I thought AMD once said they were getting out of the CPU game?

[flynempire]

I keep seeing on Newegg and here and many other places info on new AMD CPU's. I thought they were going to leave the market.

Those Vishera FX CPU's are getting good reviews and I may just get one for a new build. Good prices also.

[Draconian Guppy]

I keep seeing on Newegg and here and many other places info on new AMD CPU's. I thought they were going to leave the market.

Those Vishera FX CPU's are getting good reviews and I may just get one for a new build. Good prices also.

I remember reading they were going to focus on APUs instead of performance parts, hence why Vishera FX line up will not get an update in 2014.

 

off topic, IMO, the Vishera FX parts consume way too much power for what they offer, but thats just my 2cents.

[greenwizard88]

As Guppy said, they're only exiting the "CPU" game. They're investing heavily in the APU game (which is really just a marketing term for a CPU + GPU).

[flynempire]

Thanks for the info. Can you point me to any articles that talk about these CPU's and show tests?

Are those APU's going to be worth it? Also could you not turn off the integrated graphics and put in a discrete card?

[Draconian Guppy]

Thanks for the info. Can you point me to any articles that talk about these CPU's and show tests?

Are those APU's going to be worth it? Also could you not turn off the integrated graphics and put in a discrete card?

Intel has their own offerings as well and yes you can.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/170023-amd-vs-intel-the-ultimate-gaming-showdown-5ghz-fx-9590-vs-i7-4960x

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-9590+Eight-Core&id=2014

[flynempire]

Thanks Lippy. :)

Wow that is one tremendous rig in that article you sent!!  Sweet

[spaceelf]

AMD said repeatedly they haven't left the standalone CPU market at all, they just don't have a new part for 2014.

 

Personally using an A10-7850K with a 660...and it works better (for whatever reason) if I keep the AMD GPU enabled even without a display attached to it.

[Mockingbird]

AMD stopped making competitive gaming processors. Bulldozer was a flop and so was everything after.

 

What AMD need to do is make processors with higher IPC.

 

In my opinion, that means going back to traditional discrete cores and shorten the pipeline.

 

That AMD tried to make processors with as high a clock speed as possible is a flop. (Has AMD not learned from Intel?)

[ShadowMajestic]

AMD stopped making competitive gaming processors. Bulldozer was a flop and so was everything after.

 

What AMD need to do is make processors with higher IPC.

 

In my opinion, that means going back to traditional discrete cores and shorten the pipeline.

 

That AMD tried to make processors with as high a clock speed as possible is a flop. (Has AMD not learned from Intel?)

Flop depends on how you look at it.

Price-performance wise it still dominates.

And the XBO and PS4 went with a bulldozer based CPU......

[Max Norris]

off topic, IMO, the Vishera FX parts consume way too much power for what they offer, but thats just my 2cents.

This machine I'm sitting at at the moment is using a Vishera FX6300.. it does take a fair amount of juice (and gets rather toasty in the process), but wasn't an issue for this build, and overclocks really nicely, got this one overclocked by +1GHz, pretty happy with it considering what it cost.  Intel's would have been faster but for this build it didn't need state of the art and saved a few hundred in the process. This one's primarily for gaming, runs everything with max settings without complaint.  (With a decent GPU to go with it of course.)

[spaceelf]

Flop depends on how you look at it.

Price-performance wise it still dominates.

And the XBO and PS4 went with a bulldozer based CPU......

Jaguar, not Bulldozer.

[flynempire]

I have read that these CPU's are good for gaming. I am not a gamer though so I could not tell you from experience. I need to make a new build for family member and Newegg has these type of CPU in bundles but no hard drive. Still the prices are as low as $265.00 which is really nice.

They want to do photo editing, music play, web, videos, some light video editing and create slide shows with Pro Show Producer. I think this type of CPU would be good for that.

8 gigs of memory is what I need for them also

[Mockingbird]

Flop depends on how you look at it.

Price-performance wise it still dominates.

And the XBO and PS4 went with a bulldozer based CPU......

 

Xbox One and PlayStation 4 processors uses Jaguar cores not Bulldozer cores not Piledriver cores.

 

Also, in gaming, the Intel Core i5-4750 ($200) would be the **** out of the AMD FX-8350 (also $200).

[spaceelf]

I think people seriously underestimate HSA, Mantle and TrueAudio but only time will change any opinions on those.

 

I haven't been this impressed with AMD since before Core 2 Duo hit...whenever that was.

[Draconian Guppy]

AMD said repeatedly they haven't left the standalone CPU market at all, they just don't have a new part for 2014.

