It's been estimated that Apple has sold roughly 1.5 million iPhone 4s in its first day, and according to an analyst at cnn.com, possibly even more. With that number, Apple has broke its original record for most iPhone sales in a single day.
The original iPhone sold one million units in 74 days while the iPhone 3G sold its first million units in a week and the iPhone 3GS surpassed the one million units sold mark on its opening weekend. With increasing sales volumes like these, the iPhone 4 would definitely show promising numbers.
Apple confirmed that they shipped 600,000 pre-orders to customers in the United States, that they had 100,000 non-reserved units for sale in Apple stores and 50,000 units allocated to sell at Best Buy. Walmart was also selling the iPhone 4, but has yet to say how many units were received or sold.
Apple sold 750,000 units in the United States alone, but also released the phone in four other countries including France, Germany, UK, and Japan on launch day. If each of these countries sold roughly a quarter of what the United States sold, Apple would have sold approximately 1.5 million units.
Apple had great iPhone sales numbers in the past and it's therefore no surprise that 77% of iPhone 4 buyers were existing iPhone customers. Of all the customers interviewed, 6% of them were BlackBerry owners, 3% were Android owners, 2% Nokia owners, and 12% were labeled as “other.”
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ReplyNow think about how many they are going to have to fix....
none. put a cover case on. problem solved
none. put a cover case on. problem solved
Wrong, just hold it different.
Wrong, just hold it different.
(snipped) he was talking about having the devices fixed. what i said fixes the problem meaning im not wrong. what you said also does but who is going to change how they hold it. the cover cases are very common for these devices anyway so it solves the problem. without making you hold it in an possibly awkward way.
none. put a cover case on. problem solved
I wouldn't settle for a case, I'd demand a repair or a refund.
I wouldn't settle for a case, I'd demand a repair or a refund.
not sure where you live, but in the USA, you can get a refund on just about anything within 30 days thanks to consumer laws so it is well within your rights to do so. if sales are still going strong, people are apparently not caring about the issue.
(snipped) he was talking about having the devices fixed. what i said fixes the problem meaning im not wrong. what you said also does but who is going to change how they hold it. the cover cases are very common for these devices anyway so it solves the problem. without making you hold it in an possibly awkward way.
Sarcasm, failed.
Sarcasm, failed.
forgot your sarcasm tags
not sure where you live, but in the USA, you can get a refund on just about anything within 30 days thanks to consumer laws so it is well within your rights to do so. if sales are still going strong, people are apparently not caring about the issue.
correction, people weren't aware about this issues on first day of launch
none. put a cover case on. problem solved
Actually, put a cover on it, stand at a 45 degree angle, and then say the lords prayer 3 times in order for it to work.
Guy at work has the new iPhone and didnt know about the glitch. He uses a cover, but wasnt to please that there was a design flaw that Apple wouldnt fix. And dont give me "they are giving away free covers" as an excuse. People are ****ed and this was the cheapest thing Apple thought of.
correction, people weren't aware about this issues on first day of launch
If you bothered to follow, this issue was all over the news and the internet on the day of the launch. In fact, i read about it at around 9.00am on the 24th on various web sites with video's.
To be frank, i haven't yet noticed this issue on my iPhone 4. I will try to replicate it and see what happens. More over as people always purchase cases for their phones, that resolves the issue.
iPhone has made us not want to use a phone as a phone.
HA
I believe that honour goes to BlackBerry!
(and Nokia in Europe)
Their phones were heavily used for e-mail and web browsing even before the iPhone came along.
I would say that's a lot that have to be recalled... but then again, Apple doesn't seem to play that game. It's a design feature.
You could compare it to a game release, go and look at any official forum the weeks after release every thread us about problems or that the game or the developers suck so with all those post it must, right? Nope it's just that the people who like it and don't hay any problems are happily playing their game.
what
You could compare it to a game release, go and look at any official forum the weeks after release every thread us about problems or that the game or the developers suck so with all those post it must, right? Nope it's just that the people who like it and don't hay any problems are happily playing their game.
You comparison does not hold water. One is a software issue that can easily fixed by altering the code while the other is a hardware issue.
