Apple is good about slanting facts when the truth hurts

Oh Apple, you are really good at creating hype and even building products. We love competition in the field and because of it, you force the marketplace to be innovative and push boundaries but at the same time, you love making yourself look like the champion in all things but sometimes, the truth hurts. 

Lets first take a look at Apple's classic (because they do it all the time) user adoption rate; they proudly proclaimed that consumers are adopting OS X Lion far faster than that of Windows 7. It's cute, but when your marketshare pales in comparison, it is an easy statistic to slant to provide a screwed view of what is really happening.

If you take a look at the chart below, you can see the sales of the two platforms over a 9 month period. Now, we did do some interpolation as each month of sales data was not provided but Apple did supply months 1, 3 and 9 and Microsoft provided months 5, 7, 8 and 9; these are the months since release date and do not align to the calendar year.

Over the same time scale, Microsoft, as it should be no surprise, dominates Apple in sales. Now the point Apple is making is that their consumers adopt a new OS faster, and good for them, as Apple has failed to crack the corporate environment. It's easy for Apple to win this statistic as they have far fewer users in the field and when each one updates, it makes a bigger dent than if one Microsoft consumer upgrades.

 

If you look at the chart above, it is another Apple specialty as it says "Very Satisfied Customers". Now their source is obvious (sarcasm) but they put Apple way at the top and all the others down in the Mariana trench. First off, sample size, how many are they polling, what's the bigger picture here? Well if we search the web, we get a much clearer picture about satisfaction rate for the mobile OS segment.

PCmag and Splatf.com ran a poll, which you can see above, and it paints a drastically different picture and one could argue that they are independent of any corporate influence. As you can see, Apple is still well near the top, but so is Windows Phone; this is far different that what Apple was painting at its conference today. 

Here is another great statistic that skews the view. What you see above is Apple saying their browser (which is in beta) is the fastest on the market. While we do not doubt that, why are they comparing their beta product to older production platforms? Why not compare it to IE10 as that product is in beta too, as that would only seem fair. 

The point is that Apple is great at making pretty charts and lying with statistics. We know that they are selling millions of products, have a very loyal fanbase and yet, they still feel that they need to prop themselves up even more even though it is not necessary. 

Image Credit: Engadget |  PCmag | The Verge | Splatf.com

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It doesn't matter. You can tell Apple-heads anything you want, and they will lap it up like their Starbuck's lattes that they think are actually good.

We know that they are selling millions of products, have a very loyal fanbase and yet, they still feel that they need to prop themselves up even more even though it is not necessary.

I would politely & humbly disagree about the necessity part... Many, many top US brands feel, have found that they need to continually reinforce their [alleged] superiority amongst their loyal customers, lest those customers begin to have the slightest doubts, & think about trying the competition. This is especially important when you charge [sometimes much] more than some of your competition -- you want to ensure your customers that there are very good reasons they paid so much, especially when those reasons aren't readily apparent in use.

And, Brad, it works... No offense to anyone even hinted, what do the stats matter anyway? The norm is exclusivity & high price pumps egos -- not sharing tastes with the lowly masses. The top sports & luxury cars are limited production. Same with top designer clothing. Same with watches. Same with the very biggest HDTVs. Same with restaurants -- which dates brag about being taken to dinner at Mickie D's? Apple manages to get their customers feeling good about both a bit of exclusivity & numbers allegedly reflecting mass appeal.

of course their good about lying i'm just suprised this was allowed to be posted . the best one i like is that apples pc sales are crushing pc sales they are up 150 percent seeing that they hold a small piece of the total sales of course if they sold 1000 pcs last year and this year they sell 2500 naturally they would say 150 percent ((sarcasm))

I believe that Windows has 92.53% of market share compared to OSX having 5.41%.
This roughly equates to 1.4 billion copies of Windows compared to 81 million OSX.

