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#1 +bman

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 01:55

I am having an issue with YouTube having very slow buffering speeds at nighttime, around 6PM or later. Now I don't remember this being an issue before, and I have a new ISP. I am trying to figure out if it's them.

 

The issue though, is everything else seems fine. I did a speedtest, and though it seemed I got slower speeds, it was still WAY higher then needed for YouTube, and I think the test was a fluke.

 

I even went on Vimeo and other video sites, and they all load without issue.

 

 

So what the heck is wrong with YouTube? Anyone have ideas?




#2 blerk

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 02:10

Ars Technica has a good article on what sounds very much like your problem.

 

Below is are quotes I took from the article that I think describes your problem. 

 

In other words, bad video performance is often caused not just by technology problems but also by business decisions made by the companies that control the Internet.
 
These business decisions involve "peering" agreements that Internet companies make to pass traffic from one to another and negotiations over caching services that store videos closer to people's homes so they can load faster in your browser. When Internet providers refuse to upgrade peering connections, traffic gets congested. When ISPs refuse to use the caching services offered by the likes of Google and Netflix, video has to travel farther across the Internet to get to its final destination—your living room. 
 
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Instead, network operators can degrade traffic by failing to upgrade connections without severing them entirely. The public won't realize that's what's going on unless negotiations become so contentious that one party makes them public—or a government decides to investigate. 
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Degraded connections disproportionately affect the quality of streaming video because video requires far more bits than most other types of traffic.

 

 



#3 OP +bman

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 02:16

I don't really think that is the issue.

 

I never seemed to have this issue on my old ISP (Distributel). Distributel and my new one, VMedia are all using Rogers lines anyway. Which back in the day when I used Rogers, never had that issue. Unless of course, even with 3rd parties have a choice to upgrade those cache areas.

 

So I am thinking it's YouTube, but why would it randomly start doing this? 

 

That article is quite interesting though, and might be part of the issue at times.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 02:28

No problems here ever.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 03:27

Do ISPs throttle specific websites? I think that may be what is happening.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 03:34

Do ISPs throttle specific websites? I think that may be what is happening.

 

No



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 04:24

Use a different DNS like OpenDNS or Google DNS.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 04:28

.So I am thinking it's YouTube, but why would it randomly start doing this? 

 

 

It could be the new ISP uses different servers to connect to YouTube and that cause the slowdown. Like remixedcat said, I'd try OpenDNS or Google DNS.

 

#9 OP +bman

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 04:55

I already just switched to OpenDNS after doing some tests, it was 127% faster then the one I was on. Everything is faster, except YouTube.

 

It for sure get's better after that timeframe, 6ish to 10ish its per crap. And I didn't have this issue before, so they really cant throttle single sites...hmm



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:07

Try Google DNS



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 13:50

I know Virgin Media in the UK use cache servers to cache YouTube videos to save them money.. and these get overloaded at peak times causing all sorts of problems like buffering issues, low quality videos etc. This could be the same with other ISP's too that the cache proxy is being overloaded.



#12 Rohdekill

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 14:07

Funny how people always think its PC >> ISP >> Youtube without the possibility of multiple routers in between, any of which could be having an issue.



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 01:37

What does that mean? Any suggestions lol



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 01:44

No

Not entirely true. Some ISP's (TWC) do throttle Youtube streaming



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 02:26

I know Virgin Media in the UK use cache servers to cache YouTube videos to save them money.. and these get overloaded at peak times causing all sorts of problems like buffering issues, low quality videos etc. This could be the same with other ISP's too that the cache proxy is being overloaded.

 

 

Using different DNS will route you to different servers. 





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