An issue of antennas conflicting with each other and therefore dropping the call when simple HOLDING the phone is a BIG problem. I'm shocked that they didn't find this while testing it.
This isn't your everyday bug... the phone already doesn't work well thanks to ATT, now it works even worst!
what do they cost where you are? they cost the exact same as any other smart phone here in the usa with a contract.
And what should it cost? How many other, brand new, smartphones are priced at what the iPhone is priced at? Especially considering that you would have to buy a memory card to get the 16/32GB the iPhone has. But personal feelings aside and use logic...or Google.
And what should it cost? How many other, brand new, smartphones are priced at what the iPhone is priced at? Especially considering that you would have to buy a memory card to get the 16/32GB the iPhone has. But personal feelings aside and use logic...or Google.
It costs £40 a month (24 months) plus £160 for the phone
or not
Apple builds a lot of their sales on their brand.
It costs £40 a month (24 months) plus £160 for the phone
Depends entirely on what tariff you get. It can actually be £35 a month with £119 for the cost of the 16GB phone on o2. The prices you mentioned aren't on the o2 site at all so I'm guessing they're from a different network, but it's even cheaper than you said and it's relatively normal pricing. Sure you can get better deals, but it's not really that outrageous at all. Not sure why people are bitching about the prices so much, in the UK at least
It costs £40 a month (24 months) plus £160 for the phone
So how is the iPhone overpriced? Even after converting those prices to USD the phone is fairly priced.
It is the carrier who decides how much they wish to subsidise it by, not Apple.
Over three quarters of those buying an iPhone on launch day are upgrading--that's pretty impressive.
Is the older iPhone so bad that users are migrating in droves, like Vista -> 7?
I dunno, if a line of products is so great, it ought to be attracting new buyers first and foremost.
Is the older iPhone so bad that users are migrating in droves, like Vista -> 7?
I dunno, if a line of products is so great, it ought to be attracting new buyers first and foremost.
The new data plan is pretty appealing to the consumer being $15 cheaper than the old plan. If the numbers were right about 97% or so of AT&T not using over 250mb a month, people would be upgrading their plans anyway. New phone + cheaper plan.
My 3G has been nothing but trouble, hopefully my 4 will be a lot better
Is the older iPhone so bad that users are migrating in droves, like Vista -> 7?
I dunno, if a line of products is so great, it ought to be attracting new buyers first and foremost.
There's a lot of 3G users (like myself) who have been waiting for the next but one model. The previous models aren't bad, but most carriers are offering early upgrades (or in the UK for example, O2 are only offering it to current customers because of the low stock) so it makes sense to see super high upgrade numbers on launch day.
All the "new" customers Apple get will either be from the cheap price of the 3GS, or a few months down the road. Launch day people are going to be the people most obsessed with the product - previous owners.
+1 Satisfied customers come back again.
The reality is that Apple deliberately omits features from each revision in order to generate sales for the next. Look at the latest additions - a flash for the camera; a forward facing camera; a decent main camera; video calls, etc. All of those were present in much, much cheaper phones as standard features. At the end of the day Apple's customers really don't value money like most do - they simply want what they perceive to be the best and that unfortunately means that whenever a new revision is released the old model becomes undesirable. It's built in obsolescence.
Their products are merely good - it's the marketing that is brilliant.
people who dont pay attention to the whole picture are "really starting to get boring!" The yellow patches go away and the bad reception is easily fixable. (snipped)
people who dont pay attention to the whole picture are "really starting to get boring!" The yellow patches go away and the bad reception is easily fixable.(snipped)
Sput, you have absolute proof of these claims you make? They have test that show that after 1 month the spots go away? Since these phones haven't been out that long, stop your fud spreading and stick to facts, huh.
people who dont pay attention to the whole picture are "really starting to get boring!" The yellow patches go away
If I spend £500 on a product I DO NOT expect to have something on it 'that goes away' it's not what's described therefore it's defective.