40% of OSX updated which is approx 32 million Macs
12% of Windows updated which is approx 168 million PCs (still twice as many Macs in total)

So to prove the User Adoption slide wrong you used a sales graph? Don't forget that 40% of OSX users is a lot less than for Windows. You're grasping at straws here

Rudy said,
So to prove the User Adoption slide wrong you used a sales graph? Don't forget that 40% of OSX users is a lot less than for Windows. You're grasping at straws here

It doesn't prove it wrong. It's correct, I'm sure. It just explains that Apple boasting about having a higher user adoption rate is silly. They are the ones grasping at straws.

Their higher user adoption rate is actually a result of Apple's failure to compete in the corporate world. Not something to really brag about.

rfirth said,

It doesn't prove it wrong. It's correct, I'm sure. It just explains that Apple boasting about having a higher user adoption rate is silly. They are the ones grasping at straws.

Their higher user adoption rate is actually a result of Apple's failure to compete in the corporate world. Not something to really brag about.

Oh please. Imagine if it was your company. You'd be happy too to know your customer base is keeping up to date. In fact, I find it amazing that this is what everyone is choosing to bitch about. I thought we were tech guys/gals. Nerds even. Shouldn't seeing more people, regardless of what software they own, stay up to date make us happy?

rfirth said,

It doesn't prove it wrong. It's correct, I'm sure. It just explains that Apple boasting about having a higher user adoption rate is silly. They are the ones grasping at straws.

Their higher user adoption rate is actually a result of Apple's failure to compete in the corporate world. Not something to really brag about.

Actually, adoption rate matters, and should not be confused with market share. Developers care about adoption rates. We look at these things when deciding what OS version to target when building applications.

OP seems to have gotten his panties in a twist over... not much.

Tha Bloo Monkee said,
The "evidence" used to counter Apple's market share claims is just as cherry picked as Apple's...

exactly. You can do the right thing and point out how biased apple is (although it's their own keynote, i mean, you can't expect much more from that),.. but instead all we've got is a response biased towards windows.

When I see polls, be they Apple, MS, or any politician, until I see who they talked to, the sample rate & the QUESTION ASKED, I disregard them all.
If there were a question that said something to the extent...
If you were given a choice between software A, knowing that purchasing software A, you would be responsible for the death of children in China, or Software B, which would not, which would you pick? Well, you know how it would come down. "More people prefer software B over software A by 3 to 1 margin". Not knowing how they sample, or questions asked, polls are WORTHLESS.

I came here expecting to see something about hardware or performance. Instead, it's largely some tripe about metrics that only corporations and ranking groups care about, and written in such a manner that is clearly meant to inflame anti-Apple sentiment.

Brad, I appreciate that you took time to put together this article and present it properly, but I really wish that a technology news site wouldn't include pieces like this.

Ledgem said,
I came here expecting to see something about hardware or performance. Instead, it's largely some tripe about metrics that only corporations and ranking groups care about, and written in such a manner that is clearly meant to inflame anti-Apple sentiment.

Brad, I appreciate that you took time to put together this article and present it properly, but I really wish that a technology news site wouldn't include pieces like this.

There are plenty of sites that worship at the altar of Apple, but you are upset a site named neoWIN is not taking the day to do the same?

Really grasping straws with these...
I still don't see anything wrong with what Apple said. It's simply marketing at it's finest. They aren't the only ones that do it...

Oh, I can bet you that the JavaScript performance test was done on a specific type of Benchmarks in which other browsers will lose. I'd rather see which browser is more CSS, HTML and JavaScript compliant than which is faster on decoding non-real "stuff".

They haven't lied, they have showed it differently, which means in % instead of absolute values. You guys at Neowin have already written the SAME article with the SAME message in the last Keynote.

That goes without speaking about the sensational article title…

Neowin's quality is drastically degrading over time.

Edited by PyX, Jun 11 2012, 11:24pm :

PyX said,
They haven't lied, they have showed it differently, which means in % instead of absolute values. You guys at Neowin have already written the SAME article with the SAME message in the last Keynote.

That goes without speaking about the sensational article title…

Neowin's quality is drastically degrading over time.


sounds like politics in the US to me. I am not lying. Just not saying the entire truth. You may call it "not lying", however it is still dishonest.

