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#16 TheExperiment

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 15:00

I don't think there's really any problem with the debate...unless the products come out and people are still spreading crap, you work with what you have.


#17 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 15:43

so why did you apologize? :/

I'm not participating in y vs z threads anymore, I standby my opinions just not the way I went about expressing them by hammering my overbearing attitude down peoples throats.

#18 A. Destroyer

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 15:45

Personally, I will be switching to PS4.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 23:42

I think there is a lot of unnecessary fanboyism on any forum or website, but I think MS has created most of it themselves with the Xbox One reveal debacle.

Why do you think there is little to no negativity on the Sony side? They didn't even show the console, their conference wasn't overly polished and it didn't blow people out of the water. Yet, there appears to be little negativity. Sony focused on games. They showed footage of upcoming games people are interested in. They had a clear direction they were taking: The PS4 is focused on being the best game console possible, and we are pushing HARD to make sure it's the best experience for you.

Now on the other side, MS has a full blown ****storm on their hands. Most people were very excited to see the reveal and the way the whole thing was handled was so BAD that many true MS supporters are now lost, upset, or just plain confused about the direction they are taking. Their target audience for a reveal was mainly gamers on the day of the reveal, yet they showed little to no quality game footage of anything except EA sports titles, Call of Duty, and a first party live action trailer.

Throughout their entire conference, one thing was clear, TV is important to this console:

TV, TV, TV.

You WANT TV capabilities with this console. You WANT this console to be your 'jack of all trades.' You WANT TV on this thing!!!!!!

But personally, I don't think that's what people want. The reason the 360 was so popular was that it did games unbelievably. The 360 was focused on games and gamers. It had better exclusives, had better graphics, had a better online service, and had a better controller than PS3. I've gone through 3 Xbox 360's and I'm on my 4th PS3 now and my 2nd Wii. (I seem to have terrible luck! lol) so it's not like I just had a 360 this whole time.

MS definitely wanted their target audience to think the Xbox One was going to be focused around the TV. I think that is main the reason a lot of people are upset. Gamers tuned in, gamers were basically told to screw off, you want TV features on this console.

Then you add in all the other ingredients for the **** storm:

1. DRM restrictions
2. Used games fees
3. "Always on"
4. Mandatory Kinect 2.0
5. Kinect "Always on"

Even if some of this is FUD, it's an issue that MS now has to deal with. Why was that started in the first place? MS doesn't have their house in order and they themselves let this happen! They let this get out of control with their misinformation and not giving people whole and straight answers. Also, not everyone just believes what a MS tells them and personally a few of these things ****es me off. I've already posted in another thread about this but the mandatory kinect 2.0 is a huge mistake. Believe what you want about MS saying that it's in sleep mode or you can disable it, but I just don't believe that. They will be using it to advertise, other threads have alluded to Kinect DRM limits, that just screams privacy breach to me. Anyways, some people don't care and that's fine if they want their privacy breached, but I think a lot of people are going to have a problem with this.

I've always been a MS supporter and have owned every Xbox console (and live) since each respective launch. But with all this misinformation, the whole tone of their company trying to shove this TV crap down our throats and potential major privacy breaches, stranglehold on DRM rights and the rest of the crap they've spread, as someone in this thread said earlier:

MS has a very big hill to climb with the Xbox One.

And it's ALL self Inflicted.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 00:09

I've always found that, when there's a chance to abuse something, be it, power, control, media news .. people have done it all the time. Do I knee jerk at things I think are legitimately able to be abused? -yes.

But that's just me. my understanding about this Xbox 1 thing is, the ability for the kinect to scan a room and then force people to pay for extra people in the room beyond a certain number? You have to ask, "where is this command coming from?" "who is receiving this information and storing it?" " how long do they keep this information and where?" "what do they DO with this information?"

