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#16 ashpowell

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:57

I can't agree - 'all games on ultra' at that res at 60fps with one card isn't doable - but then that's my requirement - 60fps with all the eye candy on and that does (quite often) require SLI to achieve. I have a LCD in front of the monitor showing GPU usage per card and there's plenty of games pushing both hard thesedays. If you can live with lower FPS then it's not so much a problem but then you're driving a lot more pixels than me and so the cost is much (much) higher as a result. I'm specifically avoiding going to 1440p resolution because I can't stand the low FPS it introduces and quite a few games are borderline at 1920x1200. Of course it varies, and there's also the option of dropping a few settings to get the framerates up again. Choices as always. I have a very low tolerance for <60fps :(

Example of game that pushes my system at 1920? Metro Last Light. Just benchmark it (it has a built in benchmark) with everything on 'ultra'.

The big reason for me going SLI was that the 670 wasn't enough of a jump up from the 580 I had beforehand. The same logic is keeping me off the 770/80 for this generation as replacements.


Oh definitely not all at 60fps constant, but none ever dip to a fps that is noticeable in terms of laginess or anything like that. Im using the latest beta drivers and overclocked a fair bit

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Just did a quick test, and although not the most graphic intensive games, theyre 3 popular ones:

Battlefield 3 @ 2560 x 1440 = Average 90fps
Crysis 2 @ 2560 x 1440 = Average 70fps
Skyrim @ 2560 x 1440 = Average 70fps

These were during moment with gunfire/fire/etc

So a 770 will definitely run games at your resolution quite comfortably IMO


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:37

Oh definitely not all at 60fps constant, but none ever dip to a fps that is noticeable in terms of laginess or anything like that. Im using the latest beta drivers and overclocked a fair bit

Edit:
Just did a quick test, and although not the most graphic intensive games, theyre 3 popular ones:

Battlefield 3 @ 2560 x 1440 = Average 90fps
Crysis 2 @ 2560 x 1440 = Average 70fps
Skyrim @ 2560 x 1440 = Average 70fps

These were during moment with gunfire/fire/etc

So a 770 will definitely run games at your resolution quite comfortably IMO


I'm amazed with your Crysis 2 results - patched up with the HD textures/DX11 etc that game officially benches like this:

http://hexus.net/tec...670-ftw/?page=6

Your average is actually above a 690 (i.e. SLI) ?

That correlates with my experience - for that game I *need* SLI with everything turned up! A 680 is managing a mere 36FPS by comparison? :s

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:53

So this (http://www.amazon.co...eywords=770 gtx) Should be a very good card and preform well? Haha Thanks guys. Will it be hard to over-clock btw as i'm new to over-clocking never mind a GPU:P

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 16:36

So this (http://www.amazon.co...eywords=770+gtx) Should be a very good card and preform well? Haha Thanks guys. Will it be hard to over-clock btw as i'm new to over-clocking never mind a GPU:P


I'd get this one, has 3 fans lol - http://www.amazon.co...sbs_computers_1

In all seriousness, do a quick search on Google to compare the different models and see which one comes out top for the price


I'm amazed with your Crysis 2 results - patched up with the HD textures/DX11 etc that game officially benches like this:

http://hexus.net/tec...670-ftw/?page=6

Your average is actually above a 690 (i.e. SLI) ?

That correlates with my experience - for that game I *need* SLI with everything turned up! A 680 is managing a mere 36FPS by comparison? :s


Just checked everything, I have dx11 and high res texture pack, only thing I have disabled is motion blur as I don't like it. I've ran benchmarks and it performs better than the 680.. Probably because it's overclocked I'm not sure.