PyX said,
They haven't lied, they have showed it differently, which means in % instead of absolute values. You guys at Neowin have already written the SAME article with the SAME message in the last Keynote.

That goes without speaking about the sensational article title…

Neowin's quality is drastically degrading over time.

Rage blinds your logic. Chill, throw aside the Apple and Microsoft terms and see them as merely companies A and B. Then you'll see why you're doing it wrong.

iwod said,

They haven't degraded. I still enjoy it on M$ side. It is just that they are an M$ site and every thing about Apple they will have something to hate.

Man you still use vintage words, You must be soo cooool!

WinA said,
Good article but Windows 8 won't be successful as Windows 7 was!

Well, that was pretty much assumed anyway, no matter how good windows 8 was.

I thought that about the graph adoption rate when I first saw it in the Keynote. Well done Apple, you drank 40% of a keg in 4 months, meanwhile in those 4 months Microsoft drank 10% of an Olympic sized swimming pool.

Look it all comes down to this: There are people who just want to use Apple products and are happy. And then there are people who need statistics like these to justify their purchases.

When it all comes down to it Apple is just a mastermind of marketing. Nobody can top that, nor do they want to sometimes due to questionable stuff like this.

HA user adoption rate! MS just released figures saying they have sold 350 million W7 licenses. That's not Vista, XP, 98se, or anything else. Apple releases figures saying they have 66 million macs total and 26 million copies of Lion(may be off by 4-5 million). Numbers can indeed lie! Hmmmm!!

pwgarner said,
HA user adoption rate! MS just released figures saying they have sold 350 million W7 licenses. That's not Vista, XP, 98se, or anything else. Apple releases figures saying they have 66 million macs total and 26 million copies of Lion(may be off by 4-5 million). Numbers can indeed lie! Hmmmm!!

They didn't really lie, they just put it in percent out of the total user base. I'm not defending them, I find this very misleading too.

Its interesting you say that apple don't take the numbers into account for the adoption rate chart, but you fail to take the numbers into account as well for the satisfaction chart. Wouldn't the same logic apply there as well (ie WP had a miniscule user base compared to apple or Android)?

The final chart, while certainly skewed in the message it is trying to get across, is still technically correct.

While all this is clearly isn't upright, every company does this in one way or another. Weren't the WP competitions rigged heavily to favour the platform (such as by creating predefined shortcuts)?

"We know that they are selling millions of products, have a very loyal fanbase and yet, they still feel that they need to prop themselves up even more even though it is not necessary. "
Spoken in the true spirit of Microsoft there. Why try harder when we are already on top?

recursive said,
Its interesting you say that apple don't take the numbers into account for the adoption rate chart, but you fail to take the numbers into account as well for the satisfaction chart. Wouldn't the same logic apply there as well (ie WP had a miniscule user base compared to apple or Android)?

The problem with the satisfaction chart is that it's all around wrong. Windows Phone rates very highly in consumer satisfaction. It looks like they used Windows Mobile satisfaction rates instead of Windows Phone. Maybe they averaged the two.

recursive said,
"We know that they are selling millions of products, have a very loyal fanbase and yet, they still feel that they need to prop themselves up even more even though it is not necessary. "
Spoken in the true spirit of Microsoft there. Why try harder when we are already on top?
Spoken in the true spirit of the Apple fanboi. Why not lie more when our previous lies were already big enough?

Tim Dawg said,
Spoken in the true spirit of the Apple fanboi. Why not lie more when our previous lies were already big enough?

Hit a nerve there, a dawg?

UVSoaked said,
I like how they didn't compare with Opera, which usually comes up as #1 (or close to) in JavaScript speed tests.

Why compare it with a browser that barely anyone uses anyway?

Deliciously_Random said,

Why compare it with a browser that barely anyone uses anyway?


Because of the keyword "fastest" and also Opera has passed 200 million users. Not too shabby.

Deliciously_Random said,

Why compare it with a browser that barely anyone uses anyway?


you you should not bring that point when defending safari :-D

Deliciously_Random said,

Why compare it with a browser that barely anyone uses anyway?


