First of two Windows Blue dev milestones reached ahead of August 2013 launch?

Earlier today, leaked screenshots of an alleged update for Windows 8 hit the Internet. Now it appears those screenshots showed up on the same day Microsoft reached the first of two planned development milestones for the next major update for the OS, which has the code name "Windows Blue."

ZDNet.com reports, via unnamed sources, that this first milestone for the next Windows update will just be one of two milestones for the OS before it is launched to the public. The article speculates that Microsoft won't bother with offering developer or consumer preview builds of Windows Blue to the public ahead of its launch, which may happen in August 2013.

As we have reported before, this will be the first such update for Windows under Microsoft's new accelerated release schedule for offering new commercial upgrades for the OS, in a method that is similar to what Apple has done for the past several years with its Mac OS X operating system. While Microsoft has not stated anything publicly about Windows Blue, it has been hiring people for the project on its online careers page.

Windows Blue is expected to have a number of user interfaces changes and improvements along with some possible changes under the hood as well.

Source: ZDNet.com

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Wonderfully written piece of 'my opinion counts, not yours'..........

Now stop trolling, and take out the garbage like your mother told you to do, an hour ago.

Windows Blue/9: Remove all Tablet-related things including Start Screen in order to un-bloat the OS and make it functional/productive, again. Put on a nice, consistent Start Menu like Start8 and update all desktop icons to some newer, modern 2D ones. Sold!

My main problem with New Windows updates are drivers. I still dont even have fully working drivers for my Lenovo Thinkpad E420 Laptop.

The biggest problem is the interaction between desktop and metro apps. If anyone has used Skype for Desktop and Skype for Metro will know what I am talking about. Both apps ring when someone calls. A better option is to make only 1 app as the default - the user installs the two and at or after installation the app asks which to make as the default. Its absolutely ridiculous that there are 2 instances of skype running at the same time and, while you are speaking on 1 app, the other one keeps ringing.

No point in trying to argue on-line with those already in the metro camp. They've either already drunk the kool-aid, or are paid on-line shills for MS marketing dep't.
D.Ford is right in that the architect of this horrendous mistake on MS's part is still entrenched there spreading her Micro-payment app poison. MS should have split the interfaces between Tablet & Desktop - never forced them into 1 OS together.

foonacha said,
No point in trying to argue on-line with those already in the metro camp. They've either already drunk the kool-aid, or are paid on-line shills for MS marketing dep't.

and vice versa.

They really need to take all of the Metro stuff... They don't have to get rid of it. They could just have it like an optional add-on for tablet-based computers. Similar to how Windows Media Center is only intended for Media Center-based computers.

gb8080 said,
No point in developer or consumer preview builds; they were too stubborn to listen last time around.

Very true, although that was the Sinofsky/McNamara era; hopefully MS will go back to more successful habits.

Fritzly said,

Very true, although that was the Sinofsky/McNamara era; hopefully MS will go back to more successful habits.

Julie Larson-Green is still there and she's probably the biggest cancer and reason for the Metro disaster Microsoft is now reeling from -- Sinofsky was more just the exec that took her honey booboo inspired tard tile interface and rammed it through after selling Ballmer on the misguided notion that desktop users would go ape for phone apps on their big desktop screens. ****ing fail.

Fritzly said,

Very true, although that was the Sinofsky/McNamara era; hopefully MS will go back to more successful habits.

It was Sinofsky that got Windows 7 the way it is today, and it's nothing wrong with Windows 8, just needs cleaning up more.

Darrah Ford said,

Julie Larson-Green is still there and she's probably the biggest cancer and reason for the Metro disaster Microsoft is now reeling from -- Sinofsky was more just the exec that took her honey booboo inspired tard tile interface and rammed it through after selling Ballmer on the misguided notion that desktop users would go ape for phone apps on their big desktop screens. ****ing fail.

I couldn't have said it better. "Phone apps on a desktop"

Tony. said,

It was Sinofsky that got Windows 7 the way it is today, and it's nothing wrong with Windows 8, just needs cleaning up more.

