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I follow you but they're just trying to advance things, it mimics the behavior of the Superbar with regards to jumplists. If you hold left click and wait, or hold left click and slide downward you'll see the same behavior as left+wait and left+slide up on the taskbar. Right click of course also brings up the jumplists and now the back and forward histories. It's new so perhaps a bit jarring/unexpected at first thought, but it's consistant with the new advancements to the way Windows behaves.

Ya, I'll give you that one, it does match with the superbar more in win7 so I get the thinking behind it. On the other hand it's still a pain how they've hidden things that are there but there's no UI for them for the most part.

The option to restart your last session is infact there. Its kinda odd how they implimented it because it kinda hides the feature. Anywho, onto the info you are looking for:

Click: the Tools icon

Click: Internet Options

Change home page preference to "about:tabs"

Next time you open IE, you'll see all the tabs you had open in your last session.

Below the tabs are two options: Reopen Closed Tabs and Reopen Last Session

Like this, I don't get why they'd hide this like they have. Why not just leave it as it is in the tools menu in IE8? It eally looks like this new UI in beta 1 is way off from being done IMO. I like my home page to be what it is, I don't want to change it.

I've downloaded some InPrivate filter lists, imported my IE8 adblocking stylesheet, and have implemented per-site flash-blocking. The internet is much less annoying now.

I've added a new issue on the Connect website that I think people may like (especially for dealing with annoying flash ads).

https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/details/602104/addon-approval-needs-option-to-remember-choices

I see no dl speed...

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"Mostly all download manager integrated in browsers show the downloading speed of a file but the case is not same with the download manager in Internet Explorer 9 Beta. IE9 download manager shows the percentage of download completed and time remaining but misses the download speed option, which most users may prefer to see.

If you want to see the file downloading speed in IE9, then just place your mouse cursor over the download completion percentage. This will show you the actual speed of download and let you examine if the speed is coming as per your Internet connection plan or if you're downloading file from the best mirror.

IE9 developers must add the option to show speed like other visible parameters.

Hope you found this tip useful. "

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From another site...

A search Bar beside the adress bar (not combined with the address bar)

Tabs below the address bar not sharing he same space as the address bar :(

The stats bar at the bottom only pops up when the browers is loading a pag and disapiress after fully loaded (dose not stay on all the time) I finaly got it to sow upand stay showing. must be a bug right now.

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I wonder why people would want two separate bars for url and search instead of an unified one. It saves space, is not confusing and overall is a great design choice for simplifying.

I wonder why people would want two separate bars for url and search instead of an unified one. It saves space, is not confusing and overall is a great design choice for simplifying.

I found it more confusing.. I was like WTF were my google search bar and then I say the search icon beside the drop down arrow in the address bar as said..wel lthats jsut stupied...

It isn't more confusing. It is less familiar. It seems silly to not merge them, considering that people really only ever use one at any given time.

nope - I had to downlaod the Google Bar add-on to fix this issue. ever tiem I load IE9 first thing I look for is the google sarch bar that shoudl be right beside the address bar.. not tabs...

nope - I had to downlaod the Google Bar add-on to fix this issue. ever tiem I load IE9 first thing I look for is the google sarch bar that shoudl be right beside the address bar.. not tabs...

"Should" be? Don't you mean it has just been the norm for a while? Since when has there ever been a legitimate "should be" in software development? Paradigms change all the time. If you're gonna run around with a "should be" over your shoulder, find a lawn and yell at teenagers from it.

Why add the google toolbar when you can search google from the address bar =/

cuz they removied the search bar that was orginal beside the address bar. and yes I know the address bar and search are all in the work space jsut jsut cunfusing and ever time I looked for the sarch bar it was missing...

and I perosnly like have the 2 Bars sepret from each other.

its liek having the address bar in the task bar... yes I know I can ether tpye www.google.com to bring up the webpage or type a search like "howto Set" and it wil bring up a search result on howto set.. the only issue with this is I see address labe beside the bar and I never think to search but instead input a URL instead.. same with with IE adress bar.. I alwazs think URL and bar for search.

cuz they removied the search bar that was orginal beside the address bar. and yes I know the address bar and search are all in the work space jsut jsut cunfusing and ever time I looked for the sarch bar it was missing...

and I perosnly like have the 2 Bars sepret from each other.

its liek having the address bar in the task bar... yes I know I can ether tpye www.google.com to bring up the webpage or type a search like "howto Set" and it wil bring up a search result on howto set.. the only issue with this is I see address labe beside the bar and I never think to search but instead input a URL instead.. same with with IE adress bar.. I alwazs think URL and bar for search.

FWIW, you seem to have developed some very unusual browsing habits. To have an address/search field and Favorites/Links directly on your taskbar, an address bar in the browser itself, along with a Favorites bar, and a Favorites drop-down on your tool bar, as well as a separate search bar? I think you should maybe try to retrain yourself when it comes to how you browse the web, because you're particular enough that eventually ALL browsers will fail to live up to how you browse.

