Dropbox appoints Condoleezza Rice as a board member, stirs controversy

Dropbox announced changes in its management which also included the appointment of former Secretary of State of the United States, Condoleezza Rice, to its board of directors, that was criticized by users from the United States as well as around the world.

The cloud storage company appointed Sujay Baswa as its CFO and the ex-CEO of Motorola, Dennis Woodside as its COO in the recent management shakeup. However, the appointment of Dr. Condoleezza Rice to the board of directors did not go over well with Dropbox users due to her role in setting up policies against Iraq and support for American intelligence agencies.

A website called Drop-Dropbox was set up by protestors to explain their opposition of Condoleezza Rice as a board member of the popular cloud storage company and the post about the website generated nearly 1000 comments on Hacker News. Additionally, Twitter users started using the #DropDropbox hashtag to express their grief.

Recently, Mozilla was subject to similar criticism after the company appointed anti-gay marriage supporter Brendan Eich as its CEO. Following the public outrage, Brendan chose to leave the company. Dropbox has declined to comment on the current state of protests and their stance regarding the appointment of Condoleezza Rice.

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Here is my idea. I am going to create a website service, called "hire-or-fire.com". Companies will send us a picture along with a history of there current employees or possibly future employees along with a short history and links to social networks for that person. Then like those "hot or not" websites the internet users will vote to either keep or not keep an employee. Because as we know the internet it is full of geniuses. Just imagine all the people who sit on their butt not running a company we know they are better at running companies because they tell us so. I am of course going to make a billion dollars, that is if you all don't vote me out of my own company.

Edited by pjosephson, Apr 11 2014, 5:04pm :

If Dropbox decide to drop her, like Mozilla dropped the former CEO, then we know its only due to the color of her skin. If that happens, let's get a partition going labeling dropbox a racists organization that doesn't like blacks.

@ xiralos,
Exactly..

We are talking about a file serving company right? Her job descriptions are different I'm sure. I don't think she is going to lead a blitzkrieg with computer files.

Boycotting products/services because of political views.

The root of all problems: Politics and religion (even though religion is politics in itself)

This just for advertising and attention seeking.

What the hell does she know about tech and storage, probably nothing.

Employ someone that works hard and knows what-is-what.

scumdogmillionaire said,
Didn't anyone learn from Mozilla? The entire world is your HR department now and controls whom you hire and fire. They should have run it by everyone first. :-|

scumdogmillionaire said,
Didn't anyone learn from Mozilla? Tumblr is your HR department now and controls whom you hire and fire. They should have run it by everyone first. :-|

fixed that for you

I dropped Dropbox 2 years ago, because the endorsed that awful President Obama for re-election. If Condi Rice is a member of the board, then I will gladly comeback and use their services again.

People who are against the Iraqi policies are absolutely clueless. Those policies are so good even Obama doesn't want to stop it's enforcement.

if Dropbox decides to drop her then we know its only because she is black.

I don't hope they are a bunch of KKK wannabe's at Dropbox

So, the people protesting Dropbox' appointment of Rice are demonstrating how truly racist and sexist they are. That's what this is really about. And rice is the double threat because she's both. Great job!

....P.S. Before the ignorant among start jumping on this, I'll remind you that this is EXACTLY what every stupid liberal says when we criticize their little darlings like Obama, Holder and others. It couldn't possibly be that conservatives despise their world view and political philosophies, could it?

Robert Wade said,
So, the people protesting Dropbox' appointment of Rice are demonstrating how truly racist and sexist they are. That's what this is really about. And rice is the double threat because she's both. Great job!

Nice generalisation. Totally enforces your point. Great job

I think you forget there are people who live outside of the US of A who are neither liberals or conservatives but still understand the issues involved.

It won't apply for her, since she is not liberal ...

Robert Wade said,
So, the people protesting Dropbox' appointment of Rice are demonstrating how truly racist and sexist they are. That's what this is really about. And rice is the double threat because she's both. Great job!

....P.S. Before the ignorant among start jumping on this, I'll remind you that this is EXACTLY what every stupid liberal says when we criticize their little darlings like Obama, Holder and others. It couldn't possibly be that conservatives despise their world view and political philosophies, could it?