What about Internet Explorer? Breaking all other browsers' javascript speed since version 9.

UVSoaked said,
I like how they didn't compare with Opera, which usually comes up as #1 (or close to) in JavaScript speed tests.

Opera is the red headed step child often times. They get excluded from many things. This really shouldn't come as a surprise.

The super fun thing, as an ex-microsoft person, is that once you get into OSX vs Windows it's all bad for Windows. Going back to using Win7 or the terrible Win8 just reinforces how mediocre the MS products are.

velkymx said,
The super fun thing, as an ex-microsoft person, is that once you get into OSX vs Windows it's all bad for Windows. Going back to using Win7 or the terrible Win8 just reinforces how mediocre the MS products are.

Till the dress comes off... they both have the same problem, they are computers.

velkymx said,
The super fun thing, as an ex-microsoft person, is that once you get into OSX vs Windows it's all bad for Windows. Going back to using Win7 or the terrible Win8 just reinforces how mediocre the MS products are.

A few years back I knocked over a drink into my Windows computer, frying it. As an experiment I decided to spend three months using only a Mac Mini and see what I liked. Half way through the experiment, the Mini was unplugged, and a brand new, custom built computer happily took the Mini's place. To me, Mac is a power user's mess. Some common commands can only be done with a keyboard. Some common commands can only be done with a mouse. Half thought out, unproductive, incomplete, bass-ackward development environment (XCode) with windows popping up at random times. Common keystrokes that make little sense and lead to errors. Freezing Apple apps that cause the entire system to freeze because the menu bar cannot be clicked. And I could go on and on about how everything about OSX is mediocre.

Oh, and I am enjoying using Win8 on my tablet, have been using it exclusively since day one of consumer preview.

velkymx said,
The super fun thing, as an ex-microsoft person, is that once you get into OSX vs Windows it's all bad for Windows. Going back to using Win7 or the terrible Win8 just reinforces how mediocre the MS products are.

Ya, that was common back in 1999 and 2000 when people were moving to OS X and PCs still were shipping with Windows98 and WinME.

Too bad Apple won't have an opportunity like that again now that NT is at the core of all versions of Windows.

rippleman said,
Every company does this. Anyone who didn't already know this must be a teen. To all the iCry crowd, keep crying.

Agreed.

People are getting butthurt for a company showing the highlights of where they stand. Should Apple not point out their adoption rate for their OS at all? I mean, sure, the markets don't compare, it doesn't take a genius to know Windows will outsell well... just about anything. But there are some perks to their statistics, and I see nothing wrong with highlighting those out.

You'd have to be a complete jackass to believe any company would come out pessimistic about what they've accomplished, when the world is gathering to see what they have to say.

SharpGreen said,

Wow that didn't take long. Not even half an hour. lol

It doesn't take long, when nearly every consumer satisfaction report that anyone has done for years now, places Apple at the top in nearly every area in which they compete, sometimes by a wide margin.

Did the "Neowin journalist" pick the odd one out that just happens to support his obvious Apple-envy? Sure looks like it.

LOL @ the PC Mag (rag) poll.

Deliciously_Random said,

...

That's because you're completely ignoring Windows Phone. We want customer satisfaction results of iOS vs Windows Phone.

The things you posted list Noka... that's Symbian + Windows Phone. HTC? Android + Windows Phone. Samsung? Android + Windows Phone.

When you remove all other factors from the equations, as Apple does in their chart (They list by OS, not by vender), then Windows Phone ranks very very highly in consumer satisfaction.

Deliciously_Random said,
There's no lie here.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/0...s-phone-satisfaction-index/

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/...-for-customer-satisfaction/

The only problem here is the abject JEALOUSY of Apple that pervades a Windows fansite.

Both of those articles that you reference shows Apple is in the lead when comparing the iPhone to Nokia, RIM, Samsung, Moto, etc. Apple's chart, they are comparing Apple to Microsoft, RIM, and Android. Microsoft does not make hardware, they make software. And as the chart Neowin provided shows, Microsoft and Apple are equal in satisfaction.

