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Better for online gaming- HP 8570p or 2170p?


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#1 benthemonkey631

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 20:21

Links to the specs for the computers-

https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/HP-EliteBook-8570p-15.6in-Core-i5-3360M-Windows-7-Professional-64-bit/2733068.aspx?enkwrd=ALLPROD%3a%7c2733068%7cAll%20Product%20Catalog#TS

https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/HP-EliteBook-2170p-11.6in-Core-i5-3427U-Windows-7-Professional-64-bit/2758720.aspx?enkwrd=ALLPROD%3a%7c2758720%7cAll%20Product%20Catalog

I am torn between the 1 gb dd5 and the 2 gb ddr

The processor i believe is between on the 8570p but what is better if i were to play the new starcraft or other games that require performance and possibly hi-res. I have 16 gb of ram to put in as well.

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#2 Jeston

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 20:40

The 8570p is clearly the better laptop with a faster processor, dedicated graphics card/RAM (vs shared memory with the integrated graphics) and larger screen. The only thing the 2170p has going for it is the SSD and that's an easy upgrade for any laptop. In either case, I'd add an additional 4GB stick of RAM as they both come with 1x4GB and can support up to 4x4GB.

Edit: just saw you already plan on upping the RAM.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 20:47

Dedicated GDDR is always a plus. What ^ he said.

#4 OP benthemonkey631

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 20:53

Even though its 1gb compared to the 2gb. I guess i dont understand why the 1 ddr5 is better than the 2 ddr3...

The ram is no problem I have the max 16 gb ready to go when i get whichever.

Thank you for your input!!

#5 Astra.Xtreme

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 20:57

The 8570p is definitely better, but that price seems crazy high.

You could go with this instead, which is better in every aspect and also about $500 cheaper. Then use that savings to get a 256GB SSD or something.

http://shop.lenovo.c...CA012D9B20ED2FB

Even though its 1gb compared to the 2gb. I guess i dont understand why the 1 ddr5 is better than the 2 ddr3...

The ram is no problem I have the max 16 gb ready to go when i get whichever.

Thank you for your input!!


That vRAM is basically only useful at higher resolutions and/or with multiple displays. Since that laptop doesn't have a high resolution, 1GB vs 2GB isn't going to make a difference. The speed of GDDR5 vs GDDR3 will make a bit of a difference though.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 21:15

The Intel HD Graphics 4000 is terrible and will barely play anything.

The 7570m is better, but still not really designed for modern gaming. It'll play the new starcraft (which is 3 years old), but don't expect do play any new games very well that require "high performance" .

Video memory means nothing when it is shared with the processor, and even if it had 100gb's, the HD 4000 would still suck.
On any video card, 1gb of DDR5 would be much better than 2gb of DDR3 anyway.

I highly recommend you get neither of those laptops, you will only be disappointed when you go to play something and it runs really slow or doesn't run at all....

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 19:29

Game changer a little bit here. I was told i can get either of those or the

http://www.cdw.com/s...Product Catalog

This one obviously has better processor but since its a k1000m, is that better than the 7570m?

#8 Jeston

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 20:40

Game changer a little bit here. I was told i can get either of those or the

http://www.cdw.com/s...oduct%20Catalog

This one obviously has better processor but since its a k1000m, is that better than the 7570m?


The quadro graphics cards are definitely not made for gaming. They're aimed at digital content creation and CAD applications. Even though the processor is better, you'd still be better off with the 8570p for gaming.

#9 Astra.Xtreme

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 20:52

The quadro graphics cards are definitely not made for gaming. They're aimed at digital content creation and CAD applications. Even though the processor is better, you'd still be better off with the 8570p for gaming.


Actually the K1000M is quite a bit faster than the 7570M.
http://www.videocard...u=Quadro K1000M
http://www.videocard...Radeon HD 7570M

It still won't play games that great, but out of those 3, it's the best choice.

@OP
I'm assuming you are locked into getting an HP from that website only, correct?
If so, I'd suggest this one:
http://www.cdw.com/s...-7/2868524.aspx

It has a much better video card and you will have 1080p resolution. Same price as the last one you suggested.

#10 webdev511

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 20:57

HP Refurbs are a good option. http://h71016.www7.h...ting/price-list

Of course Haswell machines will be announced the beginning of June and will likely be available in August, so it won't be long until the Ivy Bridge machines will be on the discount rack because the Haswell's are going to be so much better with battery and performance.

#11 Jeston

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 21:04

Actually the K1000M is quite a bit faster than the 7570M.
http://www.videocard...u=Quadro+K1000M
http://www.videocard...Radeon+HD+7570M

It still won't play games that great, but out of those 3, it's the best choice.

@OP
I'm assuming you are locked into getting an HP from that website only, correct?
If so, I'd suggest this one:
http://www.cdw.com/s...-7/2868524.aspx

It has a much better video card and you will have 1080p resolution. Same price as the last one you suggested.


Well I'll admit I'm surprised the K1000M performs as well as it does, but I still can't recommend getting a workstation graphics card for use primarily in gaming. It's just not what it was designed to do.

#12 Astra.Xtreme

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 22:01

Well I'll admit I'm surprised the K1000M performs as well as it does, but I still can't recommend getting a workstation graphics card for use primarily in gaming. It's just not what it was designed to do.


The only difference in Quadro to Geforce is that the Quadro firmware is optimized for OpenGL, which is useful for CAD and solid modeling. I believe they have much better floating point performance also.
Besides that, it's identical to it's Geforce equivalent which is a GT630 I believe.



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