But with all the new warrant less searches that the FBI and authorities CAN and have done, (Remember Eric holder with regards to AP and FOX), Do you folks really want to allow such innocuous situations in your lives? Ok, you might throw back, I'm not doing anything illegal.. really? what if someone in your home breaks out a bong? and later authorities take you to court because authorities found kinect data video that, you had a child in the background, down the hall playing with toys? They'll hammer you to no end.

I'm a stooge for privacy. a persons home is their domain of safety.

I'm STILL researching more about this to get a better understanding but I'm closely watching the news about more info about the whole system in the greater sense and in detail as they will come out.

This post in NOT flame bait or conspiracy, I just look more into things then i used to. Aliens will not come to my house for playing space invaders and killing their kin.

#21 shakey

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 00:13

And it's ALL self Inflicted.


This a million times. What everyone is forgetting, is that any negative press about the X1 is all due to how MS has handled everything. It's not like people just made this up. Everything that has been reported, has come directly from someone at MS saying something. If you want to hate, hate those at MS with loose lips. No one has made anything up.
People didn't make up DRM policies or used game fee's, It was said directly by those at MS. If they didn't state it all clearly, it is only MS's fault.
People getting mad about "FUD" being spread... well then, yell at MS for saying **** they shouldn't. Can't get mad at others only parroting what MS has already said.

#22 dead.cell

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 00:49

Apparently, we cannot even look at these leaks objectively without being labeled a fanboy. Did we forget what website this is? Did we forget how we started following the Windows development cycle on Neowin, watching/reading every last detail, speculation, and so forth? Why must we keep quiet, and why must it come down to personal attacks when someone posts incorrect information?

As it stands, if someone posts incorrect information, and they are slammed with personal attacks, labeling, and so forth before anyone does anything to correct them properly. Long gone are the days of bringing evidence to back up your claim, showing people where you learned such information, or anything of the sort to counter... Instead, it's apparently easier to just go "Nuh uh" and cross your arms having "won your argument". Posted Image

Also, in regards to the "FUD" being spread, I feel it's worth emphasizing how even the Xbox Magazine website posted articles related to the Xbox One being region locked, and speculating on the online requirement / 24 hour check-ins. I don't understand how some people are slamming websites calling them "pro Sony" just because they posted details. If you're a fan of the Xbox, one would think you should be the MOST critical of the company. Otherwise, how can you expect Microsoft to deliver better quality goods and services if you can't bring yourself to at least tell them what you don't want. It doesn't matter whether the details are true or not, at least letting them know how absurd some of the rumors may be will give them an idea of what's a good idea and what's a completely stupid idea.

As I recall, a good public lashing gave way to a better licensing policy with Microsoft Office. It's not like they're completely thick headed after all. (I hope)

#23 PhilTheThrill

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 00:58

YOU CAN WATCH TV ON IT! OMFG
SKYPE TOO. JESUS H CHRIST
INTERNET EXPLORER TEN! YOU HAVE JUST EJACULATED FOR SURE
DID WE MENTION TV?
THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE HAS SOME APP EXCLUSIVE TO US! BOOM BITCHES
LOOK AT THIS ****. I CAN GO TO IE10 THEN TO SKYPE THEN TO TV AND IT'S INSTANT. HOLY FK
IT HOOKS UP TO YOUR TV BTW

Meanwhile all the cool people are on their PCs.

#24 ctrl_alt_delete

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:26

Self inflicted? That's weird I didn't know Microsoft went around to fanboys and told them to say all kind of ill information in hopes that they would spread Fear (kinect is going to watch and record everything you do even when you turn it off, kinect is going to limit how many people can watch), doubt (the console is so under powered, plus it's always gotta be connected to the Internet, if its not connected then you can't use it) doubt (the Xbox one doesn't have any games it's all about tv tv tv tv, no games maybe just a few ea titles and Cod but that's it nothing else): FUD. Pure unadulterated FUD.

One commenter in another thread even went to great lengths to explain how the Xbox one was grossly underpowered compared to the ps4. Basically saying Microsoft did nothing to change up the underlying architecture of the platform but are only betting on cloud computing while saying Sony went the whole 9 yards in advancing their offering. I still don't see how he could see Sony make changes but not Microsoft.

