BlackBerry reveals when to expect BBM for Windows Phone

Last month, at the unveiling of its first Android handsets, Nokia announced that it had successfully negotiated with BlackBerry to bring that company's BlackBerry Messenger app to Windows Phone. 

Prior to that, BlackBerry had given no indication that it was even interested in launching software for Windows Phone, the rival platform that has pushed it into fourth place in the smartphone market. Indeed, as recently as January, the company reiterated that it had "no plans" for Microsoft's mobile OS. 

Now, though, those plans are very much in the works, but the exact release date remains ambiguous. The latest information, which comes via TechCrunch, was revealed by BlackBerry CEO John Chen in a company earnings call this week. Chen said that the app is targeted for "Fiscal Q2" - the second quarter in the company's fiscal year - indicating that it could arrive as early as May 2014, or as late as July. 

Chen also said that BBM will be pre-loaded onto Nokia X Android handsets and certain Lumia devices in selected markets, once BBM finally launches on Windows Phone. 

Source: TechCrunch via WMPowerUser

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BBM on WIndows Phone seems a no-brainer to me. If any phone is "enterprise friendly and enterprise ready", it's Windows Phone... especially with WP8.1 and integration/syncing with Windows 8.1 systems, OneDrive, etc.

Can't wait for it (for my wife). She switched from the Q10 to the Lumia 1020 because of hardware issues. She loves the Nokia but hates the fact that BBM is not available as yet. That was the deciding factor for her before I could get her to switch (around January this year). So please Nokia, push the BBM guys to publish this thing asap. Me, I don't care one bit about it, but I would happily get rid of her nagging me about BBM for WP8

Microsoft should now say that the Blackberry mobile market share is too low to support with Microsoft Exchange and cut them off as a huge lesson learned.

Riva said,
Microsoft should now say that the Blackberry mobile market share is too low to support with Microsoft Exchange and cut them off as a huge lesson learned.

Then that would cut everyone else off then. BB10 uses Activesync just like WP, Android and Apple. Are you really that ignorant?

While I won't be getting this myself, I think its great to see. I hope that BlackBerry can rally and compete with Microsoft, rising as they rise. Ideally, 3rd and 4th should be well contested as they both grow in marketshare and hopefully profitability. I don't think I want either one to get within reach of 2nd place, but I don't think they have to, either.

I really want to see a good, diverse selection of mobile OS's to choose from. Protection through diversity - a homogenous computing landscape isn't really beneficial IMO, and means that malware/virus writers can get a tremendous market with far less work. If the market is split up between 2, 3, maybe even 6 good smartphone OS's? That works out well for everyone (here's hoping FireFoxOS and Ubuntu manage to take off within a couple years).

Every time I see a post about BlackBerry, I make a little bet with myself to see how many comments it takes for someone to proclaim "BlackBerry is dead" or "who?".

Congratulations to the first 2 posters here highlighting your ignorance to the world.

BlackBerry is dead? Tell that to investors who have enjoyed a 70% share price increase over the past few months.

BlackBerry is dead? Tell that to BB10 users who LOVE their devices! Go to Amazon and read reviews from REAL people about the Z30 and Q10 - fantastic devices.

BlackBerry is dead? Tell that to their 60m subscribers and the thousands of businesses around the world upgrading to the latest BES platform.

BlackBerry may not be at the pinnacle, but they are far from dead.

FalseAgent said,
BlackBerry's hardware is definitely dead, I know some people that tried the Q10 and Z30 and hated it.

I know some people who hate it too. The majority do not hate it.

Good work in coming to a conclusion on your small sample of anecdotal data.

FalseAgent said,
BlackBerry's hardware is definitely dead, I know some people that tried the Q10 and Z30 and hated it.

cool story.. I know some people that tried an iPhone and hated it because of the tiny baby screen.. Is apple dead then too by your logic?

er0n said,

I know some people who hate it too. The majority do not hate it.

Good work in coming to a conclusion on your small sample of anecdotal data.

Okay then, what about the sales figures for BlackBerry's BB10 OS devices, and them restarting production of the Blackberry Bold 9900? What about their marketshare? Why isn't it higher if people love their BlackBerries? Also, what phone are you using right now? If it isn't a BlackBerry, you are totally a hypocrite for saying that BlackBerry is as good as you say it is. I hope all these data out there isn't a "small sample" of "anecdotal data" to you.

Well, perhaps both of you are right. BB are dead in many markets they used to own. However, they have their speciality and within certain niche markets they can still flourish which is what their new leadership looks to be aiming to do. They will never be what they were, but as they downsize and focus on their core markets they can still be a successful company.

I doubt many people here will be interested in their phones again, but in some markets they can succeed. I also reckon if they adopted Android (as people always used to say Nokia should do) they could have a chance at winning back market share, especially to business people who've moved to iPhone and Samsung Androids; and then who knows; the technology market moves fast.

