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[quote]On November 8th 2006 Microsoft released Windows Vista the 6th Major release of the windows operating system to computer manufacturers globally. who at the time began offering it as an option on their computers alongside the 5 years mature Windows XP. Immediately Vista

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i love how no one remembers how crappy XP was when it was first released. people wouldnt leave their beloved Windows 98SE.

no one remembers all the threads about gaming on XP vs 98? OMG 98 IS SO MUCH FASTER FOR GAMING.

people hate vista today b/c theyre misinformed. "what do you mean i cant run vista on my machine i bought from HP in 2001?"
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I dont hate vista but its just i like windows 7 better.

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Windows 7 is Windows Vista with a new image.
The vast majority of the changes (and damage) was done in Vista, in comparison Windows 7 is a very low-risk investment.

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the explorer interface changes in vista probly didnt help its popularity either.

the interface in 98/xp was largely similar so not many people had a problem with it because it didnt really change.

with vista there was the removal of the classic start menu and the toolbar with the buttons on it which i think were the major parts of the GUI the people missed.

now that people have gotten used to using the new explorer in vista they dont mind so much when upgrading to win 7 because its the same.


agreed on the points in the OP post too :p

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I hated Vista because it launched with so many problems and was surrounded by a fanfare of BS. Many of you will no-doubt remeber when Halo 2 was going to be 'Vista' exclusive and one of the questions was "So why are Microsoft making Halo 2 only work on Vista and not XP?" and the answer was something completely unrelated and marketing-droid-ized to do with Vista bringing 'clarity to your world' - not actually answering the question.

Frankly that kind of stuff got my back up and I was so put off it, and had run into some big issues when I first tried it, I stayed well away and reccommended most folks that I knew to do the same.

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[quote name='Jdawg683' post='592033154' date='Dec 29 2009, 03:30']i love how no one remembers how crappy XP was when it was first released.

people hate vista today b/c theyre misinformed.[/quote]
Is it normal to you that an expensive OS is crappy when it's new? :x

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[quote name='CuCumber' post='592033254' date='Dec 28 2009, 19:58']Is it normal to you that an expensive OS is crappy when it's new? :x[/quote]

Neither XP nor Vista was really crappy at launch, despite what the media wanted everyone to think.

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Vista was fine for me, stable as a rock.

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[quote name='still1' post='592033208' date='Dec 28 2009, 11:45']I dont hate vista but its just i like windows 7 better.[/quote]

Yup! Couldn't have said it better myself.

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[quote name='CuCumber' post='592033254' date='Dec 28 2009, 18:58']Is it normal to you that an expensive OS is crappy when it's new? :x[/quote]
the beta of Vista was crappy. I had Vista just a few months after launch and it was a solid OS. Then again, i wasnt using legacy hardware like the majority of people.

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[quote name='CuCumber' post='592033254' date='Dec 28 2009, 11:58']Is it normal to you that an expensive OS is crappy when it's new? :x[/quote]

His statement had to do with Game performance and it was an issue when XP was released. Not because XP was crappy but because computer hardware was behind. Also, realize that games were designed for Windows 98 and XP was very different from 98.

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[quote name='HawkMan' post='592033262' date='Dec 29 2009, 04:00']Neither XP nor Vista was really crappy at launch, despite what the media wanted everyone to think.[/quote]
Vista was almost unusable. I had it. Couldn't even copy files properly. Steve Ballmer's reality distortion field must've caused serious Stockholm syndrome in you.

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[quote name='Jdawg683' post='592033290' date='Dec 28 2009, 12:05']the beta of Vista was crappy. I had Vista just a few months after launch and it was a solid OS. Then again, i wasnt using legacy hardware like the majority of people.[/quote]

MS should not have released such a buggy public beta of Vista. The release was soo much better, but the reputation of Vista was more-or-less tainted in everyone's minds as a crappy experience because of the beta.

I would say part of the success of 7 (at least in terms of good reception) had to do with a good public beta.

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[quote name='still1' post='592033208' date='Dec 28 2009, 18:45']I dont hate vista but its just i like windows 7 better.[/quote]


[quote name='Colin-uk' post='592033226' date='Dec 28 2009, 18:51']the explorer interface changes in vista probly didnt help its popularity either.

the interface in 98/xp was largely similar so not many people had a problem with it because it didnt really change.

with vista there was the removal of the classic start menu and the toolbar with the buttons on it which i think were the major parts of the GUI the people missed.

now that people have gotten used to using the new explorer in vista they dont mind so much when upgrading to win 7 because its the same.


agreed on the points in the OP post too :p[/quote]


Good points and good additions, however, what I didnt state in the article, is that I wrote it from experiencing the hate coming from my clients and customers,, and not tech savy power users / sys admins / people who know how these things happen like most of the members on here :-)

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[quote name='CuCumber' post='592033302' date='Dec 28 2009, 12:07']Vista was almost unusable. I had it. Couldn't even copy files properly. Steve Ballmer's reality distortion field must've caused serious Stockholm syndrome in you.[/quote]

That bug was patched shortly after release. It was available through Windows Update. Do you not install OS patches?