You are trying to disprove software satisfaction by using hardware satisfaction numbers. And that is the point of this article, Apple throws out information with no references to where they got the data, and then twists the information to make themselves look better.

nohone said,

Both of those articles that you reference shows Apple is in the lead when comparing the iPhone to Nokia, RIM, Samsung, Moto, etc. Apple's chart, they are comparing Apple to Microsoft, RIM, and Android. Microsoft does not make hardware, they make software. And as the chart Neowin provided shows, Microsoft and Apple are equal in satisfaction.

You are trying to disprove software satisfaction by using hardware satisfaction numbers. And that is the point of this article, Apple throws out information with no references to where they got the data, and then twists the information to make themselves look better.

You can't divorce iOS from its hardware. You can't divorce the hardware from the OS that makes it work. The OS is what happens when you turn the device on.

Deliciously_Random said,

You can't divorce iOS from its hardware. You can't divorce the hardware from the OS that makes it work. The OS is what happens when you turn the device on.

Correct, iOS and the iPhone are tied together. But in the same way, you cannot argue that iOS/iPhone are doing better in customer satisfaction by comparing software to hardware.

Even Siri said that Nokia had better satisfaction rates, until Apple had to make changes to the server software to give different results.

rfirth said,

Thats because you're completely ignoring Windows Phone. We want customer satisfaction results of iOS vs Windows Phone.

It would be a little hard to compare with windows phone seeing as it has what, a less than 2% market share? only people that use them are microsoft die hards

Deliciously_Random said,

It doesn't take long, when nearly every consumer satisfaction report that anyone has done for years now, places Apple at the top in nearly every area in which they compete, sometimes by a wide margin.

Did the "Neowin journalist" pick the odd one out that just happens to support his obvious Apple-envy? Sure looks like it.

LOL @ the PC Mag (rag) poll.

I mean it didn't take long for someone who's obvious suffering from the ill effects of the RDF to come out and basically say it's impossible for anything to be better than the all mighty Apple.

I'm just curious when Windows Mobile stopped fitting under the Windows brand. Sure, it might seem cheap to include it, but it's still Windows, still exists, and people are still using it apparently.

Before someone jumps on me though, let me just say I'm actually a fan of Windows Phone. I just don't get butthurt when someone puts up a graph.

Deliciously_Random said,

It doesn't take long, when nearly every consumer satisfaction report that anyone has done for years now, places Apple at the top in nearly every area in which they compete, sometimes by a wide margin.

Did the "Neowin journalist" pick the odd one out that just happens to support his obvious Apple-envy? Sure looks like it.

LOL @ the PC Mag (rag) poll.

If you visit EVERY major carrier or major box store that has online rating systems, that are LOCKED to people that own the product, you will find WP7 is equal to or beating the iPhone.

If you do random polls, without validating if people even use the product, you are right, Apple scores better, but it also means Apple fans are liars and say they own WP7 or Android and hate it.

Go to ATT or Verizon or BestBuy... Find any WP7, even the ones that have been out since 2010, you will find WP7 satisfaction and reviews AMAZINGLY high.

This is not rocket science, although I can do that too. However, I charge for hyberbolic trajectory computations.

Sonne said,

It would be a little hard to compare with windows phone seeing as it has what, a less than 2% market share? only people that use them are microsoft die hards

Um, not so much.

There are a lot of 'first time' smartphone users that have steered towards WP7, especially at cellular stores that have to provide direct support to customers.

They don't want someone's aunt/mom/grandma calling them about their phone not working and having to explain why they are getting a FC in the camera App.

(This is so sad, but I truly do have several friends that own and work in retail locations that have done what I describe exactly. And guess what, it works out well for them, and they also get good 'satisfaction' reviews for WP7 from these customers.)

Sonne said,

It would be a little hard to compare with windows phone seeing as it has what, a less than 2% market share? only people that use them are microsoft die hards

That's hardly true. A lot of people are buying Windows Phones now with the Nokia line out there in particular that are not Microsoft fanboys... The Microsoft crowd is much less diehard than the Apple crowd by a long shot...

