Apple may release 4K iMac, 12in Macbook Air with Retina Display in October

There is no doubt that Apple has been giving more love to Mac OS X since the 2014 World Wide Developers Conference. The company has been making many improvements to their desktop OS such as an overhauled interface, as well as a new version of iTunes, all gearing up for the launch of Mac OS X 10.10 "Yosemite" this fall. If a report from 9to5Mac is true, this fall could be a big season for Mac users.

The report claims that the newest iteration of the Mac OS X desktop may be released around the end of October, alongside some refreshes to the Mac family. Following some past findings, 9to5Mac believes that Apple could release either a new iMac with a 4K screen, or a standalone 4K monitor, but their sources aren't certain. It is speculated that the 4K model could be advertised as having a Retina Display, because the technology for true pixel-doubling is not yet ready for larger screens.

Despite similar rumors that say otherwise, they claim that there may also be a redesigned 12 inch MacBook Air with a Retina Display released in October. However, it will not replace the other 11 and 13 inch "non-Retina" models that are currently offered.

It is speculated that Apple is going to be advertising these unconfirmed machines as a major selling point for "Yosemite." Further, they claim that Apple is creating new versions of iMovie and Final Cut Pro that will be able to edit, export, as well as import 4K content. It seems like Apple is aiming more toward the professional market if this report is true. Whether this information is valid or not, the redesigned OS X will surely please many Mac users once it launches around fall.

Source: 9to5Mac | Image via Apple

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A 12" Macbook Air with retina display is pretty much my idea of a perfect computer. If they can pack 8+ hours of battery life into it then yes it is my perfect computer. It is quite hard to fault the current model Air but I find the 11" a little too small and the 13" a little too big. I have often wished for them to just have a single 12" model. Stick in a 512GB PCIe SSD, an extra USB port and I will be one happy bunny!

bithush said,
A 12" Macbook Air with retina display is pretty much my idea of a perfect computer. If they can pack 8+ hours of battery life into it then yes it is my perfect computer. It is quite hard to fault the current model Air but I find the 11" a little too small and the 13" a little too big. I have often wished for them to just have a single 12" model. Stick in a 512GB PCIe SSD, an extra USB port and I will be one happy bunny!

Bring back the 12" Pro size, I would be all over that :)

What mobile GPU can drive a 27inch iMac at 4k? I'd rather stick with 1440p for better performance. Unless of course one uses the iMac exclusively for work.

JHBrown said,
What mobile GPU can drive a 27inch iMac at 4k? I'd rather stick with 1440p for better performance. Unless of course one uses the iMac exclusively for work.

Yup the mobile chip would need to have 4X the power of current chip to match its performance. The first generation of retina stuff Apple dishes out is usually crap. Like iPad 3.

I have heard Google may release an 8k all metal super touchscreen laptop. And Microsoft may release a new Surface series phone/laptop/desktop/tablet that will kill all competition since nothing will be this good!
/s

Please stop with these crap rumors/apple ads.

Wall-swe said,
I have heard Google may release an 8k all metal super touchscreen laptop. And Microsoft may release a new Surface series phone/laptop/desktop/tablet that will kill all competition since nothing will be this good!
/s

Please stop with these crap rumors/apple ads.

Neowin is, amongst other things, a tech rumours site. If it annoys you, then you're probably in the wrong place.

Chicane-UK said,

Neowin is, amongst other things, a tech rumours site. If it annoys you, then you're probably in the wrong place.

Well we first heard the rumor of a "retina" MacBook air, the year Apple "invented" and released the iPad with "retina", even though the iPhone 4 was released with similar PPI years before. And by now I have seen this "rumor" 20 times+.
And you got this wrong, this is a tech news site, if you want apple rumors you can visit their fanboy site, where they pat each others backs..

Wall-swe said,

Well we first heard the rumor of a "retina" MacBook air, the year Apple "invented" and released the iPad with "retina", even though the iPhone 4 was released with similar PPI years before. And by now I have seen this "rumor" 20 times+.
And you got this wrong, this is a tech news site, if you want apple rumors you can visit their fanboy site, where they pat each others backs..

There's no point continuing to argue about it. You've less than 300 posts on the forum, you've been a member less than a year, and you're dictating what content the site should or should not be posting. You're wrong - move on.