Robert Wade said,
So, the people protesting Dropbox' appointment of Rice are demonstrating how truly racist and sexist they are. That's what this is really about. And rice is the double threat because she's both. Great job!

....P.S. Before the ignorant among start jumping on this, I'll remind you that this is EXACTLY what every stupid liberal says when we criticize their little darlings like Obama, Holder and others. It couldn't possibly be that conservatives despise their world view and political philosophies, could it?

All too true! Liberals seem to have this ludicrous notion that they can preach being open to everyone and tolerance, etc yet are free to discriminate and be flat out intolerant of all those they don't agree with. Hypocrites.

Nogib said,

All too true! Liberals seem to have this ludicrous notion that they can preach being open to everyone and tolerance, etc yet are free to discriminate and be flat out intolerant of all those they don't agree with. Hypocrites.

Have you ever thought that Mr Obama would be just as bad a choice as Ms Rice ? Sometimes it's not about politics but about politicians - and why you would want to trust ANY of them is beyond me.

Companies really need better personal screening techniques on employees :p Especially big name ones who cater to different kinds of people.

I think that the main issue here is that Rice has demonstrated that she is happily willing to violate rights and laws, especially regarding privacy and data monitoring. I'm not saying she'll wave a magic wand and hand the database over to the NSA, but it is a disturbing precedent.

As a customer, I would not (don't have a Dropbox account) want the company led by someone with a history of violating privacy laws, and *that* is why I'd flee.

Zagadka said,
I think that the main issue here is that Rice has demonstrated that she is happily willing to violate rights and laws, especially regarding privacy and data monitoring.

DropBox is to share files. Legal files. If you have nothing to hide, why care?

riahc3 said,
If you have nothing to hide, why care?
I keep seeing this nonsense repeated. So you're saying people who aren't doing anything illegal should have no right to privacy at all?

My browser didn't start making donations to anti-gay groups and my DropBox account didn't start declaring war on other countries. Not too worried about it or going to blow it out of proportion.. quite a few companies with shady dealings, boycott them all and you'll wind up living in a cave.

But still, if you, lets say, pay for extra GBs in Cropbox, you, may be seen as someone who supports this Rice girl(Im not from the US, so shes unfamiliar).
The reason is that since you pay for their service. part of your payments go to the payroll of the employees, such as her.

I only use a free account.. but if I did pay for the service, I'd be paying to support the service, not one individual in the company. Same goes for any company. Besides, if she's an employee, then of course she gets paid, that's kind of the whole point of a job and all that. I'm sure there's somebody in every company I wouldn't care for, should I be sending in a letter with my utility payments saying "Make sure Mr. _____ doesn't get paid because I don't care for his beliefs"?

_YOLO_ said,
But still, if you, lets say, pay for extra GBs in Cropbox, you, may be seen as someone who supports this Rice girl(Im not from the US, so shes unfamiliar).
The reason is that since you pay for their service. part of your payments go to the payroll of the employees, such as her.

This is the silliest thought process a person can have. Mega companies employ hundreds and thousands of folks around the country and from around the world. If a person is paying for a service, if they think that much about where a few of their cents on the dollar are going in terms of personnel, that person has way too much free time on their hands.

Heck, I'd wager that if this was the case, folks would NEVER give money to any large company, as there will undoubtedly be murderers, molesters, rapists, and various other human rights violators.

This is the latest in public outrage... people have so little going in their own lives that they manufacture stories and incidents to make themselves feel better and give their lives purpose to rally against. It's been like this from the dawn of time with mobs and various other lynchings and tar and featherings, but now, people got that fancy twitter and Facebook and other media outlets.

On a really side note, I'm surprised the race card players aren't out on this one, or is it that race is trumped by political alignment in today's world, heck, where is the President telling folks she could be his sister or his older daughter?

Skin said,

This is the silliest thought process a person can have. Mega companies employ hundreds and thousands of folks around the country and from around the world. If a person is paying for a service, if they think that much about where a few of their cents on the dollar are going in terms of personnel, that person has way too much free time on their hands.

Heck, I'd wager that if this was the case, folks would NEVER give money to any large company, as there will undoubtedly be murderers, molesters, rapists, and various other human rights violators.