The question comes to mind... why is there an issue to begin with? Not like a $3.00 case is that big of a deal, but it's still something extra for the phone to work like it should. Had I gotten an IPhone 4, I'd be asking for the issue to be resolved in a timely manner or a full refund. I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one. The yellow spots, well... let's just say that even if they do go away, the moment they showed up on my screen, I'd still be going to the nearest AT&T dealer and asking for my money back. Glitches happen with brand new electronics... as in getting monitors with dead pixels or CPUs that don't run at all, but still... it's an exception to the rule, not the rule.
people who dont pay attention to the whole picture are "really starting to get boring!" The yellow patches go away and the bad reception is easily fixable. (snipped)
Yea, you have to "fix" something you just bought out of the box. Anyone accepting this either loves to use a phone cover, or is a fanboy. What about all those other people who dont like to use covers. Hell, screw that....what ever happened to the responsibility of the company and doing what was right for the customers? Oh, I forgot....the "Jesus" phone has a direct line to God...they are exempt from doing the right thing...but seriously, if not recall the phones then offer some kind of discount/money back. Doesnt have to be much...just enough to show your customers that you give a damn.
then stop watching ads and marketing material on the internet and get out play some soccer
wow do you really fail that bad? apple is the ones saying put a cover on it and it will fix it. there is nothing magic about it. seriously go troll somewhere else with your anti apple "fud"
Up next in tomorrow's news...car manufacturers don't bother painting their cars, say "Do It Yourself"
If I buy a phone that has a problem, I would expect the company to fix it or replace it. I don't want to hear that company go "Buy a case" or "hold it different," regardless of manufacturer. If I bought an HTC phone and was told by a sales rep / customer service I had to hold it different to get it to work, I would throw it back at the persons face and demand a refund. In Apple's case though, all you fans are like..oh its ok steve jobs...we'll continue to kiss your ass even more.
then stop watching ads and marketing material on the internet and get out play some soccer
What is the point of that reply? All you are doing is stooping down to a childish level and insulting, very badly I might add.
why wait a month when people already have the spots going away.(snipped)
Look pal, when I pay for *anything*, I don't intend on waiting any amount of time for anything to go away. Period. It really doesn't matter which company it is, it's unacceptable - a point you conveniently ignore. Being this company is Apple, I expect far more than "hey, put a bumper on it", or "don't hold it that way". Fanboism really does transcend common sense doesn't it?
Like many people have said, you don't want to buy a device that has yellow blotches on the screen.
Examples: You just got your new 3D TV, but there's some yellow spots on the screen. Manufacturer tells you they'll disappear in time. Are you happy? No.
You buy a new BMW 5 Series. It has yellow bumps on the paint job. "They'll disappear" BMW says. Still happy? No.
I would demand replacements for all three of those products, since there are plenty of them that don't have the yellow spots.
And about the antenna issue, "Just put a case on it", NO. You just bought a new Ducatti (beautiful motorcycle) but there's a scratch near the rear seat. "Just put an aftermarket seat on it". Sureeeee.
You just got a new computer, but the WiFi fails to connect. "Just buy a USB WiFi card. NO.
Your defenses of Apple are really sad here. They made a mistake with the iPhone 4, and like any other company, they should be held responsable.
Amazing how people like you will then turn around, after saying things should work out of the box, to apologise for the crapware installed on PC's by OEM's with you stating "it only takes a few hours to uninstall it!". Either have a consistent position or don't say anything at all.
Most people who have the old Iphones don't like how they aren't able to do as much as the androids, but also don't want the hassle and fees that come with signing up with a totally new provider, so they are upgrading. Most of my friends would rather have a android phone, but since they are stuck with at&t, they are stuck with apple if they want a decent phone... If you call a decent phone one that requires you to duct tape it so it will actually work as a phone... oh ya, thats not a fix, thast called bait and switch, which is very very frowned upon by those with a brain.
"aren't able to do as much as the androids" Like what? (speaking post-jailbreak here)
It's good you have to void your warranty to get shoddy multitask ability.... Should I go on? I think the part where I stated, you just voided your warranty to get what I already have, beat you down.... Unless you are all for voiding your warranty to have standard functionality.
Free Voice Navigation services, Flash and the FULL internet, ability to get porn ( if I wanted ) apps, ability to add extra storage, another battery.....
