Dane Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 So I am going to be upgrading my 120 Samsung EVO SSD to a 256 model from them. I want to get a dock because I have no more room to connect it. Does anyone have either one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-SuperSpeed-Lay-Flat-Docking-ASM1053E/dp/B00APP6694/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1434978599&sr=8-15&keywords=SSD+Dockhttp://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External-Docking-Station-DS-UBLK/dp/B00IKAQ538/ref=sr_1_1?&ie=UTF8&qid=1434978599&sr=8-1&keywords=SSD+Dock&pebp=1434978610374&perid=1MAWZS18CT0JG8NFK41J I want to format the 120 gig drive and use it to store a backup of stuff and leave it in a safety deposit box. Would the SSD be ok in a safety deposit box, taken out every so often to add or change stuff? Should I store it in an anti static bag? or just the box it came in? Or would it be better to use an HDD for that? I was going to upload my stuff to the cloud as a back up, but at 3MB upload, it's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted June 22, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2015 3MB/s isnt too shabby.... or did you mean 3Mbit/s honestly, i dont know anything about storing data on an SSD for long periods. im sure it's fine, but maybe you just want to keep it protected in a static bag and a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 3MB/s isnt too shabby.... or did you mean 3Mbit/s honestly, i dont know anything about storing data on an SSD for long periods. im sure it's fine, but maybe you just want to keep it protected in a static bag and a box. 3 Mbps upload speed is what I have. 70 gigs worth of pictures. Takes a little bit of time. I didn't take notice until now, but according to crash plan (using the trial), I have a little of 80% backed up. So that's not too bad, maybe I'll just finish it out and buy their sub. Still interested in knowing more about storing an SSD long term though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billaguana Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Well lets break down, simply, what the comparison of the two would be. Take away everything else about the drives and just think about how they store data. The SSD would be holding, essentially, an electrical mapping of the data. Although SSD have really come far, I wouldn't trust something like that to be able to consistently hold data when disconnected form power for extended periods of time. Opposing the SSD, a HDD physically writes the data on a disk. Now, I am not promoting that HDD are invulnerable, as anyone who has ever touched a computer would know, but they are a bit more reliable in the long run for things like data backups. Although the backup might take longer, the data is securely written onto a physical disk inside the HDD, and disk that, if necessary, can be sent off to a clean room with data pens and actually retrieve the data off them in the best possible manner. For things like active computing, SSDs are awesome, with their speed is unbeatable and just outright amazing. But for things like data preservation and redundancy, I would always rely on something physical in my hand. And as for the 3MB upload speed, you really won't notice its effect on you with cloud backups. Although the initial upload may take some time, everything after that should be a breeze in the wind. I have suggested cloud backups in the past, the ones with sub fees, mainly because you are backing up to data servers that are redundantly raided to prevent loss of data. Depending on the service you choose, just make sure to schedule a residual check every night and let it do its thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fahim S. MVC Posted June 22, 2015 MVC Share Posted June 22, 2015 SSDs have been reported to 'forget' if left unconnected for long periods of time. I personally would put this backup on a spinning disc or in the cloud - but I am a little paranoid like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted June 22, 2015 MVC Share Posted June 22, 2015 I would say take that info about loss of data on no power to your ssd with a grain of salt. There are a lot of ifs in the scenario. Data written at very high temps, then stored at cold temps, also ssd near end of life, etc. etc. From what I have read there is no issues with storage in your ssd with no power for very long periods of time. But if your looking for long term archival storage of your files - say in a deposit box, I would prob write it to mdisc. This is what I do for my home movies that I store at my son's place as one of the legs in my backup/dr of critical data like home videos. I believe its more cost effective gb/$ that way.. Where you can get say 25GB mdisc for <$5, this makes more sense to me for something that will not change over time and is your archival copy then putting in on SSD at what approx 5x the cost. That is if you have a burner to be able to use mdisc, which more an more devices do. Multiple disks in the house - in different systems no real time connection, optical media copies (mdisc - suppose to last 1000 years). Normal optical disks on the shelf, and then of course online copies. crashplan gave a year away free awhile back here on neowin. Using that and also have copy in amazon glacier (1 cent per GB - so currently about 85 cents a month). And then copy on my online server that is used for real time access to the videos for friends and family, etc. When it comes to backup/archival of your critical files - you can never have too many copies in different geographic locations You can not replace Billy's first steps or Susan's 2nd bday party, etc. The big question in long term storage of any sort of file type, is ability to read the media and or file type in say 10 years. Be it the copy is pristine or not.. Will we even have optical media in 10 years? Will sata even be a connection option? How many floppies do you see these days? Does your computer even have a PATA connection for example? While mkv and mp4 are common containers today using h.262 or h.264 will that be still viable in 10, 15 years? Part of you your plan for archival would have to include migration to new standards for media and format of the files, etc. If your talking keeping these files for the next gen of people - like home movies. Example - how do you watch those old 8mm movies your pop/grandpop has stored, or even vhs/beta - my wedding for example was on beta Even if the tape was still good - how would I read it? They stop even making beta players years ago. goretsky 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Thanks for all the info! I think I won't go the SSD way. Cloud and other media wins I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted June 22, 2015 Veteran Share Posted June 22, 2015 Thanks for all the info! I think I won't go the SSD way. Cloud and other media wins I think. Redundancy is key when it comes to backing up sensitive information. If it's truly worth a lot to you, then you'll want to use a cloud backup solution in conjunction with multiple mechanical hard drives. SSDs are good for speed, not storage capacity. It doesn't make sense to pay more for something you don't need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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