The web isn't the same web it was 10 years ago, so it doesn't make sense to browse it with a UI configuration you might have seen 10 years ago. Craploads of toolbar functions is very Netscape 1990s. I don't see how you've managed to adapt to a change as drastic as Windows 7's superbar, but integrating search into an address bar is just OH GOD TOO MUCH.

Not to make fun or anything. But if you got off the technology train 10 years ago, don't get upset when you realize just how far away it's gotten.

I just dont assocate Address with Search.

as for fav there are jsut the quick fav that IE8 had jsut the few sits I visit on a daily bases out of 686 Booked sites that are still up and being updated on a weekly bases.

as for the command window that will disapire once I fined were they moved ever thing....

The Fav bar folder is the bar u see that hold the 7 sites that I visit all the time. It was a IE7/8 feature that was added..saved me from looking thur my long list of active sits I have booked marked.

I also have the address bar in the taskbar as well as my long list of favs and links (witch is my fav bar thats used in IE 7/8/9)

This saves me from having to click on the IE button before I can start browsing the net.

witch is odd cuz I still pin a Chrome and IE Icon to the taskbar as well...

I just happen to like to be able to do that 1 thing, more then 1 way of doing it.

Hell I even have Favs on my startmenu as well

so once again even though the address bar has search built into it I still like having my search bar.

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MadDoggyca I'd also recommend you start using the Superbar's IE icon jumplist to have your pinned favorites, that way you can easily get to your most go-to sites and then the most frequently used show up beneath it as well. IE9's newtab page also comes in handy as a homepage this way. I've never liked having a favorites bar, takes up too much real estate in my opinion, but have greatly enjoyed the advancement of the jumplist to make up for this in a different way.

MadDoggyca I'd also recommend you start using the Superbar's IE icon jumplist to have your pinned favorites, that way you can easily get to your most go-to sites and then the most frequently used show up beneath it as well. IE9's newtab page also comes in handy as a homepage this way. I've never liked having a favorites bar, takes up too much real estate in my opinion, but have greatly enjoyed the advancement of the jumplist to make up for this in a different way.

ha ha I feel such a tard.. I been useintg Win 7 Beta 1 as my main OS, and once did I never think of jumplist... its like a feature I know thats there but if I never acutally see it then I never use it...I guess that gose with 3d Flip and Aero Shake.

there just there with out any sence or feel that there auctally there.

Im hoping Sp1 dose not brake my system. I when from Vista>Win7 B1>Win7 B2>Win7 RTM with out formating..

When I try and sendfeedback it says I don't have Windows Live Sign-In, so directs me to a page to download it. When I download it on that page though it tells me I already have it.

Any ideas? Thanks again.

There's a known issue with the Windows Live Essentials Beta. See below :

Thank you for installing the IE9 Beta and helping us to make it better through your feedback!

We have identified an issue with the Send Feedback tool for users of the IE9 Beta on 64-bit versions of Windows 7, Vista, and Server 2008 who have also installed the Windows Live Essentials Beta. Enhancements made to the Windows Live Essential Beta prevent the Feedback tool from running ? you will receive a message entitled ?Please install the Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant? with a link to ?Get the Windows Live ID Sign-In Assistant?. When you try to download and install from the link, it will say you already have a more recent version installed. This issue has been reported by users in Connect, and we will update those bugs as we investigate the issue.

To provide the IE team with your feedback, go directly to the IE Feedback Program on Microsoft Connect (connect.microsoft.com/ie). This is the same location where all entries from the Feedback Tool are logged. You can use it to view, edit, and comment on bugs, and to see the results of our investigation. You need to register on Connect to use the Send Feedback tool and the IE Feedback Program. Registering is a quick and easy process described here: connect.microsoft.com/.../content.aspx. Once registered, you can go directly to the Feedback page (connect.microsoft.com/.../feedback), search for your issue, and submit new feedback if it is not found. The Feedback page has additional information on the process.

Your feedback is very important to us and much appreciated. Thank you for taking the time to let us know about your experiences with the IE9 Beta.

Justin Saint Clair

Program Manager, Internet Explorer

For all those wondering why some of us want a seperate search bar and not one merged with the address bar, from several reasons the following are my most important ones:

1. I usually type something in the search bar, and then simply select the search provider from the drop down list. At times, I then wish to search the same thing using a different search provider, something which in IE 8 I can do simply by selecting the other search provider from the drop down list. But in IE 9, I have to type the search words again.

The following reasons given by someone else also are very valid issues for me:

1) I want to do a google search for Neowin. I go to the address bar and type Neowin. The address bar unhelpfully fills in neowin.net because it's on both my history and bookmarks. So instead of just hitting enter as I used to do I now have to delete the extra stuff first. Similarly if I search for Face, it unhelpfully auto completes that to Facebook.com etc. etc.

2) I want to search articles on Neowin, so I type in neowin. After deleting the supurflous stuff again I hit enter, and I'm at neowin's home page, but I don't want to go to neowin's website I just wanted to find articles on neowin.

Bottom line, by comibining/merging the search bar with the address bar, has severely reduced the utility and usability of atleast the search bar, if not the address bar also. I any case why can't Microsoft make it so that one can select if they want a seperate search bar or a combined/merged address-search bar.

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