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#1 Co-ords

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 13:52

Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the next version of OS X 10.9. It seems awfully quite at the moment, last year this time we had already seen 10.8!


#2 presence06

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 13:53

They have time yet, I'm sure they'll announce something in June/July.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 13:55

Apparently the release cycle had been bumped up to a yearly release schedule...

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 15:10

Has it been officially changed to a yearly release now?

#5 Hurmoth

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 15:33

Has it been officially changed to a yearly release now?

Lion & Mountain Lion were released a year apart, so, from what I've heard from Apple pundits, it is commonly believed that they're on a yearly release cycle just like iOS, but that's only going based on two releases though.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 15:34

i would like to actually see OS XI :p kinda getting bored of what apple is doing

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 15:39

Has it been officially changed to a yearly release now?


As far as I can remember either Craig Federighi for Tim Cook said so with the release of 10.8. More frequent OS updates with less but more stable changes. We will have to wait and see...

#8 vetPink Floyd

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 15:45

AppleSeed testers are working on it ;)

#9 Mr Nom Nom's

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 16:27

Has it been officially changed to a yearly release now?


Yeah, on Daring Fireball the site owner John Gruber had a one on one (part of a larger media event) where OS X was announced to have moved to a yearly release. The big question really is whether their eventual aim is to move to a yearly free upgrade much like iOS devices.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 21:42

Now that I'm a full OS X convert (gotten rid of all my Windows systems), I have to ask this: I've seen a lot of people complain about the shortcomings of HFS/HFS+, and years ago I remember seeing talk of ZFS becoming a successor. Obviously that didn't, or hasn't happened yet, so what do you all think will happen with the filesystem? Anything major in 10.9 (obviously based purely on speculation), or will we have to continue to wait?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:24

Now that I'm a full OS X convert (gotten rid of all my Windows systems), I have to ask this: I've seen a lot of people complain about the shortcomings of HFS/HFS+, and years ago I remember seeing talk of ZFS becoming a successor. Obviously that didn't, or hasn't happened yet, so what do you all think will happen with the filesystem? Anything major in 10.9 (obviously based purely on speculation), or will we have to continue to wait?


When it comes to HFS+ they're doing what Microsoft is doing with NTFS/ReFS - they're keeping the same 'front end' and working on the backend code so that the under pinnings are updated and improved but to the applications sitting on top everything is great. As for ZFS - believe me you don't want it even if there were the licensing issues that ended up stopping the project. I used to use Solaris with ZFS and unless you have gigabytes of memory the whole thing is a memory hog. The design of ZFS is based on running a server with huge amounts of memory thus it is totally impractical from an end user workstation perspective hence I'd sooner Apple keep on the path that they're on rather than attempting to turn ZFS into something that it isn't - a file system for desktops, laptops and workstations.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:31

I hope it'll do something file-system wise. Having 3 OS's here (windows, mac and linux) is a right pain in the arse to get files from one to the other. The only truely universal FS supported on all 3 is FAT32 and it's limited to 4GB files, NTFS is read only on mac, HFS+ is read only on bootcamp windows or unreadable on normal windows and none of the linux FS's are supported on windows or mac.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:52

I hope it'll do something file-system wise. Having 3 OS's here (windows, mac and linux) is a right pain in the arse to get files from one to the other. The only truely universal FS supported on all 3 is FAT32 and it's limited to 4GB files, NTFS is read only on mac, HFS+ is read only on bootcamp windows or unreadable on normal windows and none of the linux FS's are supported on windows or mac.


There is exFAT but I'm unsure as to how well it is supported on Linux though but I've heard there is progress and there are third parties who sell exFAT support if you need it. Mac OS X and Windows both support exFAT which is basically FAT 64bit with a whole heap of improvements.

#14 Motoko.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:52

I was getting excited over nothing, lol

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:56

I hope it'll do something file-system wise. Having 3 OS's here (windows, mac and linux) is a right pain in the arse to get files from one to the other. The only truely universal FS supported on all 3 is FAT32 and it's limited to 4GB files, NTFS is read only on mac, HFS+ is read only on bootcamp windows or unreadable on normal windows and none of the linux FS's are supported on windows or mac.

Not sure what the support is like on Linux, but I use ExFAT for all the drives I have to read/write using OSX and Windows.