This is the latest in public outrage... people have so little going in their own lives that they manufacture stories and incidents to make themselves feel better and give their lives purpose to rally against. It's been like this from the dawn of time with mobs and various other lynchings and tar and featherings, but now, people got that fancy twitter and Facebook and other media outlets.

On a really side note, I'm surprised the race card players aren't out on this one, or is it that race is trumped by political alignment in today's world, heck, where is the President telling folks she could be his sister or his older daughter?

I could not have said it better myself. Thanks for saving me the time in typing exactly what I was thinking!!! Cheers!

Grown ups boycott things all the time, and most of the time may not even realise it. I also think you fail to realise the difference between and ordinary worker and a public figure on a board of directors for a company that sells themselves on privacy. Again you may or may not agree with the idea it was a poor appointment but not understanding the issue is a whole different kettle of fish.

Depicus said,
Grown ups boycott things all the time, and most of the time may not even realise it.

Sooo.. if we don't agree with the boycott we're either kids or too stupid to know we're boycotting? Seems reasonable, at my age I wouldn't mind being confused with a kid again.
Depicus said,
I also think you fail to realise the difference between and ordinary worker and a public figure on a board of directors for a company that sells themselves on privacy. Again you may or may not agree with the idea it was a poor appointment but not understanding the issue is a whole different kettle of fish

And again, too stupid to know the difference or somehow never heard of her before? May as well connect the dots for us too, show us where DropBox is now an agent for the NSA. Beyond the rhetoric that is. If they enact a new policy where they give all their data to the NSA willingly then I'll be the first one to drop my account. Until then, meh. It's still the same as any other data storage service. And again, do you honestly believe this is something new? Quite a few companies out there with a less than stellar history when it comes to who they deal with.

Max Norris said,

Sooo.. if we don't agree with the boycott we're either kids or too stupid to know we're boycotting? Seems reasonable, at my age I wouldn't mind being confused with a kid again.

Your inference not mine, merely suggesting that is isn't "This is the silliest thought process a person can have..." to boycott something. I don't eat at McDonalds because I don't like the food, I don't buy Man Utd shirts because they are not my team.

Again your inference that she is an agent of the NSA. All I would say is IF the company were to go in that direction she would be more likely to agree than would, say, somebody with a "liberal" background.

Max Norris said,
My browser didn't start making donations to anti-gay groups and my DropBox account didn't start declaring war on other countries. Not too worried about it or going to blow it out of proportion.. quite a few companies with shady dealings, boycott them all and you'll wind up living in a cave.

Great post.

Max Norris said,
My browser didn't start making donations to anti-gay groups and my DropBox account didn't start declaring war on other countries. Not too worried about it or going to blow it out of proportion.. quite a few companies with shady dealings, boycott them all and you'll wind up living in a cave.

Some people would have nothing to do without their tin-foil hats though!

Yep,
REAL glad that I've never had a Dropbox account now also!

Couldn't wait for this dizzy c**t to get out of her office and now I can't wait for Bohner to get out of his, but to put this dizzy broad in here is downright stupid! They obviously just wanted a big name on the board.

Gertjan Van Damme said,
well #### that

first a homophobe and now an imperialist c*nt, i still remember that op-ed in the financial times of her, a brilliant look in how arrogant and deranged washington DC is, all ofcourse with the self-awareness of your typical tumblr SJW, it was so bad it reminded me of this http://youtu.be/qzl3uvkkmmo?t=1m5s

social justice is such a joke thanks to tumblr. those people are crazy.

Well, the price of being a public figure seems to be going up these days. I am feeling a bit ambivalent on this - on one hand it's good that the public can influence organisations nowadays, on the other it's a bit discriminatory to kick people out of organisations based on their personal views or previous work experiences.

Breach said,
... based on their personal views or previous work experiences.

That should be valid for everyone, though perhaps not for high ranking bankers, politicians or bussiness people. Which is kind of sad and a sign of our times :(

Breach said,
Well, the price of being a public figure seems to be going up these days. I am feeling a bit ambivalent on this - on one hand it's good that the public can influence organisations nowadays, on the other it's a bit discriminatory to kick people out of organisations based on their personal views or previous work experiences.

As I have stated before, I am not a fan of boycotts as they tend to hurt people that have no power or ability to change the decision.