It's good you have to void your warranty to get shoddy multitask ability.... Should I go on? I think the part where I stated, you just voided your warranty to get what I already have, beat you down.... Unless you are all for voiding your warranty to have standard functionality.
Free Voice Navigation services, Flash and the FULL internet, ability to get porn ( if I wanted ) apps, ability to add extra storage, another battery.....
Not really earth shattering things...
Flash isn't a big deal... I don't go to many sites that use flash. HTML 5 is working on the ones I do. Otherwise content is available in iphone comp formats. I have yet to go, gee... I wish I had a flash or a player for that".
Porn? Screen is way to small for that... not to mention I probably wouldn't want to be holding my phone for such a thing. However, once again, I can load porn just fine on my phone.
Storage and free voice navi I'll give you, but that wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
Battery is under warranty, powermats, portable chargers, and what not can also charge the phone.
Except I can restore my firmware with no trace of having jailbroken it, if I need to return it.
I have literally never needed Flash on my iPhone, ever. I don't see the big fuss over it.
"Full" internet? Funny, considering Safari is slightly superior to the browser on Android, I have compared the two personally.
Ability to get Porn? Does the iPhone filter porn sites/media? No.
Your extra storage/battery point is fair play, major iPhone drawback.
I'm not even a fanboy, and I appreciate the Android platform, but blindly trashing the iOS is completely retarded.
Decent apps make the iPhone "platform" so great.
Appstore may be strict and not so open like the Android market, but dude please... take a look on both and don't tell me you can't see any difference between the quality of the programs on them. Regarding this, it's also kind of funny to see how many people blame the lack of apps on the age of the Android system, compared to iPhone OS. When Appstore first introduced, few months later there were tons of great apps to download. Android market is in it's second or third year, (I don't know exactly.) still... Moreover in my country there isn't any option to buy paid apps from it. I won't say it's not getting better but Google needs to figure something out to set a standard in the phones hardware I think. Too many variations of them now, also too many versions of the Android OS itself. A smartphone operating systems shouldn't be updated so quickly, they handle their system like some of their internet service, adding few stuff then call it a new version. It's okay in that case since you don't even need to lift your finger, it's running on their server but with Android... They need to slow down and optimize it. Anyways I think they've already realized it as I've read somewhere recently, there were something about this. Now I'm not hating Android or such, I just fail to recognize why so many people are obsessed with it so much. I've seen it on few of my colleagues phone, 1.5, 2.1 too, but although I still have a 3GS, I wouldn't trade it to an Android phone for anything. At least not yet.
I think this is the reason why 77% of the purchases are updates. People already got bored with their phone, they just couldn't find a better alternative. This is my opinion at least.
+Sorry for my english, it's not my native language
It's good you have to void your warranty to get shoddy multitask ability.... Should I go on? I think the part where I stated, you just voided your warranty to get what I already have, beat you down.... Unless you are all for voiding your warranty to have standard functionality.
Free Voice Navigation services, Flash and the FULL internet, ability to get porn ( if I wanted ) apps, ability to add extra storage, another battery.....
just saying...
1. jailbreak does not void you warranty... and even if it did you could just do a restore and there is no way to tell it has ever been jailbroken...
2. flash, would be nice to have yes, but really i rarely run in to something flash based that i am actually missing, big part of the web, yea sure, let's see, if we ignore adds we got video sites which consist of youtube and a lot of other smaller not as good ones and youtube is supported, what else is there? hmm flash games, well those are built for a mouse anyway and i got plenty of games to choose too... what more? can't really think of much else, flash seriously isnt that big part of the web, i dont really encounter it to much on my normal computer either, it's adds, games and youtube...