Chicane-UK said,

There's no point continuing to argue about it. You've less than 300 posts on the forum, you've been a member less than a year, and you're dictating what content the site should or should not be posting. You're wrong - move on.

Do you seriously put a value to how many posts someone have on the forum?
A hint that this is actually is a tech NEWS site, is the BIG button on top that says NEWS and not RUMORS.

Wall-swe said,

Do you seriously put a value to how many posts someone have on the forum?
A hint that this is actually is a tech NEWS site, is the BIG button on top that says NEWS and not RUMORS.

So rumours can't be news? Interesting..

I'm quite content to agree to disagree on this one to be honest :)

After actually using some ultra high DPI PCs/Macs, I realized that the experience isn't good unless the screen size is very large. 4K is overkill for 12-inch screens if indeed there is such a display planned.

The scaling is not perfect on OS X, some things appear blurry, although it is MUCH better than Windows. Windows scaling, even with 8.1 is simply horrible on the desktop side, Metro side scaling is very good bcoz it's Modern UI after all.

I think it highly skeptical they will release a new retina Macbook air this october probable next year. 1) There releasing a lot in fall Iphone, iwatch, ipad and 2) They already released a new macbook air this year.

They released a new macbook pro and a few months later the Mac Pro alongside with Maverickss. Apple will release something to help market the new OS.

Also this year, the only significant piece of hardware Apple has announced is the Macbook Air, compared to practically refreshing their entire product line last year (except for the Mac Mini) so it's going to be busy fall for them indeed.

Sept - iPhone/iPod
Oct - Yosemite / New Mac Hardware
Nov - iPad / potentially iWatch

OSX 10.10 makes all the non retina displays out there obsolete. The new font from HelveticaNeue family looks jagged if the resolution is not high enough. Many sites are reporting this. So these retina iMacs will sell like hot cakes.

Anyone notice this?

It makes the current Macbook Air's display look obsolete?

(BTW The MBA is NON "Retina" and so is the current iMacs I believe.
"Retina" in itself is just a marketing term. Plus if apple switched to 4K (which has a higher resolution than "retina" displays) do you think Yosemite would make THAT look bad?

Considering fonts are vectors and not raster images I doubt the update makes HelveticaNeue look worse on old displays (unless they have changed the font rendering system), the font is simply different to the one being used previously. (You'll have to compare HelveticaNeue on a similar system pre and post update to be sure).

The font might have been changed as the new font may look better on higher resolutions screens (likewise some fonts look better when printed)... a cynic might even propose that the font may have even been chosen as it shows greater perceptible difference on low and high res screen - a great marketing trick "update your Mac for free but just look at how great this new screen is".

Yosemite uses Helvetica, not Helvetica Neue, and it does indeed look pretty bad on a low density display (Actually reminds me a lot of Windows there). It should look much better on a higher density display (It can kinda be seen in menus, they use a larger text size so it's clearer)

ians18 said,
It makes the current Macbook Air's display look obsolete?

(BTW The MBA is NON "Retina" and so is the current iMacs I believe.
"Retina" in itself is just a marketing term. Plus if apple switched to 4K (which has a higher resolution than "retina" displays) do you think Yosemite would make THAT look bad?

Uh, what?

"Retina" is indeed Apples marketing term for high resolution displays, and 4K is a higher resolution than what they're currently selling, so what makes you think they wouldn't brand a 4K monitor as a Retina display?

The_Decryptor said,
Yosemite uses Helvetica, not Helvetica Neue, and it does indeed look pretty bad on a low density display (Actually reminds me a lot of Windows there). It should look much better on a higher density display (It can kinda be seen in menus, they use a larger text size so it's clearer)

Uh, what?

"Retina" is indeed Apples marketing term for high resolution displays, and 4K is a higher resolution than what they're currently selling, so what makes you think they wouldn't brand a 4K monitor as a Retina display?

