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#1 hellohello

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 09:06

Hi all,

I am new to pc building and trying to make the build worthwhile.

I ocassionaly play game and use adobe after effects.

The current build

Mainboard
Asus P8Z77-V LK

The compability list http://www.asus.com/...LK/#support_QVL

Do I need the X79 chipset? I am not planning to OC or upgrade the CPU. I do plan to use SSD in future. Is the current board good enough?

CPU
Intel i7 3770

GPU
Sapphire HD7790
RAM
Corsair 2x 4GB 1600MHz DDR-3

According to the hardware compability, both the GPU and RAM aren't in the official support list.

For GPU, HD7770 is there but not the HD7790. I go for sapphire as it is cheaper.

As for RAM, corsair is there but not the 2x4GB. Surprisingly, when I checked at corsair site, 2x4GB is actually supported. Now I am confused.

Can I still use those parts or it will cause problems?

HDD : 2x 500GB Seagate 16M 7200rpm Sata 6.0

Case : Corsair Carbide 500R

CPU : Cooler : Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2

PSU : I am sure about this, is 500W enough?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks.


#2 +Zag L.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:02

All of your parts look just fine. the only thing I would maybe suggest is based on your stated usage, stepping down to a i5 3570 to save a bit.

#3 OP hellohello

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:32

Thanks Tempus,

I will consider using i5 to lower the price.

I am just too worried about the official supported list unless they allow me to change the parts if it doesn't work :)

#4 Phouchg

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 11:56

Compatibility isn't that big of a problem. Pretty much any board will take 1600 MHz sticks, because any Ivy Bridge system *must* take them - it's a requirement. They can't test all possible products from all manufacturers on the market, now can they?

I've seen XMP profile fail whereas setting by hand works ok. BIOS updates usually solve any small problem you might have. Z77 is a very refined platform by now, although some boards I get still have their very first release (especially ASUS) - in which case I update even it it seems to turn on fine, just to be more sure.

#5 +Zag L.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 12:47

I've never even looked at a motherboards compatibility list - and I've built nearly 20 PC's over the last 5 or 6 years and not once have I found a component that didn't work. I'm not saying that there couldn't be SOME issue with some fringe parts, but you don't have any listed. Everything on your list is about as mainstream as you can get.

#6 OP hellohello

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 13:33

When I google around, I found others having problem with dual channel and one with 4x8GB on this P8Z77 board. Adding up with inexperience, I just want to make sure the build is ok.

Now I am assured. Time to go survey around to get the best price.

Thanks both of you.

#7 The Gamer

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 16:20

I have almost the exact same build as that, and it works fine. My RAM is Corsair Vengeance 2x 4GB, however.

The 500W should be enough for your PSU, but I'm not too familiar with your GPU, so I can't say for sure. I'm running the i5-3570K instead of the i7, and an EVGA GeForce GTX 550ti instead of your GPU. I do have your exact same motherboard, though. It's a good motherboard.

#8 Astra.Xtreme

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 16:27

I have that same motherboard, and you don't have anything to worry about in regards to compatibility.

#9 YounGMessiah

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 17:50

I have the same motherboard, but I would suggest investing into a better one!
Reason is how it handles power, I definitely saw its limits.. It has currently a 4+1+1 voltage regulation, but isnt handled the best.

I would step up in the tier on the P8Z77-V series.

I would also suggest 550W to 600W :p

#10 Phouchg

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 18:20

I have the same motherboard, but I would suggest investing into a better one!
Reason is how it handles power, I definitely saw its limits.. It has currently a 4+1+1 voltage regulation, but isnt handled the best.

I would step up in the tier on the P8Z77-V series.

I would also suggest 550W to 600W :p


I've run 7970 Crossfire on HX650W :pinch:

About not handling power well - that is something I know squat of. What does it mean?

#11 KSib

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 18:31

pcpartpicker.com is your friend. It will tell you of anything that isn't compatible and you can more easily share your build information with others as well as discover the lowest prices for components. I also suggest this site: http://www.logicalincrements.com/ just because it's a nice starting point for some.

#12 YounGMessiah

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 18:45

http://www.hardwares...tor-Circuit/616

Some decent details

I wish I could explain it more, but then I would have to teach you about components, the Science, some Math and circuitry.

#13 Phouchg

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 21:10

http://www.hardwares...tor-Circuit/616

Some decent details

I wish I could explain it more, but then I would have to teach you about components, the Science, some Math and circuitry.


With that sort of attitude I figure you couldn't explain more if your life depended on it. And certainly not qualified to teach anything.

Now, unless you have definite information why this exact model (or general design as it's being used in numerous other ASUS boards) doesn't deliver (which it does)...

#14 YounGMessiah

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 21:18

With what attitude?

All I was stating from my experience with this board and I do have proof (problem is I need statistics from others motherboards or people with the same), but the actual proof is online.
You dont need to know crap about circuits and components to read/learn about VRMs, you can see by looking up all the appropriate components and seeing some are not as quality. In delivering power you need a reliable method which over time is consistent.

Yeah I might not have the qualifications and I could describe a lot more, but why when its explained very well on the web and in books.

Now we could also take into consideration that I have a somewhat bad motherboard and why I experience odd issues when it comes to how it delivers throughout.

So because you dont want to look at the technology being used and have someone feed you a biased asnwer (mine or others), youre going to say I have an attitude and pretty much say my claims are wrong; when you dont even have claims yourself.

Only three of Asus' motherboards utilize the 4+1+1 voltage regulation and has been reported not to be the best, but does what it needs.
(That is based off of reviews online)

#15 Phouchg

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 01:12

Claims, I have them in boatloads. MSC containerships at times. One for starters - amount of power phases means nothing. That's a design decision, sprinkled with marketing, which seems to be the case here and with most consumer boards for the last three years. I know the theory. I don't know the specifics, can't back them up if I thought I did, therefore I withhold claims.

There's no definite (or any) proof that it's going to explode (and I exaggerate because that's what I do), it doesn't have known compatibility problems, it can take a fair bit of OC which OP doesn't even want to. Why suggest wasting money? Where's the... ok, wtf.

I might add, anyone that suggests some random wattage number instead of specific configuration or brand is not to be taken seriously about power delivery in general, so if you don't mind... you're digging a hole in the ground with a stick here.