Appstore may be strict and not so open like the Android market, but dude please... take a look on both and don't tell me you can't see any difference between the quality of the programs on them. Regarding this, it's also kind of funny to see how many people blame the lack of apps on the age of the Android system, compared to iPhone OS. When Appstore first introduced, few months later there were tons of great apps to download. Android market is in it's second or third year, (I don't know exactly.) still... Moreover in my country there isn't any option to buy paid apps from it. I won't say it's not getting better but Google needs to figure something out to set a standard in the phones hardware I think. Too many variations of them now, also too many versions of the Android OS itself. A smartphone operating systems shouldn't be updated so quickly, they handle their system like some of their internet service, adding few stuff then call it a new version. It's okay in that case since you don't even need to lift your finger, it's running on their server but with Android... They need to slow down and optimize it. Anyways I think they've already realized it as I've read somewhere recently, there were something about this. Now I'm not hating Android or such, I just fail to recognize why so many people are obsessed with it so much. I've seen it on few of my colleagues phone, 1.5, 2.1 too, but although I still have a 3GS, I wouldn't trade it to an Android phone for anything. At least not yet.
I think this is the reason why 77% of the purchases are updates. People already got bored with their phone, they just couldn't find a better alternative. This is my opinion at least.
+Sorry for my english, it's not my native language
You just made too much sense on Neowin on an Apple story. Let the anti-Apple, anti-iPhone trolls have their way. I haven't yet heard the "more money than sense" line yet. That one always makes me laugh.
Free Voice Navigation would be nice...yes
Flash...I think people generally manage without it but it would be nice
Porn apps...Theres the web for that so its not an issue
Ability to add storage...I'd say its not an issue. For most 32GB is probably fine
Removable battery...Again something consumers as a whole don't care about...if they did iPods and Macbooks etc etc would have suffered for it. Certainly some users want it but the market as a whole doesn't care.
Anyway with iOS4 theres even less reason to bother Jailbreaking given they have a multitasking implementation. I know theres other reasons besides that to Jailbreak, but they sure removed a big one last week.
Apple is not gonna want to recall that many, it likely thats contributing to Steve Jobs stubborn attitude.
But how many have been sent back?
Apple use to have very high customer satisfaction in independent surveys, but it's popular to write articles talking of the few recalls that are being made because their hardware is expensive.
Yup, I think it is software now. There is video evidence of 3G and 3GS showing the same behaviour after iOS 4 is applied.
Very interesting.
(snipped)
It sold so many because people like you fail to understand how the device doesn't work..... simple as that. It is not a software problem, its a design/hardware problem. If you knew anything about antennas, reception, and how the human body affects it, you would then understand why this is such a big deal.
I can actually reproduce this signal loss issue with my 3Gs, obviously not so dramatically like others with their new iPhone, I need to hold it in both of my hands and almost cover it as much as I can, but it's still there.
Now the funny thing is until this point, when someone spotted and posted it on the web, I haven't even noticed. I bet there are many people out there in the same shoes as myself.
It's not that big deal in my opinion, but of course I'm still talking about the older models, the new one could be affected a lot more.
Now the funny thing is until this point, when someone spotted and posted it on the web, I haven't even noticed. I bet there are many people out there in the same shoes as myself.
It's not that big deal in my opinion, but of course I'm still talking about the older models, the new one could be affected a lot more.
The new phone is a whole different type of antenna set up and due to where it is, a person holding the phone will cause it to short the signal out. No amount of software programming will fix a hardware design flaw. Don't be mad at me for pointing it out, be mad at Apple for duping you all into this shoddy hardware they call a phone.
The new phone is a whole different type of antenna set up and due to where it is, a person holding the phone will cause it to short the signal out. No amount of software programming will fix a hardware design flaw. Don't be mad at me for pointing it out, be mad at Apple for duping you all into this shoddy hardware they call a phone.
The 3Gs has the old style antenna and still has the sample problem, so its a software issue.
The 3Gs has the old style antenna and still has the sample problem, so its a software issue.
The 3GS doesn't drop a call because of holding the phone normally, does it? I don't believe so.
The iPhone 4 has a completely new antenna design, and when you hold it with your left hand the WiFi part of the antenna will connect with the cellular part of the antenna, through your hand, causing it to short out and drop the signal/call.
That's hardware my friend.
or, like everyone else, put a case cover on it to fix it and move on with your life.
