anog Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Microsoft has put up a webpage where you can download and install beta versions of the Express packages of Visual Studio.Net 2005, including J#, C#, VB.Net, C++, SQL Server 2005 and Web Dev. Enjoy! VS.Net 2005 Express Downloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Steven Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 So is "Express Edition" some sort of Beginners type deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 anog Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 I can't tell, I haven't downloaded yet. But from what I've read somewhere here at Neowin, it's another edition, just like Standart, Professional, etc I'd say it's less than the Standart Edition. But can't tell... Maybe it will be a free version :woot: :woot: :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rek Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 is it free :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 anog Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 Now it is, but that's because it's a beta... I say it might be a free version in the future (when it's released) as a way to get programmers to use .Net... After all, the compilers are already free and there are some free IDEs to use it... Like Webmatrix or SharpDevelop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 STV Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 its described as a version of visual studio (different flavors of express for different uses) for non-professional developers that dont really need all of the other addons. here is the website (http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/). very nice design, IMO. STV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 anog Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 Has anybody downloaded and run it yet? I can't download right now, only at night... Screenshots would be welcomed too ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 AthemeX Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 The express version is aimed for non-professional use, like hobbist etc.. I guess many features will be disabled course i've read somewhere that express edition is just to get developers started for a much lower price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CoolShady2002 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Here is the first screen I was presented with using the C# IDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Dan C Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Here is the first screen I was presented with using the C# IDE. Look alot nicer! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 anog Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 And how is it compared with Visual Studio.Net 2002 or 2003? And what features does it lack (since it's express)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dazzla Veteran Posted June 29, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 29, 2004 # Are the Express Edition products free? We have not announced pricing and licensing and will not do so until next calendar year. For the time being, we can tell you that the Express Editions will be low-cost and will continue to be easy to acquire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Dan C Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 And how is it compared with Visual Studio.Net 2002 or 2003?And what features does it lack (since it's express)? It might lack a compiler... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 anog Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 It might lack a compiler... Well, that wouldn't make sense... The compilers are free with the .Net Framework SDK, you don't need Visual Studio.net to make .Net applications, just the SDK and a text editor like Notepad. Unless they take the compilers off the SDK in the next version of the framework... :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Dan C Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Well, that wouldn't make sense...The compilers are free with the .Net Framework SDK, you don't need Visual Studio.net to make .Net applications, just the SDK and a text editor like Notepad. Unless they take the compilers off the SDK in the next version of the framework... :no: Good point, so I wonder what features are missing then :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CoolShady2002 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 And how is it compared with Visual Studio.Net 2002 or 2003?And what features does it lack (since it's express)? The interface is a whole lot nicer. I personally prefer the newer toolbars. I found the others harder to customize. It was kind of difficult to distunguish where they started and where they ended. These new ones are easier to see. I haven't had a crash or problem in the last 20 minutes, so that's a bonus. I can't really say anything about features, because I don't use everything, but I haven't found anything missing, which prevents me from doing the coding I usually do ( Simple stuff ), so for people like me it is perfect. There are also many improvements that I have noticed here and there which are a big bonus. I suspect I will find many more too. Has anyone checked out the Product Feedback center on MSDN? Very very cool. Product Feedback Center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Frank84 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 thanx anog :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 adam.sproul Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 It is downloading now :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 redfish Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/ <--- is it me or does anyone else hate how every corporate website or print design is full with pictures of smiling people that have nothing to do with the product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Steven Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 # Are the Express Edition products free?We have not announced pricing and licensing and will not do so until next calendar year. For the time being, we can tell you that the Express Editions will be low-cost and will continue to be easy to acquire. Probably about 99.00. The C|NET article says in "Tens-of-dollars" while the full version will be around 2,000.00 :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 anog Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 Visual Basic.net Standard 2003 and C# standard (only now I saw it was "Standard" and not "Standart" :blink: :pinch:) already sells for about 100 dolars each. Maybe they'll sell the whole Visual Studio.net 2005 Express suite for 100 dolars? :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 John Veteran Posted June 29, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 29, 2004 It's free for now because it's a beta product. Once it's final, I'm sure it won't be free :yes: Very nice, but I can't figure out how to save a solution/project :unsure: Bug? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 John Veteran Posted June 29, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 29, 2004 is it me or does anyone else hate how every corporate website or print design is full with pictures of smiling people that have nothing to do with the product It's called marketing :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Dan C Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 It's free for now because it's a beta product. Once it's final, I'm sure it won't be free :yes:Very nice, but I can't figure out how to save a solution/project :unsure: Bug? :huh: Works fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glowstick Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Just wrote some 550 lines of code right now. Seems stable and fast, and I'm not yet missing features. We'll see later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 RDX1 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Anyway to actually download the real installer files, not the one that connects to a server and downloads them? I already have Visual Basic .NET Standard, might be nice to try C# and C++, I downloaded both express versions. I found this before and was going to post it, but wanted to check first. (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Microsoft has put up a webpage where you can download and install beta versions of the Express packages of Visual Studio.Net 2005, including J#, C#, VB.Net, C++, SQL Server 2005 and Web Dev.
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