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#76 Graimer

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 15:19

Family sharing required you to download the game when you played it from any other console than the one you own, i.e a friend's. So yes, you would have had to download the 20+ GB game without the disc. The only positive in the scenario was you could begin playing before the download complete. Same goes for installing games from the disc, even after the policy changes iirc.

 

It's said that they could access your games over the cloud, it did not say that disc-based install wasn't available for them too. The whole benefit of the family sharing was being able to download it, so that was never a problem.

 

ALSO, I never mentioned family sharing in that comment. I said I wanted to install the game from disc.. for myself. If I pay $60 for a game, I'd like to play it as fast as possible.




#77 compl3x

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 15:52

 

Why would we want to download 40gb if we could install from disc in 15 mins or whatever?  It's a difference between playing with disc and installing from disc.

 

 

40gb is a completely random number you pulled out of thin air, but if it was true, wouldn't you have to download the shared game anyway? If it was cloud based, it would be prohibitive for anyone without a fast enough connection rendering the function useless for a lot of people.

 

Honestly, did anyone think that 1 user could give full access of his library to 10 other users? Allowing them to complete his games without having purchased them? If the used gaming market was hurting the developers then this feature would kill them. 

 

 

 

Yes. Some people thought MS had suffered brain damage and were going to allow such a system.

 

that name sounds familiar, didn't he post here under the same name?

Edit: He did, banned for some reason.

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I recognized that name immediately. Wonder why he was banned.



#78 MindTrickz

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 16:05

It doesn't work like that, most likely you could only be in one share "circle" meaning you can't be in two families. and most likely only one person could play a game at the same time. and there was a chance that only one or two persons could access a shared library at once anyway.

 

which would make it no worse than sharing discs today for that, in some ways better for the devs, and in many ways better for the gamers. 

 

either way it wouldn't work like your scenario as even if you could be in multiple families, you couldn't re-share from one circle to another. 

 

Yeah, you do not know that. All Microsoft said was that you could share it with 10 family members from you friends list. If user A, shares a games with user B, then there is nothing stating that user B can not share his own games with C.  Families are massive. Brothers, sisters, cousins of all kind, in-laws etc and could well excede 10 people.

 

What that means is that the 10 family members that my brother share his games with, of which I am one of, do not necessarily have to be  the same family members that I have to share my games with.



#79 JonnyLH

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 16:07

He posted on Neowin for quite a while and want to the extremes to defend anything Microsoft.

After he tried to convince me the 2.5" SATA hard drives Microsoft used in the Xbox 360 were special in some way, to ensure "data integrity & security on the platform" despite me showing him a 1TB internal drive in my 360 I didn't take anything he had to say seriously.

Yeah considering his LinkedIn doesn't actually match up with what he's saying. I hold more credit to the original rumor.



#80 kaotic

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 19:17

Yeah considering his LinkedIn doesn't actually match up with what he's saying. I hold more credit to the original rumor.

 

There's multiple MS employees saying it wasn't a demo.

 

 



#81 vcfan

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 19:23

There's multiple MS employees saying it wasn't a demo.

 

 

 

thank you. this settles it.



#82 BajiRav

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 19:31

There's multiple MS employees saying it wasn't a demo.

 

 

They are paid by Microsoft for lying, pastebin is more trustworthy.

 

 

 

 

/s



#83 +warwagon

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 19:41

Hmm front page says 60 mins this says 45



#84 George P

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 19:49

Yeah, I wonder who will believe who, the no name "source" calling it a demo or the official named MS employees who say that there was no time limit and it wasn't a demo at all?

 

I think those two tweets put this thing to rest.



#85 Doli

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 19:50

I think its rumour is false because nobody can be that stupid to suggest that if one person buys a game then 10 people can try a timed demo and gamers would be cool with that idea at a meeting and calling it "family sharing". I know they cant have every game have a full install timed demo because that would be fun when somone cracks the console and can just download free games removing the timed demo. Maybe a two console setup, one to get on Live to download the games and then they transfer it to the second console that stays offline.



#86 ahhell

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 19:52

Change the title from "Rumour" to "debunked"



#87 trooper11

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 20:04

This was an interesting rumor for sure, but it seems clear that it not true.

 

Now maybe they had considered such a program, but then decided they needed to offer more than just an hour long demo. Aaron Greenberg said it as clearly as you can that they intended to offer full access as they originally stated.

 

He also pointed out that they are working to still include such features. My guess is that they are tweaking their system to be an 'opt-in' for gamers that want to buy a digital copy and get access to the sharing features. If they do it right, I can see it driving digital sales.



#88 slapfacemcdougal

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 20:10

It doesn't seem clear that it's not true. We won't know because it most likely won't see the light of day anytime soon. If they had implemented a time limit, it won't be there in the future. 

 



#89 Zedox

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 20:13

There's multiple MS employees saying it wasn't a demo.

 

 

 

 

Thank you, now I can go back to bitching about not having it anymore. *sigh*

 

I think everyone who wants this feature (and others like the fast switching) should just download all of their games. We need to be in preparation of this feature. I know I am.



#90 svnO.o

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 20:14

 

Now maybe they had considered such a program, but then decided they needed to offer more than just an hour long demo. Aaron Greenberg said it as clearly as you can that they intended to offer full access as they originally stated.

 

He also pointed out that they are working to still include such features. My guess is that they are tweaking their system to be an 'opt-in' for gamers that want to buy a digital copy and get access to the sharing features. If they do it right, I can see it driving digital sales.

 

I'm hoping the 'opt-in' feature will be coming myself. Family sharing would be a great feature.