Guess what? I don't want to put a case to cover it! and guess what else? I like holding the phone in that region! and finally guess? I asked for a refund
The new phone is a whole different type of antenna set up and due to where it is, a person holding the phone will cause it to short the signal out. No amount of software programming will fix a hardware design flaw. Don't be mad at me for pointing it out, be mad at Apple for duping you all into this shoddy hardware they call a phone.
Funny, when i hold my phone, it has no problems. Oddly, i do not clench my fist while holding the phone. I hold my phone on my fingertips with my thumb on one edge and my four fingers on the other. Not sure how one can talk on their phone while holding it with a clenched fist.
I've seen some weird ways people hold their phone - if you ever want something to amuse yourself whilst waiting for a flight that is the best thing to pass by the time. I too 'man handle' my phone either and don't have a single problem.
So 23% growth is not bad. I am sure pro Apple sites will spin it differently. I am also sure that some of those old iPhones will continued to be used for a year or so.
So on launch day, AT&T activated roughly 300K new iOS users. Android has been averaging over a 160K activations on a typical day.
Android is used by multiple manufacturers for a start. Why does everyone have to be so one-sided? I'm an iPhone user but acknowledge android has come on leaps and bounds in a short time. It's not quite there yet for me, mainly because of the fragmented versioning/upgradinig and the Marketplace isn't as good.
It always amuses me when people say "you have to jailbreak your iphone to make it good". You have to root your android device to install the latest software on some phones which are less than a year old!
Can't we all just appreciate there's good smartphone competition now, and gone are the days of the stalemates of Windows Mobile and Symbian?
Enjoying you Android 2.2? oh, thats right! it hasn't been released yet! and you'll be waiting another 6-12months before your lazy hand set manufacturer finally updates their phone (assuming they don't shaft you and tell you to upgrade the phone itself). Yeah, really sucks to be an Android user at the moment.
Oh, that's not just AT&T since these are worldwide figures.
77% from upgrades lolz. As far as gaining new user bases, fruity isnt doing well with initial release imo.
Really?
After 4 releases they are still selling hundreds of thousands to new customers on the first day....and here in the UK some networks are only selling upgrades for now.
/Facepalm
It's launch day. The Apple(snipped)obsessed are the people who buy on launch day because you have to queue for hours before the store even opens to get one. It's not rocket science. Apple will gain new users by the cheaper 3GS price or when their marketing campaign actually starts (I havne't seen one iPhone commercial on the TV in the UK yet)
Huh. Obviously the early figures will be skewed towards existing owners, since they, uh, are the fans after all. Let's wait a few more months to see a more reliable statistics as for the user base distribution.
"Apple sold 1.5 million iPhone 4s on launch day, 77% were double-suckers"
Haha. Anyway, enough apple bashing jokes.
I'm sure every single person that got one is very happy with it, just as I am with food.
Haha. Anyway, enough apple bashing jokes.
I'm sure every single person that got one is very happy with it, just as I am with food.
but, but, we were just getting started
I don't have a problem with the 77 percent, it the other percent that's bothersome did they know it has a 2 gig limit? what idiots encouraging companies to wape them and others in the future.
What I don't understand is who actually palms their phones when they hold them? I feel retarded with my palm on my face making a call... 3 fingers at most. When I text or type two fingers on the back with the bottom held by my ring fingers typing with my thumb. I'm I'm typing one handed I have 4 fingers on the back and use my pinky to support the bottom of the phone...
ROFL ..holding iPhones is srs bsns!
Apologist much?
Steve Jobs is going to have fun with all the complaints...
the complain will help to feed apple news,as long there don't have any big issues with the new iphone
it's just a small problem but easy step to fix by the way i think won't have much stuff to complain further to the Phone...it's just a phone again
Apple will be in trouble if those 1.5 million people decide to "Hold it wrong."
Any more trolling on this article will be met with posting restrictions. Period.
Over 1 of every 3 news is about Apple, or more specifically about Iphone and the spin off Ipad.
In comparison, the real amount of users is less than 10%. In fact, Symbian is way more popular than Iphone and i don't remember the last thing that i read news about symbian on Neowin.
So, it is clear that those news are flamebaiting the rest of the users that really does not care about this specific brand.
Think the "trolling post" as a customer complain.