However, 'public influence' of organizations has always existed and it is one thing that the free market uses to keep corporations in check. Sadly it is not used more frequently on more important issues.

If an organization or corporation is doing something or adopting policy that consumers disagree with, they have the right to speak out against them, and if they feel necessary boycott them.

A hyperbolic example:
If the CEO of Apple started calling for the murder or groups of people, it would be in the best interest of the company to remove the CEO, as this would affect their business and bottom line. Especially as their customers started speaking out and/or boycotting their products.


Personally, I'm not a fan of C. Rice, but I can respectfully disagree with her without boycotting an institution. Paraphrasing the words of 'House', "Conflict generates better ideas."

Sadly this concept is being lost in the modern political system. Instead of arguing through ideas and creating better ideas from contrasting perspectives, the opposition is being demonized and ignored, leaving the political system stagnant and damaging society.

I understand your point, but the level of dishonesty and lack of integrity this woman continues to demonstrate simply can't be forgiven by many people...and rightly so. IMO she was nothing less than a co-conspirator for a great many things that arguably adversely affected the entire world. Wish I had a shoe to throw.

True, boycotts have always existed. What I meant was that I don't recall CEOs quitting in the last 10 years or more because of outcry over their views on gay rights, former foreign policy, etc.

This move seems so dumb, Rice has nothing to offer Dropbox, she's just in a club of people who waltz between boards of companies without any actual qualification.

Why is Al Gore on the board of Apple? Why is Rice on the Board of Dropbox?

(rhetorical questions)

Atlantico said,
This move seems so dumb, Rice has nothing to offer Dropbox, she's just in a club of people who waltz between boards of companies without any actual qualification.

Why is Al Gore on the board of Apple? Why is Rice on the Board of Dropbox?

(rhetorical questions)

to help apple look for manbearpig :D apparently he's super cereal about helping apple.

Breach said,
Why is anyone on a board? It's usually about connections and influence.

The board of a company elects the CEO and decides on the major direction of a company. It has literally nothing to do with connections and influence.

Atlantico said,
This move seems so dumb, Rice has nothing to offer Dropbox, she's just in a club of people who waltz between boards of companies without any actual qualification.

Why is Al Gore on the board of Apple? Why is Rice on the Board of Dropbox?


(rhetorical questions)


They should have tried to get Hillary Clinton ;)

It does have a lot to do with connections and influence. The board of a company is elected by the owners - the owners themselves can be members of the board. The board is thus the ultimate decision making body - they don't manage the company directly (executives have that task), but their key role is to protect and advance the owners' interests. Some boards emphasize on people with strategic expertise, others on visioners, others on people with good connections on making deals, etc. You don't end up on a board like that - the owners have to trust you and usually, yes, it's a matter of your connections and influence which you're expected to leverage to advance the company.

Atlantico said,
This move seems so dumb, Rice has nothing to offer Dropbox, she's just in a club of people who waltz between boards of companies without any actual qualification.

Why is Al Gore on the board of Apple? Why is Rice on the Board of Dropbox?

(rhetorical questions)

How do you know she doesn't have any qualifications?

"She also served on the board of directors for the Carnegie Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the Chevron Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Rand Corporation, the Transamerica Corporation, and other organizations." from wikipedia

Doli said,

How do you know she doesn't have any qualifications?

"She also served on the board of directors for the Carnegie Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the Chevron Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Rand Corporation, the Transamerica Corporation, and other organizations." from wikipedia

That's exactly my point, that's not qualifications to be a board member of Dropbox. That's just qualifications that she knows how to be a generic board member.

Being an owner of Dropbox or shareholder, one would perhaps be wise to entrust individuals that have actual insight into high-tech on-line cloud-based companies on the board.

Usually this is pretty evident, like an executive from Nike being on the Apple board to give insight and direction into brand marketing or something similar. Rice has nothing. At. All.

Atlantico said,

That's exactly my point, that's not qualifications to be a board member of Dropbox. That's just qualifications that she knows how to be a generic board member.

Being an owner of Dropbox or shareholder, one would perhaps be wise to entrust individuals that have actual insight into high-tech on-line cloud-based companies on the board.

Usually this is pretty evident, like an executive from Nike being on the Apple board to give insight and direction into brand marketing or something similar. Rice has nothing. At. All.

