Pink Floyd Veteran Posted March 9, 2005 Veteran Share Posted March 9, 2005 between the 3, onkyo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted March 9, 2005 Veteran Share Posted March 9, 2005 Onkyo for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Socling Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 The major difference between Denon and the rest is how they rate their amps. Sony will be glad to slap a 100x5 (wattage) sticker on their POS amps and ship em out the door. But a "100" watt sony amp cant touch a 65 watt Denon amp. Denon has a seperate amp PER CHANNEL. That is huge. Thats how they enable true 5/6 channel stereo...with much less distortion...and much greater sound quality than sony. 585593228[/snapback] you have that right! I have an old harmon/kardon 730 (vintage, not old :cool:), and it is rated at 40x2...but that is the most powerful 40 watts I've ever heard :devil: build quality is so much more important than the 'rating' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscheatsforyou Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 this guy know what he's talking about, i m geting onkyo this time, in a year or few i get Denon.!! thank you everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscheatsforyou Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 and in the end Onkyo loses by one point and Denon, Wins :woot: ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statikk Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I <3 my Yamaha HTR-5790! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoue Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) If you want real quality you should look at B&K, Krell, Sunfire, Rotel, etc. component systems. But those are also mucho expensive. If you want good quality performance versus money look at Marantz and Denon. They are by far the best for the money. Edited March 16, 2005 by Zoue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscheatsforyou Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 i can sure learn alot from you guys, i never heard of Marantz , sound cool im looking at it right now is Marantz japanese or american ? or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuarterSwede Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) Denon, by far wins this race. I have been involved in custom home theater prof installation sine 96...and nothing in this range comes close. For the money, Denon has something on every single price level. You can get an AVR1604 that has PLENTY of power (for its price range) and also has 6.1 capability, and 5/6 channel stereo...for like 330 bucks. Thats crazy.The major difference between Denon and the rest is how they rate their amps. Sony will be glad to slap a 100x5 (wattage) sticker on their POS amps and ship em out the door. But a "100" watt sony amp cant touch a 65 watt Denon amp. Denon has a seperate amp PER CHANNEL. That is huge. Thats how they enable true 5/6 channel stereo...with much less distortion...and much greater sound quality than sony. Onkyo has some decent high end stuff...but it doesnt touch Denon or Marantz when it comes to sound quality. And their lower price range stuff really cant run with Denon. I have worked with Sony, Pioneer in great detail...and they too fall short. If you want to shell out 10k and get something better than Denon, you can...its called McIntosh. To the one who said Denon was complete junk, I hope you were joking. 585593228[/snapback] I agree, Denon is good but I think Marantz is a bit too high priced (like monster cables) ... great quality but overpriced. Onkyo receivers are good for their price range. In the end the only "best" audio equipment is equipment that supports seperate components (ie. preamp, tuner, etc.). That will give you the lowest crosstalk and the highest sound quality. Funny thing is, if your hearing isn't better than normal you won't hear the difference. And for the price of the equipment, you may as well own your own studio. Edited March 16, 2005 by Jstphish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebOrbiter Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 i can sure learn alot from you guys, i never heard of Marantz , sound cool im looking at it right now is Marantz japanese or american ? or what? 585622117[/snapback] As far as I can tell, Marantz used to be American, but were bought somewhere along the way by a Japanese company. My Dad bought one in the 70's when they were still American, that was top-of-the-line back then with tubes and such, and it still works today. I think when my Dad finally upgrades his receiver, he'll go with Marantz once again. But until then I will be checking into Denon as well. Someone I talked to today was just mentioning the same thing about wattage not being everything. So I vote Marantz, even though it's not on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamagrad03 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Check this out: Denon AVR-1905 new for 360 bucks. DD - 7.1 DTS EX - 6.1 7 Channels of equal power amplification (individual amps) 5/6/7 channel stereo and....DUAL ZONE! True 2 Source, 2 Zone functionality with Discrete Power, Source Select and Volume control for each zone http://abesofmaine.com/viewproduct.asp?id=dnavr1905 FOR 360 BUCKS! Dual zone is bad ass btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argote Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Specialty mostly unkown ridiculously priced High End Brands > Denon > Onkyo > Yamaha > Mainstream Consumer Brands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se7en.hu Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Specialty mostly unkown ridiculously priced High End Brands > Denon > Onkyo > Yamaha > Mainstream Consumer Brands 585652801[/snapback] Bang & Olufson > Bowers & Wilkins > Rotel > Proton > etc. Yes they kick ass, got a Onkyo myself loving it too :turned: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivand Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Denon is amazing, My incle have one of those recievers and they are teh sh*t :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedogg Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Denon, by far wins this race. I have been involved in custom home theater prof installation sine 96...and nothing in this range comes close. For the money, Denon has something on every single price level. You can get an AVR1604 that has PLENTY of power (for its price range) and also has 6.1 capability, and 5/6 channel stereo...for like 330 bucks. Thats crazy.The major difference between Denon and the rest is how they rate their amps. Sony will be glad to slap a 100x5 (wattage) sticker on their POS amps and ship em out the door. But a "100" watt sony amp cant touch a 65 watt Denon amp. Denon has a seperate amp PER CHANNEL. That is huge. Thats how they enable true 5/6 channel stereo...with much less distortion...and much greater sound quality than sony. Onkyo has some decent high end stuff...but it doesnt touch Denon or Marantz when it comes to sound quality. And their lower price range stuff really cant run with Denon. I have worked with Sony, Pioneer in great detail...and they too fall short. If you want to shell out 10k and get something better than Denon, you can...its called McIntosh. To the one who said Denon was complete junk, I hope you were joking. 585593228[/snapback] good review, advice, feedback (Y) Will keep that in mind when it comes time to purchase a system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamaxman Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 good review, advice, feedback (Y) Will keep that in mind when it comes time to purchase a system 585653373[/snapback] I have been an audiophile for over 20 years, and I have used just about everything. I can tell you the absolute best reciever made is the Sunfire line by Bob Carver (the guy who pioneered the solidstate amplifiers we all use). Check it out. They drive low impeedence loads as well. http://www.oade.com/Home_theater/Sunfire/U...e_Receiver.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubNinja Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Onkyo :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumTrickery Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Never could stand the idea of getting a receiver, I've got to have my components all as seperates. Nice to see at least someone knows truly quality audio, which is none of the 3 brands you've mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mircleman Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Denon, by far wins this race. I have been involved in custom home theater prof installation sine 96...and nothing in this range comes close. For the money, Denon has something on every single price level. You can get an AVR1604 that has PLENTY of power (for its price range) and also has 6.1 capability, and 5/6 channel stereo...for like 330 bucks. Thats crazy.The major difference between Denon and the rest is how they rate their amps. Sony will be glad to slap a 100x5 (wattage) sticker on their POS amps and ship em out the door. But a "100" watt sony amp cant touch a 65 watt Denon amp. Denon has a seperate amp PER CHANNEL. That is huge. Thats how they enable true 5/6 channel stereo...with much less distortion...and much greater sound quality than sony. Onkyo has some decent high end stuff...but it doesnt touch Denon or Marantz when it comes to sound quality. And their lower price range stuff really cant run with Denon. I have worked with Sony, Pioneer in great detail...and they too fall short. If you want to shell out 10k and get something better than Denon, you can...its called McIntosh. To the one who said Denon was complete junk, I hope you were joking. 585593228[/snapback] nope pure 100% junk period. if you went into a high end home system design of any quality and said dennon they would laugh you out of the store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamagrad03 Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Thats interesting considering I worked in a high end home theater store for 4 years and our best seller was denon. We sold Klipsch, Defenitive Technologies, Onkyo, Marantz, Paradigm...etc. And did many 6 figure systems...backed by denon receivers. We NEVER could sell our Pioneer Elite or sony stuff... The only thing better than Denon are some high end seperates or McIntosh/Carver/Sunfire. But the rate of return based on how much more you will spend for those is marginal at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holgr Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 No Marantz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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