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Today I got in the mail my workstation's upgrade to take it from a ho hum AMD A4 4000 to a beefier AMD ATHLON X4 760K, mind you, I ordered a tube of artic silver as a precaution having read  the reviews that these CPUs are on the hot side. Then, I discovered something quite peculiar about the heatsink upon wiping away the thermal paste that it came with from the factory. THERE IS ALMOST NO THERMAL PASTE! Seriously? a tube of artic silver is a measly $6.99, ok... rant over.

 

Guys, If you're going to go AMD, get a tube of artic silver, it pays dividends.

 

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They usually ship the heatsink with thermal tape on them already.  You remove the little plastic cover and it's good to go.

 

I don't use the heatsink or the goo it ships with cause I hate systems running hot.

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THERE IS ALMOST NO THERMAL PASTE!

 

That's how it's supposed to be. 

 

in fact the optimal mounting of a CPU heatsink is with absolutely NO thermal paste. but that requires perfect planar grinding of the copper surface of both the sink and CPU(and few peopel have the equipment to do that, much less the guts to go at grinding on their brand new CPU).

 

The reason you need thermal paste at all is because the surfaces aren't perfectly flat, which means you have tiny scratches with microscopic pockets of air, as you should know, air is a superb insulator. Copper to copper is a great conductor of heat on the other hand, thermal paste, even the best arctic silver while it's a good heat transfer material, is not even close to as good as copper to copper. therefore, optimally the paste should only fill the cracks, but because modern thermal paste(even the crap ones) are so good heat conductors having a thick layer or the perfect application of a super thin layer is only a couple of degrees at most. 

 

 

or tl;dr:
 

It really only takes a thin layer of thermal paste or arctic silver to do the job.

 

2/3'd of a BB - See their install guide - http://www.arcticsilver.com/PDF/appmeth/amd/md/amd_app_method_middle_dot_v1.3.pdf

 

You probably used WAY to much.

 

 

:p

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I made the cross over to an Intel I7-4700MQ system which got here yesterday after getting home from the hospital. This sucker rocks. probably obsolete in a couple months though.

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I made the cross over to an Intel I7-4700MQ system which got here yesterday after getting home from the hospital. This sucker rocks. probably obsolete in a couple months though.

Probably not. :p AFAIK 2500k's are still superior to current gen AMD processors in regards to single-threaded performance.

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Probably not. :p AFAIK 2500k's are still superior to current gen AMD processors in regards to single-threaded performance.

 

this processor according to CPU-ID has 8 threads. It has standard intel HD graphics but in this system they put in a Geforce 770M 3GB graphics. A Qosmio by Toshiba. they are pretty nice overall

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Today I got in the mail my workstation's upgrade to take it from a ho hum AMD A4 4000 to a beefier AMD ATHLON X4 760K, mind you, I ordered a tube of artic silver as a precaution having read  the reviews that these CPUs are on the hot side. Then, I discovered something quite peculiar about the heatsink upon wiping away the thermal paste that it came with from the factory. THERE IS ALMOST NO THERMAL PASTE! Seriously? a tube of artic silver is a measly $6.99, ok... rant over.

 

Guys, If you're going to go AMD, get a tube of artic silver, it pays dividends.

 

If You are going with AMD buy an aftermarket cooler. Seriously, I'm an hardcore AMD fan but their stock coolers suck. They gave the same cooler to and 9370, seriously? Even more it sounds like an yet engine when you get in under load.

 

I had an Evo 212 with the build I just put together and an stock AMD cooler, while I didn't have much time to put it together at first I just put on the original cooler and that ###### me off in a couple of hours already so I switched.

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Put the CPU under load :laugh:

 

Although I don't know if the Athlons can even produce so much power/heat as the 8 core FX's to stress the cooler.

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Probably not. :p AFAIK 2500k's are still superior to current gen AMD processors in regards to single-threaded performance.

 

And still with the single-threaded performance talk. New gen consoles are built up for multi-threaded, Windows 10 (Even 8.x) is purely being built for multi-threaded, Linux has been this way for ages now. Can we stop already? :)

 

Even on 32nm AMD is fully capable to mostly keep up in multi-threaded performance :) It would of course be nice to see AMD's new "Zen" core to deliver more but we need to wait until 2016 to know that.

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this processor according to CPU-ID has 8 threads. It has standard intel HD graphics but in this system they put in a Geforce 770M 3GB graphics. A Qosmio by Toshiba. they are pretty nice overall

 

threads is less important than physical cores though. a virtual core while hyperhtreading is more efficient than it was, is nothing like a real actual core. 

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threads is less important than physical cores though. a virtual core while hyperhtreading is more efficient than it was, is nothing like a real actual core. 

 

Ok, then we are talking 4 physical cores. actual cores., 16 GB ram, 1TB HDD and the juicy beast is the 3GB Nvidia Geforce 770M.

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