I think the people at Dropbox know a little more than you do when it comes to picking people.

If you have to ask then maybe you need to read up on modern history and world affairs. Whether you agree or not is another point but not understanding why is naive.

Depicus said,
If you have to ask then maybe you need to read up on modern history and world affairs. Whether you agree or not is another point but not understanding why is naive.

I already read. Still don't understand why anyone would care anything about her being on DropBox.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
So what?

Exactly. More left-wing nut jobs with their panties in a bunch over nothing. They try so hard to stifle anyone and everyone they didn't agree with even long after they hold no power. They are nothing but a bunch of thugs.

I cannot for the life of me understand what would be gained from that move. She'll be out within a week is my bet. :)

Audien said,
I cannot for the life of me understand what would be gained from that move. She'll be out within a week is my bet. :)

Agreed. What is next?

Audien said,
I cannot for the life of me understand what would be gained from that move. She'll be out within a week is my bet. :)

Even if she's out within a week, the damage is already done; DropBox has now demonstrated they're more than willing to get cozy with the higher-ups involved with the spying agencies. Given what their whole business is all about, if only people were actually paying attention, it's DropBox itself that would be done with within a week.

That is a completely ignorant statement. Do you realize she doesn't work for those agencies? Good grief, the ignorance of the left is amazing.

Robert Wade said,
That is a completely ignorant statement. Do you realize she doesn't work for those agencies? Good grief, the ignorance of the left is amazing.

She doesn't need to be on those agencies' payroll--it's all about the company she keeps--past and present. You don't think these people aren't still buddy-buddy with each other, and having her on the board isn't going to make it easier for any of the agencies to just get in touch with her to get DropBox to do a quick lookup without waiting for a judge to sign a warrant?

So no one from the White House should ever serve on a tech company board? Seriously? I'd like to know how a one time chief diplomat, puts the privacy of user data at risk, at a tech company? Would there also be an uproar if Hillary Clinton was appointed to the board? I don't think so.

As far as I'm concerned, if Rice's accusers cannot provide evidence that she is a threat Dropbox users' data, these people are guilty of discrimination.

Patmore Douglas said,
This sounds like a pretext for getting rid of a conservative. If it was Barack Obama, everyone would be cheering.

Gimme a break!

Obama is the Chief Spy of them all. If he were appointed, people would go batshit crazy!

Actually, if Obama were appointed on the DropBox board, I'd be questioning their intelligence big time since Obama has never actually run any sort of business in his life. Why bring someone on who is completely clueless about business?

Robert Wade said,
That is a completely ignorant statement. Do you realize she doesn't work for those agencies? Good grief, the ignorance of the left is amazing.

Wow.... everyone is quick to put words in my mouth. Where did I mention anything about her side of politics or the NSA?

I would have the same reaction if they hired Bill Clinton, or any other ex politician. Just a very odd move for a company such as Dropbox.

Please also don't generalise everyone as left or right wing. Australians typically have more of a common sense approach to a wide range of issues without screaming at eachother.

Patmore Douglas said,
So no one from the White House should ever serve on a tech company board? Seriously? I'd like to know how a one time chief diplomat, puts the privacy of user data at risk, at a tech company? Would there also be an uproar if Hillary Clinton was appointed to the board? I don't think so.

I'd object just the same to having Clinton on Dropbox's board. This isn't a right- or left-wing thing, it's having a politician, whose name still carries a huge amount of weight among the spy agencies, law enforcement, and judges at all levels, influence the decision-making process of a small high-tech company that's in the unique position of having access to a large chunk of the public's supposedly private data. If you don't see the conflict of interest, you have a lot more trust in politicians than I do.

And yes, I absolutely believe that people in that unique position, no matter what their political affiliation is, should not be allowed on the board of such a company. It's not like she needs that to make a living (again, ignore which political side she's on, that's entirely irrelevant).

Edited by _dandy_, Apr 11 2014, 7:25pm :

Patmore Douglas said,
As far as I'm concerned, if Rice's accusers cannot provide evidence that she is a threat Dropbox users' data, these people are guilty of discrimination.

If Obama's accusers cannot provide evidence that he is not a natural-born US citizen, these people are guilty of discrimination.

:o