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They released ME... Why not a buggy public beta of Vista?

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[quote name='CuCumber' post='592033302' date='Dec 28 2009, 20:07']Vista was almost unusable. I had it. Couldn't even copy files properly. Steve Ballmer's reality distortion field must've caused serious Stockholm syndrome in you.[/quote]

Wow, you managed to name one known file copu bug that was fixed, and affected a small selection of users.

I used vista partially from beta 2 and fully from RC/RTM. and it was a stable system, and I enevr had file copy issues and I gamed at nearly the same performance as XP or in some cases like BF2 actually slightly better performance.

the issues that where with Vista where from immature Graphics and Audio drivers. which in itself was fairly inexcusable since both Nvidia, Ati and Creative helped to make the new graphics and audio systems.

I like your argument of "You don't agree with me so somethign is wrong with you. because only my opinion is right, and I used vista for like 2 whole days"

[quote name='Shadrack' post='592033316' date='Dec 28 2009, 20:10']That bug was patched shortly after release. It was available through Windows Update. Do you not install OS patches?[/quote]

If you have seen his previous posts in other topics. No I don't think he does.

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That summed it up well. (Y)

Fortunately for me, I only ran into a performance issue with Windows Vista on my old Pentium 4 PC. That soon changed when I installed Windows Vista on my gaming rig back in 2007.

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[quote name='Inertia' post='592028240' date='Dec 27 2009, 15:58']OEM Bundled Software

When OEM’s (Original Equipment Manufacturers) such as HP, Dell, Acer etc sell a pre configured laptop or desktop computer, they often bundle trials of paid software, or revenue generating software. Most commonly Mcafee Antivirus (30 or 90 day trial) Norton Antivirus (30 or 90 day Trial), Google Desktop and toolbar, Ask toolbar and many others. These applications aren’t just sat on the computer waiting to see if you want to use them , they are resident in your precious and sparse RAM as soon as your computer boots, grinding your already poorly performing brand new (in 2006) Vista computer to a halt. the incentive for the OEM’s is that if and when you activate that trial software into a paid subscription (which happens all to often) they get a cut of the sale. also because you are running google desktop and google toolbar, ask toolbar and possibly others, the OEM generates revenue from your searches. It does allow them to sell the computers cheaper, initially saving the end user money, which is attractive, but once again contributing to the end users poor Windows Vista experience.[/quote]


You know. This paragraph cannot be stressed enough.

Crapware does the PC image no good, If this garbage wasn't included with an OEM installation, I'm pretty sure the PC's image would be comparable with that of the Mac's.


Also to the file copy bug, install your updates! What kind of idiot doesn't install updates?

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[quote name='Frylock86' post='592033458' date='Dec 29 2009, 06:01']What kind of idiot doesn't install updates?[/quote]

What kind of idiot accepts expensive buggy products? How fast you got a fix for "Not remembering folder view settings" bug? Thanks to people like you MS will do it again and again.

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[quote name='CuCumber' post='592033484' date='Dec 28 2009, 15:09']What kind of idiot accepts expensive buggy products? How fast you got a fix for "Not remembering folder view settings" bug? Thanks to people like you MS will do it again and again.[/quote]

I'm going to hazard a guess here, you have a mac. So all I can say here is, Snow Leopard. That should sum it up.

Also, programmers are human. There is no possible way for microsoft to test windows on every system out there. Even people with the exact same hardware will notice things sometimes run a bit differently on their respective computers.

So yes it had a file copy bug, but they fixed it shortly after the initial release.

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[quote name='CuCumber' post='592033484' date='Dec 28 2009, 15:09']What kind of idiot accepts expensive buggy products? How fast you got a fix for "Not remembering folder view settings" bug? Thanks to people like you MS will do it again and again.[/quote]

So will Apple, Adobe, and any other company that produces products. What's your point?

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[quote name='CuCumber' post='592033484' date='Dec 28 2009, 20:09']What kind of idiot accepts expensive buggy products? How fast you got a fix for "Not remembering folder view settings" bug? Thanks to people like you MS will do it again and again.[/quote]
That bug was fixed before Vista's official release therefore the only people it effected were those that got it free via a technet or msdn account or official beta testers they gave it to therefore your question is irrelevant.

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[quote name='CuCumber' post='592033484' date='Dec 28 2009, 21:09']What kind of idiot accepts expensive buggy products? How fast you got a fix for "Not remembering folder view settings" bug? Thanks to people like you MS will do it again and again.[/quote]

Folder view settings wasn't actually a bug.

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