#20 Andre S.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 16:58

The best 770 is the ASUS Direct CU II, if you can afford the price premium. It runs cooler and more silently than the other models, and it also has a decent factory overclock. This is pretty much my dream video card at the moment, if you can afford it I envy you :p

#21 Muhammad Farrukh

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 17:01

Guru3D has almost all the variants of 770 reviewed. Have a look there

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:20

The best 770 is the ASUS Direct CU II, if you can afford the price premium. It runs cooler and more silently than the other models, and it also has a decent factory overclock. This is pretty much my dream video card at the moment, if you can afford it I envy you :p


I have looked at that one as i'm not the biggest fan of MSI. I was thinking of the Asus, but if it can be over-clocked easy enough without blowing up on the stock cooler i think i will go for that rather than the MSI. They should perform just the same, right ;D

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:17

They have automatic overclocking built in if I remember correctly, but they're very easy to overclock and tend to be cool cards too

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:37

Unless you're looking to game at beyond 1080p a 2 gig card should suffice, the 2GB 670 will probably be the best choice if you want a fair compromise between power and cost

Completly agree, unless your on multi monitor gaming or above 1080p gaming you don't need to shell out for the 4GB card, and for the $20 price diff the 670 is worth it.


Would an AMD 7970 cope with gaming at 2560x1440? My current 2GB 7770 can struggle at the higher graphics settings at full-res.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 13:12

Would an AMD 7970 cope with gaming at 2560x1440? My current 2GB 7770 can struggle at the higher graphics settings at full-res.


Yep that should do easily. It beats my 670 in tests, even beats the 680 and the 770 in most aspects


Heres a good site to compare cards - http://gpuboss.com/g...GeForce-GTX-680

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 13:28

I'm amazed with your Crysis 2 results - patched up with the HD textures/DX11 etc that game officially benches like this:

http://hexus.net/tec...670-ftw/?page=6

Your average is actually above a 690 (i.e. SLI) ?

That correlates with my experience - for that game I *need* SLI with everything turned up! A 680 is managing a mere 36FPS by comparison? :s


Looked into the results beating the 690 card and ran a benchmark and it seems other 670's beat the 690 too, I guess it all depends on how much you overclock:

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#27 Muhammad Farrukh

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 13:35

770 = 7790 GHz edition > 680 > 7790 > 670

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 11:27

Looks to me like SLI isn't working at all there since it's practically the same as a single GPU (the 680).   At 15% faster than a stock 680 you're still a long way off SLI - as per that original bench the 690 is double that of an overclocked 670 at 1600p which is a fair comparison.  Can't say i've used that bench though - I prefer gaming benchmarks. 

 Something doesn't add up - unless somebody sneaked an extra GPU onto your card, enabled SLI and didn't tell you  ;)   Even allowing for the small drop in pixels (1440p) you shouldn't be seeing an 'average' framerate (which takes all the drops and rises into account) of 70fps at that resolution - otherwise nvidia won't be selling many SLI sets this year :)   

 

I find SLI scales really well on almost everything (so long as the drivers are up to date but they generally are) - I have a LCD monitoring my system and it displays individual GPU usage so I notice when things aren't right pretty quick (you usually see 1% on the second card).   I'm overclocked (2600k @ 5ghz) for reference.  

 

Looked into the results beating the 690 card and ran a benchmark and it seems other 670's beat the 690 too, I guess it all depends on how much you overclock:

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 11:52

Looks to me like SLI isn't working at all there since it's practically the same as a single GPU (the 680).   At 15% faster than a stock 680 you're still a long way off SLI - as per that original bench the 690 is double that of an overclocked 670 at 1600p which is a fair comparison.  Can't say i've used that bench though - I prefer gaming benchmarks. 

 Something doesn't add up - unless somebody sneaked an extra GPU onto your card, enabled SLI and didn't tell you  ;)   Even allowing for the small drop in pixels (1440p) you shouldn't be seeing an 'average' framerate (which takes all the drops and rises into account) of 70fps at that resolution - otherwise nvidia won't be selling many SLI sets this year :)   

 

I find SLI scales really well on almost everything (so long as the drivers are up to date but they generally are) - I have a LCD monitoring my system and it displays individual GPU usage so I notice when things aren't right pretty quick (you usually see 1% on the second card).   I'm overclocked (2600k @ 5ghz) for reference.  

It'd be good if someone did sneak in and add an extra gpu lol.. Think that will be my next upgrade, to just add another 670 though.. but at the moment it's working well for me :)

 

About the average framerates, bf3 was the one which jumped the most, in none action was around 100fps and full action (shooting & fire etc) dropped to the steady 90.. same situations for the other games. Maybe I've just got a good overclocker, but it's preforming great for me