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#1 ACTIONpack

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 07:41

Like with most people know. Last week was a big deal for gay rights with DOMA and Prob 8 striking down. With the gays being happy for this the opposed view see it different. They say that the real reason they opposed it is because of the kids, unnaturally and people will get married to other animals or polygamous(common type of marriage a long time ago). The truth behind most of it is that the bible says that a man can't lay with an other man. That's pretty much it. Everything else they bring up is stuff that is pretty up untrue. There is also the unknown that people are scared of to but religious pretty much it.((


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 07:52

Most people I know object to the use of the word marriage.

 

If you named it anything else, a large chunk of people would be ok with it..

 

Also, nice generalisations there..



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 07:57

Scared of the unknown? Come on it's 2013, who is homophobic now days?

 

Am I gay? No. But who am I or anyone else to say who can and cannot get married?

 

As for the Bible, if it stated to jump off a bridge, would you? (Not directed to OP, just a question to think to yourselves to who ever reads this)



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 07:57

yeah like 'civil union'.



#5 Open Minded

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 08:33

What's funny is California voted for Obama,  yet... Prop 8 passed?  Explain that.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 08:46

What happen to the separation between church and state? They will probably refine the law saying that only 2 human beings can get married. Which will exclude Animals and polygamy.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:06

Stop. Just stop.

 

I have nothing against gays nor them marrying each other  but this day-to-day propaganda about it is really getting too much already. Yay! You got your rights. Now shut the hell up already and go get married.

 

People who are opposed to it have different views on things, big deal, live with it, not everyone is like you or as tolerant as you.

 

I'm sorry if I offend someone by saying this but this is how I feel about it.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:17

@alwaysonacoffebreak

 

I got your point, but put yourself in to our shoes and you hopefully you can see the importance this is too us. Everyone wants to be treated equally. Also the fight isn't over. :-(



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:23

Don't get me wrong, I'd say the same thing to the people who are against you getting married, to get over it, it's none of their business. Nor is it mine.

 

Just I'd like gays to turn it down a notch, I understand you have to prove a point but does it really mean you have to do it day in day out in the media? There are better ways.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:30

Scared of the unknown? Come on it's 2013, who is homophobic now days?

 

Am I gay? No. But who am I or anyone else to say who can and cannot get married?

 

As for the Bible, if it stated to jump off a bridge, would you? (Not directed to OP, just a question to think to yourselves to who ever reads this)

Russia, Uganda, Nigeria....



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:41

As a non-practicing Catholic, I've never had an issue with gay marriage or rights and neither has any priest I've known.  I do have a problem with the attitude that I receive occasionally (as a straight man) from same sex couples.  It happens fairly infrequently and usually from women, but it comes off as arrogance.  I totally support equal rights and freedoms, I just get tired of the occasional lack of social etiquette and reciprocation of respect.   



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 15:19

What I'd love is for someone to tell me whose rights are being taken away if there was same sex marriage - not adoption, IVF treatment etc. but marriage as a stand alone issue.

 

Btw, for those opposing same sex marriage, you have a right to your opinion but you don't have a right for your opinion to be left unchallenged. If your opinion is based on a solid ground then you should welcome the subject so then you can debate based on the merits of your case.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 15:33

 The truth behind most of it is that the bible says that a man can't lay with an other man. That's pretty much it. Everything else they bring up is stuff that is pretty up untrue. There is also the unknown that people are scared of to but religious pretty much it.((

 

That's not what it says actually. If you properly translate what it says you get that for a man to lay with another men (= human being) instead of his own, so if he were to commit adultery.

 

In general what the bible speaks of does in no way imply that homosexuality is abnormal nor does it say it is sinful anywhere. It is the 'modern' interpretation of it that makes that claim. If you translate what is written to the time it was written in it has a completely different meaning. In the time the Bible was written it was quite normal for humans to have sexual relations of the same sex. It was also normal for older men to marry and have sex with girls around 12-13. Does that mean that people in those days were paedophiles?



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 15:39

Don't get me wrong, I'd say the same thing to the people who are against you getting married, to get over it, it's none of their business. Nor is it mine.

 

Just I'd like gays to turn it down a notch, I understand you have to prove a point but does it really mean you have to do it day in day out in the media? There are better ways.

 

When a group of people are oppressed as much as homosexuals still are in America sometimes you have to do that to get your point across. Once they have those rights then things will return to normal. Europe isn't all that homophobic any more so sometimes it's hard for us to appreciate how bad it can be but I certainly wouldn't want to be a gay person in the states if I lived outside of New York. Things are changing though, soon you'll be able to go back to your bubble they will be able to go back to theirs and it won't be an issue any more but social progression always takes time.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 15:41


This, And they have a perverted definition of "religious freedom" called "religious liberty" which means the right for christians to force their religious views onto everyone else through state and federal law