I would expect them (Apple) to market it more than just the plain old Retina. 4k is a huge jump. It was directed at the op, which said 10.10 makes nonretina look obsolete, when in fact, 4k as it stands today is not Retina in marketing terms since apple has not made a 4k display yet. The MBA is also not as it is, but 10.10 looks fine still. My Surface at a lower res is fine too, so what's the issue with Windows?

ians18 said,

I would expect them (Apple) to market it more than just the plain old Retina. 4k is a huge jump. It was directed at the op, which said 10.10 makes nonretina look obsolete, when in fact, 4k as it stands today is not Retina in marketing terms since apple has not made a 4k display yet. The MBA is also not as it is, but 10.10 looks fine still. My Surface at a lower res is fine too, so what's the issue with Windows?

I'm really not sure where you've gotten this idea that "retina" is a specific resolution or something, a 4K monitor will be bigger but it'll still be a higher density so it'll still be a "Retina display", since Apple just double the UI scale so the 4K monitor behaves like a 1920x1080 one.

And sanke1 was pretty clearly talking about low resolution screens (As in he literally said that), so no he didn't mean Yosemite would look bad on a 4K screen, he said the exact opposite.

ians18 said,

My Surface at a lower res is fine too, so what's the issue with Windows?

There is none. The argument is against Windows because Apple.

The_Decryptor said,

I'm really not sure where you've gotten this idea that "retina" is a specific resolution or something, a 4K monitor will be bigger but it'll still be a higher density so it'll still be a "Retina display", since Apple just double the UI scale so the 4K monitor behaves like a 1920x1080 one.

And sanke1 was pretty clearly talking about low resolution screens (As in he literally said that), so no he didn't mean Yosemite would look bad on a 4K screen, he said the exact opposite.


Uhh Retina Display is a marketing term. I was annoyed with the original post which said that it makes all non-Retinal (again a marketing term) look bad. Retina != high res display,

Retina = Apple made displays with specific pixel densities for iPad, iPhone, IPod Touch and MacBook Pro Retina. I am sure OSX 10.10 does not make 4K look bad, right? How about the MacBook Air's screen?

My point is s/he should not refer to high resolution displays as Retina as only Apple calls their displays that, and they have yet to make a 4K display. Retina displays also have specific color reproduction .

ians18 said,

Uhh Retina Display is a marketing term. I was annoyed with the original post which said that it makes all non-Retinal (again a marketing term) look bad. Retina != high res display,

Retina = Apple made displays with specific pixel densities for iPad, iPhone, IPod Touch and MacBook Pro Retina. I am sure OSX 10.10 does not make 4K look bad, right? How about the MacBook Air's screen?

My point is s/he should not refer to high resolution displays as Retina as only Apple calls their displays that, and they have yet to make a 4K display. Retina displays also have specific color reproduction .


Retina may even be a placeholder name. Ok for your sake we refer this super high res screen as New Banana display. But that is not the issue. You are not getting our point. I am using the Public beta build on my iMac 2011 and fonts look very jagged at many places. Some sites like ars technica have covered this issue extensively. OSX 10.10 will definitely make people using non Banana displays upgrade to 4K displays of upcoming iMacs. Whether this move is deliberate or side effect of better software design is debatable.

You need not be annoyed by it. Every company does this planned obsolescence thing.

sanke1 said,

Retina may even be a placeholder name. Ok for your sake we refer this super high res screen as New Banana display. But that is not the issue. You are not getting our point. I am using the Public beta build on my iMac 2011 and fonts look very jagged at many places. Some sites like ars technica have covered this issue extensively. OSX 10.10 will definitely make people using non Banana displays upgrade to 4K displays of upcoming iMacs. Whether this move is deliberate or side effect of better software design is debatable.

You need not be annoyed by it. Every company does this planned obsolescence thing.

But you said all non-retina screens, the MBA has a non-retina screen, and on the one I have here 10.10 is NOT jagged...

ians18 said,

But you said all non-retina screens, the MBA has a non-retina screen, and on the one I have here 10.10 is NOT jagged...

So maybe it's just a display driver issue. If my 2011 iMac goes jaggy with this update I'll pass.

AIr, or Air?

I doubt Apple will move on from the unibody aluminum design they've stuck to over the last few years. Matte screen options would be nice.

They must be axing the 11in MBA, as I doubt they would offer an 11,12, and 13 in MBA. Maybe it will be a 12" and 15"? Possibly to combat the SP3