose to install Start8 on my Windows 8 installation is the functionality that the Start Menu provides. What functionality specifically? Well: 1 a clearly visible UI element for accessing: 2 an unobtrusive popup menu that doesn't take over the whole screen for: 2a a unified desktop search (ideally with drag and drop support) 2b a complete listing of your apps 2c a link to the control panel 2d power options 2e recent items Clearly Windows 7 delivers all of that (and more) in the form of the Start button/menu. Well, Windows 8 completely fails in the first respect. There's no visible UI element at all to access any of the mentioned items. So what about the second item?There's no popup menu anymore. Windows 8 forces you to go fullscreen for 2a and 2b. A fullscreen Desktop search option exists, but without providing drag and drop support or being unified - it forces you to select whether you're specifically interested in looking for apps, settings or files. Both a link to the control panel as well as power options still exist as part of the Settings Charm which is slightly more cumbersome to get to than before and is far less discoverable. Recent items are gone. So what about OS X? It actually separates out the functionality into 3 UI items: The Applications Stack, the Spotlight menu and the Apple menu: All three accessible by clicking on clearly visible UI elements. All three providing an unobtrusive popup menu. 2a is provided by the Spotlight menu, 2b by the applications stack, 2c/d/e by the Apple menu. In fact, if Windows 8 instead of the Start Menu would provide nothing more than the Spotlight icon and menu, I would already be ecstatic. Let it show all apps when no text is entered. Put a button for the Settings Charm on the task bar (as I suggested before) and you're golden. Order_66 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashel Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I think a classic option in for the Pro/NT branding makes perfect sense, especially on Server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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