EvilAstroboy said,
BB is dead, MS should just buy them already, we all know that Ms have been eye'ing them off for a long time now

That was when they figured they could add BB's 3% markethare to their own. Particular the appeal BB had on the business market. But BB is on their way down, Apple is invading the office. The paradigm that only BB is good enough for business has been shattered. I wouldn't pay too much for BB at this point.

Microsoft doesn't need them to produce their own phones anymore. Perhaps BB holds some interesting patents but you never hear about Google or Apple infringing on BB property. At this point BBM is their most valuable property. And BBM lost its coolness in the west. Microsoft would be better off heavily investing in Skype and turning that into a fast and easy chat service (like an faster app (i.e. Skype lite) that doesnt need to load up videochat functionality).

Ronnet said,
Perhaps BB holds some interesting patents but you never hear about Google or Apple infringing on BB property. At this point BBM is their most valuable property. And BBM lost its coolness in the west. Microsoft would be better off heavily investing in Skype and turning that into a fast and easy chat service (like an faster app (i.e. Skype lite) that doesnt need to load up videochat functionality).

BlackBerry is also a partner in Rockstar Consortium that recently sued Google for infringing patents in Android. Also I think you're forgetting about a little Microsoft service known as Lync.

AsherGZ said,

BlackBerry is also a partner in Rockstar Consortium that recently sued Google for infringing patents in Android. Also I think you're forgetting about a little Microsoft service known as Lync.

I'm sure they hold some interesting patents but they don't appear critical to today's smartphone design. At least I suspect not or we would have heared more about those kind of cases.

I'm not forgetting about Lync. But thats more B2B. Skype has mainstream appeal although it was never as cool as Whatsapp. But consumers of all ages found it incredibly useful and continue to use it. They know it and to a large extent they trust it as well. I think Microsoft could turn it into a responsive chat service. At the very least make such an app the native messaging functionality of Windows phones and tablets. I used to chat via the native messaging app on my Surface but since Skype is the default I've only used Facebook chat.

To you. Skype was already more popular before Whatsapp was even created. Whatsapp is just an clone which just happened to get popular in the US.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
To you. Skype was already more popular before Whatsapp was even created. Whatsapp is just an clone which just happened to get popular in the US.

You're putting words in m mouth then. When did I say 'never as cool as Skype'?

If they are dead why should MS buy them? What advantage would their be to MS?

WP is taking off, they don't need BB's tiny share - and it's not like they can just swap every BB phone for a WP phone in any case. I actually don't think BB are dead though, as a phone manufacturer they will never be what they were, but they can downsize and be profitable in niche markets.

TheShark said,
If they are dead why should MS buy them? What advantage would their be to MS?

WP is taking off, they don't need BB's tiny share - and it's not like they can just swap every BB phone for a WP phone in any case. I actually don't think BB are dead though, as a phone manufacturer they will never be what they were, but they can downsize and be profitable in niche markets.

Which market would that be? The smartphone OS competition is as much about the OS itself as it is about the larger ecosystem. BB could focus on business clients but its iPad and iPhone that is getting apps to connect with traditional desktop applications/cloud-based services that business use. It won't happen overnight but eventually all businesses will catch on and only smartphones that are part of a larger ecosystem will qualify. A small niche player can't invest enough to sustain such an ecosystem. I don't think the OS market is one for niche players.

It needn't be the OS market though. They can focus on BBM, BES and other enterprise stuff (don't know enough to use more acronyms). I could even see them going fully Android, people always wanted the BB keyboard with Android.

TheShark said,
It needn't be the OS market though. They can focus on BBM, BES and other enterprise stuff (don't know enough to use more acronyms). I could even see them going fully Android, people always wanted the BB keyboard with Android.

You were talking about WP taking off but BB not being dead yet. Seemed to me as if you were talking about offering an OS to a niche. Of course there is Always room for quality hardware running quality software.

I don't know which part of SEA you are from but it's not, not since 2011 at least, when BBM servers went down multiple times, once for as long as three days disrupting workflow and costing businesses and enterprises started looking at other solutions. Since then, the company's actions have done nothing but made corporations lose faith in the service. iPhones replaced Blackberries, iMessage and Lync replaced BBM.

sinis said,

Really ?
BBM is HUGE in South East Asia.


It is not anymore.

Where do you think those high number of whatsapp/line/wechat users come from?

pratnala said,
Nobody cares!

I'm pretty pumped.. I'm from Canada and quite a few people are still using it. I would much rather use a messenger from Blackberry then anything from Facebook, Microsoft, Google..

It's all WhatsApp here in India. I think BBM's remaining stronghold is Indonesia. Not long before WhatsApp/Viber/WeChat conquer it as well.