Sonne said,

It would be a little hard to compare with windows phone seeing as it has what, a less than 2% market share? only people that use them are microsoft die hards

Lets apply that logic to this: You can't compare Windows to OS X as OS X has less than 10% market share. So you're saying that the Mac OS for the desktop is irrelevant. Got it.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,

So I should trust macrumours instead of independent sites? lol please go see a doctor.

MacRumors simply REPORTS on those independent surveys, genius. They just parrot the news.

If I need a doctor, you need a proctologist, so he can get your head out of your rear.

Open Minded said,

Lets apply that logic to this: You can't compare Windows to OS X as OS X has less than 10% market share. So you're saying that the Mac OS for the desktop is irrelevant. Got it.

Except the situation with Macs is a totally different dynamic. Apple owns the top-end of the PC market, has outpaced the rest of the PC industry in growth several years running, commands the highest consumer satisfaction in PCs, and is the most profitable PC maker in the industry. No OEMs, all under one roof.

Further, the cost of entry into Apple's computer lineup is at minimum, $1000, not counting the Mini. Price necessarily limits Apple to the top-tier of the retail pyramid. No $400 Dell junkers served here.

Deliciously_Random said,

Except the situation with Macs is a totally different dynamic. Apple owns the top-end of the PC market, has outpaced the rest of the PC industry in growth several years running, commands the highest consumer satisfaction in PCs, and is the most profitable PC maker in the industry. No OEMs, all under one roof.

What the f*ck did I just read? Top-end market? Are you serious? You got some seriousl mental issues my friend.

myxomatosis said,
They're all lying...

Microsoft tells us "You want the Windows 8 Start Screen" every fuc**** week...

Microsoft hasn't said that, it is people like myself that have said that...


That's the Neowin I remember. We do need to remember that this is sports more than anything, and it is fine to hate the other team. Particularly that team. I actually thought that they would try to come out with a reasonably priced MacBook and a new UI for the phone. Big sigh of relief here, time to play leapfrog big time this fall.

i've been trying to explain this to my fanboi friends for years.
You did forget the Apple commercials that were on years ago...Mac vs PC. They were also lies, but it's their marketing strategy.

Although I agree with everything you said, and I do dislike Apple. I must say that all of the browser companies use the same stats when comparing their beta versions against existing production versions. It's just stupid.

Ugh...don't get me started. I HATED those Mac vs PC commercials. The biggest bunch of lies and inflammatory over exaggerated BS ever put out. I'm so glad those are gone.

Most if not all companies do this, but Apple seem to be the king of the skew and this is one reason I don't buy anything Apple... just my opinion.

andrewbares said,
Every company does this lol. Apple is nothing special, they're not the king of this.

Every company does do this at various levels. However, many would argue that Apple is the King of 'Favorable Information' and Marketing.

(Apple has to have their ads pulled from various countries TV & Papers on almost a yearly basis due to laws about being factual.)

There is also the psychological aspect of Apple's marketing that goes beyond what Bernays and traditional consumer 'want' marketing. There is a line that most marketing agencies and/or clients do not allow to be crossed. Apple is one of the few non-political entities that doesn't seem to have a problem crossing this line, even when it moves into manipulation of memory and thinking.

Go hit up YouTube and find a clever fellow by the name Derren Brown. He is an expert in the mentalist aspect of psychology and how easily people are manipulated. If you understand this area of science, he is rather interesting in how he uses this knowledge for an engaging performance.

There are aspects that he demonstrates that Apple actively uses in their demonstrations, speeches, and marketing and unlike Derren Brown, Apple does not deprogram people subjected to their manipulations, which is effectively brainwashing.

Most people don't 'really' know why they like Apple or 'need' an iPad, but they do. This is where Apple crosses a line that you hardly see other companies systematically and continually use.

Microsoft is almost the anti-Apple when it comes to manipulation, as Gates didn't and still reigns in subversive marketing. Microsoft's marketing also was internal most of the time, and rather horrible. Not only was it not manipulation, but often the sales team and the marketing team had very little 'understanding' of the products they were selling.

