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#76 LaP

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 17:45

R.U.S.E, day one $60 PC game and I had to register it via Steam. Mass Effect 3, same situation you have to register it via Origin. StarCraft 2, register via Battlenet. These are are all brand new, AAA titles that REQUIRE registration with a service. More off the top of my head: Battlefield 3, Skyrim, Sim City, Dead Space 2/3


I wont try to argue with someone who try to tell me there's as much good deals in store as there's on Steam. Cause it's a waste of time.

I don't know about USA. But here you'll never find a new game in a store for under 40$ unless it's a really crappy game (by new i mean not used even if the game is 1 year old the brand new boxed copy will still be 40$ or more if it's still avalaible).

I'm a really patient man. I don't mind waiting 1 year for a game to do own in price on Steam. And despite what some people may say i'm always able to find game son Steam for 30$ and under. Here when it comes to console gaming if you want a game for 30$ and under in a store you need to buy used.


#77 wv@gt

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 17:45

I'm not much of a gamer now, nor do I own a console, so a lot of this is new to me. What would it take to bring pricing down? I would think the digital versions would be cheaper than physical especially since its not physically yours.

#78 threetonesun

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 18:27

I wont try to argue with someone who try to tell me there's as much good deals in store as there's on Steam. Cause it's a waste of time.


Oddly, some games have been cheaper on disc lately than online. Far Cry 3, for example, has been under $20 on disc for the PC, but hasn't made it that low digitally (yet) for whatever reason.

#79 LaP

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 18:51

Oddly, some games have been cheaper on disc lately than online. Far Cry 3, for example, has been under $20 on disc for the PC, but hasn't made it that low digitally (yet) for whatever reason.


Hum here the disc version of FarCry 3 is 60$ for all platform (PS3, 360 and PC). The used 360 and PS3 version is 40$ (sales end june 13 it usually is 55$). I don't know how much the Steam version is since i'm at work but Steam Watch has yet to send me an email to tell me the game is cheap enough to buy it so it's surely still high.

I don't know where you live but here the stores steal us badly.

Anyway to be honest disk or online i don't care i buy the cheaper version. It's just that i have less trouble finding deals when it comes to the PC market than it is when it comes to the console market.

#80 Javik

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 18:56

This is the Internet, not the people's republic of china. If you don't want to read negative press simply ignore the threads or start your own.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 19:07

This is the Internet, not the people's republic of china. If you don't want to read negative press simply ignore the threads or start your own.


Don't bother. Telling people to post their own content is pointless, they'd rather complain about the content everyone else makes the effort to post.

#82 CentralDogma

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 20:50

And yet they still will not return to me an account for several years ago. And, regardless, Valve controls access to your games as they see fit. The fact is, they aren't yours to keep. They are Valve's to let you use. Disc based media is no different, the only difference is that the last 10 years of console gaming didn't operate like PC gaming, which since as far back as I can remember was a license based system like any other software. Games are software, and if people don't consider it that, then they need to wake up to the reality.

All the X1 is doing is making that more apparent, especially with discless play after install.


I assume you got your account blacklisted for doing something like doing a chargeback on a game. You should contact Valve about your account, then. Thought their support isn’t the best, they may be able to help.

As for controlling access, you can always back up your games on Steam if you're paranoid about it.

I wont try to argue with someone who try to tell me there's as much good deals in store as there's on Steam. Cause it's a waste of time.

I don't know about USA. But here you'll never find a new game in a store for under 40$ unless it's a really crappy game (by new i mean not used even if the game is 1 year old the brand new boxed copy will still be 40$ or more if it's still avalaible).

I'm a really patient man. I don't mind waiting 1 year for a game to do own in price on Steam. And despite what some people may say i'm always able to find game son Steam for 30$ and under. Here when it comes to console gaming if you want a game for 30$ and under in a store you need to buy used.


The console industry monetizes gaming in a fundamentally different way than PC digital distribution sources like Steam. Console monetization is predicated on the development of games. The platform holders make their money during development. Publishers have to pay millions of dollars in licensing fees and distribution costs before the game ever reaches store shelves. This is huge overhead, and they get a tinier percentage of each sale. Console games have to sell at high quantity and high cost to recoup that overhead.

PC gaming doesn't work like this. Steam monetizes the distribution of games. They’re not concerned with having games developed, they’re concerned only with selling ones that are already made. There are no licensing fees. There is no flat distribution costs. With Steam, developers keep 70 cents on every dollar sold. Retail can't match that. PC games can be profitable at sale pricing or at low volume because developers make a lot more money on PC gaming per sale and they have less overhead to begin with.

#83 LaP

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 20:55

I very well know how the industry works Dogma. That's no my point. My point is simply i don't mind not being able to resell if i pay 30$ and less. I do mind if i pay between 40 and 60$. I have a harder time finding console games at 30$ and under than i have finding PC games at this price. I rely on the eBay/Kijiji used games market in the console side of things to find games at an affordable price. If i buy a One it appears i'll have to deal with EB Games even for used games which i do not want to since they usually charge more.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 15:41

I assume you got your account blacklisted for doing something like doing a chargeback on a game. You should contact Valve about your account, then. Thought their support isn’t the best, they may be able to help.

As for controlling access, you can always back up your games on Steam if you're paranoid about it.


My account was apparently "compromised" in a 4 year absense of me logging in. I lost $200 worth of games back in 2003-2007. I was never emailed or informed in any manner my account had been compromised and locked out and upon emailing them they flat out told me "We do not reactivate blacklisted accounts, I'm sorry for the inconvenience." I have never once done anything fishy with games. Since then, I've been resigned to the fact that anything I own on Steam is not mine, and as such am completely prepared to have the same situation on the consoles when it happens (which is inevitable). Now or later means nothing to me.

And I doubt backing up your steamapps folder will do anything, since you need steam to use it. But thanks for the accusations.