Anyways it seems since Microsoft stepping into the console race it has gotten interesting. If Microsoft hadn't stepped in my Sony would be left as the only power console and I think by now we would only be seeing the ps3. So I'm glad Microsoft stepped in and is doing their part to make sure competition is alive. More than one console maker in the mix it means better products for us consumers.

Anyone can buy whatever they want, I know wht I'll be getting and it's an Xbox one. Yes I look forward to the tv/cable integration but most importantly is the multitasking because sometimes when I want to play games my girl wants to watch tv so plit screen would be a very welcomed feature for me (if it works right).


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:49

I personally find the Xbox One kinda cool. From all it can do, and gaming. Thinking about it, the PS4 can't even do what the Xbox one can do. They didn't really explain much during the PS4 presentation on what else other than gaming the PS4 can do. Now, don't say I'm a fan boy, I own a PS3 as well, so I'm just saying that as my honest opinion.

#26 The_Observer

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:52

You couldn't be more correct. Fanyboyism is pathetic. If you don't like it move on. Don't harp on about why you should be heard for your hatred over others for the product.


yea I think not, what about the way they are changing there used game rules. If we don't stand up and make yourself heard then it will become the norm and we will have to live with it.

YOU CAN WATCH TV ON IT! OMFG
SKYPE TOO. JESUS H CHRIST
INTERNET EXPLORER TEN! YOU HAVE JUST EJACULATED FOR SURE
DID WE MENTION TV?
THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE HAS SOME APP EXCLUSIVE TO US! BOOM BITCHES
LOOK AT THIS ****. I CAN GO TO IE10 THEN TO SKYPE THEN TO TV AND IT'S INSTANT. HOLY FK
IT HOOKS UP TO YOUR TV BTW

Meanwhile all the cool people are on their PCs.


You forgot about INTERNET EXPLORER TEN NEEDS XBOX LIVE GOLD!

#27 Yusuf M.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:55

This a million times. What everyone is forgetting, is that any negative press about the X1 is all due to how MS has handled everything. It's not like people just made this up. Everything that has been reported, has come directly from someone at MS saying something. If you want to hate, hate those at MS with loose lips. No one has made anything up.
People didn't make up DRM policies or used game fee's, It was said directly by those at MS. If they didn't state it all clearly, it is only MS's fault.
People getting mad about "FUD" being spread... well then, yell at MS for saying **** they shouldn't. Can't get mad at others only parroting what MS has already said.

It's not as black and white as you'd think. Some of what's been going around started out as a rumour and evolved into a slightly different rumour.

The bottom line is, Microsoft already responded to the rumours by basically saying the following:

"The ability to trade in and resell games is important to gamers and to Xbox. Xbox One is designed to support the trade in and resale of games. Reports about our policies for trade in and resale are inaccurate and incomplete. We will disclose more information in the near future."

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#28 SiCKX

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:56

I believe it is best to wait for E3 where MS will supposedly wash that awful conference away from people's minds and Sony will confirm no DRM (even from publishers' side). A few online rants mean nothing a you can see here:

http://www.tomshardw...cord,22887.html

However: :D

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#29 farmeunit

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 02:05

No one has said it HAS to be connected the whole time. That's rubbish. Stop reading into things. Show me where it's been said (and can be proved to be real) that it HAS to be connected at all times. Microsoft aren't stupid. They will know not everyone wants to have it connected or has the space to have it connected. The controller will be sufficient to use the machine. Anyone who doesn't realise this needs to get out of the clouds. It's bloody obvious. So I think you should stop worrying about that sort of stuff.


http://www.ign.com/w...Xbox_One_Kinect

And there are other threads mentioning that it CAN be turned off, but HAS to be connected.

#30 The_Decryptor

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 03:59

People complaining about region locks is pretty funny too, since the 360 does the exact same thing (Nintendo does as well)

Half the rumors are based on pure conjecture, and reinforced with ignorance.



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