 

Personally using an A10-7850K with a 660...and it works better (for whatever reason) if I keep the AMD GPU enabled even without a display attached to it.

Yeah, they better get their ass in gear.

[DeadEndAccount]

What I think is interesting is their range of ARM processors that they're working on - in particular a standardised motherboard and chipset that should hopefully mean servers, workstations etc. being offered. Hopefully Microsoft will jump on and support it given that Linux distributions are already supporting or in the process of adding support.

[Mockingbird]

I haven't been this impressed with AMD since before Core 2 Duo hit...whenever that was.

 

The Phenom II series was pretty good.

 

The only problem is that AMD released it just after Intel released the first Core i7 processors.

[Draconian Guppy]

The Phenom II series was pretty good.

 

The only problem is that AMD released it just after Intel released the first Core i7 processors.

yeah phenom offerred pretty good bang for buck.. but yeah pretty much after the first i7 iterations, AMD is just not even in the same league, maybe and the beginning they had price/ratio, but with intel lowering prices each day, they are losing that bit now too.

[ShadowMajestic]

Jaguar, not Bulldozer.

Yeah okay, it is its weaker little low power brother.

[Mockingbird]

AMD said repeatedly they haven't left the standalone CPU market at all, they just don't have a new part for 2014.

 

Yeah, they better get their ass in gear.

 

AMD "hasn't" left the standalone CPU market. Roadmap showing AMD selling "Vishera" FX AM3+ all the way until at least the end of 2015!

 

Of cause by that time it will be AMD Vishera versus Intel Broadwell, so good luck with that.

[Draconian Guppy]

AMD "hasn't" left the standalone CPU market. Roadmap showing AMD selling "Vishera" FX AM3+ all the way until at least the end of 2015!

 

Of cause by that time it will be AMD Vishera versus Intel Broadwell, so good luck with that.

Yeah, not development in performance parts as I said in my previous posts. By then intel will be readying a new architecture as well...

[ShadowMajestic]

AMD "hasn't" left the standalone CPU market. Roadmap showing AMD selling "Vishera" FX AM3+ all the way until at least the end of 2015!

 

Of cause by that time it will be AMD Vishera versus Intel Broadwell, so good luck with that.

I do hope they won't leave :( I have no interest in an APU for my desktop and Intel is overrated.

 

AMD didn't lose any battle, the Intel fanboys made it lose. Thanks for that.

 

*coughs* http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcgameshardware.de%2FCrysis-3-PC-235317%2FTests%2FCrysis-3-Test-CPU-Benchmark-1056578%2F *coughs*

[Draconian Guppy]

I do hope they won't leave :( I have no interest in an APU for my desktop and Intel is overrated.

 

AMD didn't lose any battle, the Intel fanboys made it lose. Thanks for that.

 

*coughs* http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcgameshardware.de%2FCrysis-3-PC-235317%2FTests%2FCrysis-3-Test-CPU-Benchmark-1056578%2F *coughs*

http://www.amazon.com/FD9590FHHKWOF-Fx-9590-8-core-Black-Edition/dp/B00DGGW3MI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394034452&sr=8-1&keywords=amd+fx+9590  $342

 

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4770K-Quad-Core-Processor-BX80646I74770K/dp/B00CO8TBQ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394034464&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+4770k  $334

 

I don't see how intel is overrated, they offer a more efficient and as of now, cheaper processor than AMD. (Not to mention equally or better performing in most scenarios).

[Luc2k]

http://www.amazon.com/FD9590FHHKWOF-Fx-9590-8-core-Black-Edition/dp/B00DGGW3MI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394034452&sr=8-1&keywords=amd+fx+9590  $342

 

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4770K-Quad-Core-Processor-BX80646I74770K/dp/B00CO8TBQ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394034464&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+4770k  $334

 

I don't see how intel is overrated, they offer a more efficient and as of now, cheaper processor than AMD. (Not to mention equally or better performing in most scenarios).

Funny you keep linking the FX-9xxx CPUs which have no bang for buck and are aimed at people with too much money/that don't want to OC, yet use the 4770K instead of the i7 Extreme series where the top CPU costs 1000$. Bias much?

[Draconian Guppy]

Funny you keep linking the FX-9xxx CPUs which have no bang for buck and are aimed at people with too much money/that don't want to OC, yet use the 4770K instead of the i7 Extreme series where the top CPU costs 1000$. Bias much?

lolwut?

Comparing direct competitors on same price range?

 

In any case, almost every scenario intel pulls out on top:

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2013/benchmarks,140.html

 

Not bias, performance numbers... Like I said before, Intel is slowly trickling price down making the performance/price match AMDs.