Look at one feature in Vista, it had something called 'Previous versions', which was a better version of Apple's Time Machine, and was around 8 months before Apple did a massive marketing and 'media manipulation' touting their Time Machine.

If the sales or marketing team at Microsoft actually knew what they were doing, they would have hit back at Apple with ads showing this feature.

Instead, the technology was used so little and not known about, in Windows 8 it has been rolled into the 'new' (cough) file history App so it can be 'marketed' to compete with Time Machine. Which is really kind of sad.

Nicely written article! Good work, Brad. I too thought that the particular Windows 7 vs OS X Lion statistic was a bit of a stretch. And when you consider the enormous install base Windows has vs OS X it is plain to see that Microsoft is dominating when it comes to sales.

and the fact that corporations, who make up a large majority of the install base will not upgrade for several years after the OS launches, it becomes even more clear.

andrewbares said,

Give me one company that does NOT show statistics that promote their own company.

Yeah, but usually they pick actual statistics... lol Picking and choosing and fabricating are two very different things...

andrewbares said,

Give me one company that does NOT show statistics that promote their own company.

Take for example MS' statistics about IE9... Only in Windows 7 - Only in US - Only in Colorado - Only in one specific neighborhood of Colorado - Οnly on Weekdays, not Weekends... IE 9 is first!

PC EliTiST said,

Take for example MS' statistics about IE9... Only in Windows 7 - Only in US - Only in Colorado - Only in one specific neighborhood of Colorado - Οnly on Weekdays, not Weekends... IE 9 is first!

Source? Not that I think there's an actual source matching your ridiculous comment but provide a source where they've presented such skewed stats that compare to what Apple has presented here?

I'm not saying MS is incapable of skewing stats but I don't recall ever seeing them skew as bad as what the above article illustrates in regards to Apple.

Enron said,
But.. but.. Apple!

"But it's iPad!" "But what does it do?" "It's iPad!" "It just looks like a big iPod Touch to me!" "It's different! It's iPad!" "And?..." "iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0NE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

togermano said,
I have measured a few of my friends penises and the ones that like apple more usually have the smaller ones

You're holding them wrong.
</stevejobs>

togermano said,
I have measured a few of my friends penises and the ones that like apple more usually have the smaller ones

Maybe you should stop fondling your friends' penises.

Shadrack said,

Maybe you should stop fondling your friends' penises.

Yes if you fondle them they'll get bigger, making the test unfair.

togermano said,
I have measured a few of my friends penises and the ones that like apple more usually have the smaller ones

Fabulous?

togermano said,
I have measured a few of my friends penises and the ones that like apple more usually have the smaller ones

Get rid of the magnifying glasses.
Then you'll see what it really looks like.

togermano said,
I have measured a few of my friends penises and the ones that like apple more usually have the smaller ones

That awkward moment when your measuring your friends penis sizes to see if they are relative in length to the operating systems they use and suddenly it goes off in your hand and you go to sneeze and it sprays everywhere and the only thing left to clean it up are Windows branded towels then you learn that Microsoft is great at getting you out of sticky situations.... ah yeah we have ALL been there.....

McKay said,

Yes if you fondle them they'll get bigger, making the test unfair.

Actually the only fair way to measure them is post-fondle, since the coefficient of expansion varies wildly.

Tom said,
Incoming raged Apple fanboys... 3, 2, 1...

Tom's still pretending he's the shining beacon of neutralness I see.

virtorio said,
Ironically it seems to be overflowing with Windows fanboys.

Read all the comments, I don't see any. There are usually a fair number of hardcore Android defenders though.

One nice thing about Windows is its not synonymous with having an attitude problem.

Martin5000 said,

Read all the comments, I don't see any. There are usually a fair number of hardcore Android defenders though.

One nice thing about Windows is its not synonymous with having an attitude problem.

+1. I always like the people that claim Windows fanboys are giving them a hard time when I never see it...

Tom said,
Incoming raged Apple fanboys... 3, 2, 1...

I think i become an apple fanboy those last years... but i still enjoy those things. Makes me laugh so much, because of the comments