So what he did was to polish Vista? Make no mistakes: the vast majority of the improvements we had on W7 were based on what Jim Allchin and the Windows team were able to deliver with Vista.
Besides I was not referring to W7 or W8 ; more to his solely reliance on telemetries and other artificial analysis tools instead of a broader and more comprehensive approach emphasizing the human factor.
As for W8 it does not only need a "clean up" but also, and by far more important, a overhaul of the desktop paradigm because this is the place where, as funny as it is, both lovers and haters of Start Menu spend the majority of the time. Note that with overhaul I do not mean dumbing it down a la Metro apps.

I would rather they first fix their first party apps. They don't have to wait for OS updates for that! Just fix the Xbox entertainment suite please

Can't wait for Windows Blue!
Don't get me wrong. Windows 8 is great. But it feels unpolished and very rough around the edges.

Im hoping it'll be as great good as Windows 7 seemed in comparison to Vista.

I liked Vista, it had lots of great features and I didn't really have many problems with it. It did feel a little unpolished though, Windows 7 came out and took what made Vista good and improved them, took what made Vista bad and fixed them. I hope Windows Blue does the same for Win8.

Darrah Ford said,
If they want Business and Enterprise markets to even look at Windows 8 they'll put the Start menu back. Pronto.

As a business user, all of my applications are pinned to my task bar and most of my work is done from a browser with its own menu structure.

Of course, if you can come up with an actual use case, you might have an argument.

Joshie said,
As a business user, all of my applications are pinned to my task bar and most of my work is done from a browser with its own menu structure.

Of course, if you can come up with an actual use case, you might have an argument.

So then an IT DIrector would be right to ask, if nobody's going to use Metro anyway then WHY BOTHER with Windows8. Thanks for proving my point.

Darrah Ford said,

So then an IT DIrector would be right to ask, if nobody's going to use Metro anyway then WHY BOTHER with Windows8. Thanks for proving my point.


You think that proved your point? Your point was just the necessity of a start menu. By being able to do all of one's work from pinned shortcuts and a browser view, all sorts of interfaces become acceptable. My own workflow could be done entirely from metro if the apps existed therein.

Your apparent obsession with a start menu makes me wonder if you can even answer the following question: can you describe a user interface that you'd find usable that uses neither a start menu nor a task bar?

If you cannot answer that, then you are not a dreamer. Just an addict.

Darrah Ford said,

So then an IT DIrector would be right to ask, if nobody's going to use Metro anyway then WHY BOTHER with Windows8. Thanks for proving my point.

A business user is not going to use a lot of Metro if there are no Metro Apps designed for that interface. It all depends on legacy apps and modern apps. There might be scenarios where a modern app is beneficial and where legacy apps are more productive to a business. Your comments suggest you have never been part of an IT department. Rest assured, Windows 8 is not going to gain a lot of acceptance as companies have only recently started moving to Windows 7 and won't be using Windows 8 anytime before 2016-17. But by that time, we would not have Windows 8 only a different, more improved version. And before you jump to any conclusions, that is how business works. Especially big business.

wolftail said,
Can't wait for Windows Blue!
Don't get me wrong. Windows 8 is great. But it feels unpolished and very rough around the edges.

Agreed.

Darrah Ford said,

So then an IT DIrector would be right to ask, if nobody's going to use Metro anyway then WHY BOTHER with Windows8. Thanks for proving my point.


Wow, you sure took some liberties in interpreting his post...

And as a business user, the start menu is not necessary for the business market by any means...

Darrah Ford said,
If they want Business and Enterprise markets to even look at Windows 8 they'll put the Start menu back. Pronto.

I run a business using Windows 8 desktops and laptops and i can tell you no one here misses the start button.

You really want the start menu back? OK, let me help you out of your misery. Do the following:
1. Right click the Taskbar. Click Toolbars, and then New Toolbar
2.Computer > Local Disc C (or whatever your C drive is labeled) > Program Data > Microsoft > Windows > Start Menu. Click on Start Menu to make it appear in the Folder
3.Click Select Folder and that's it!
The Start menu reimagined

MS had better bring back a decent (NON ****ING JARING) desktop interface, or they are going to fail in the last place they have any sort of market share.

Win Phone == FAIL!

Surface == FAIL!

I really hope they fix the one thing they are good at.

Rage more. It's not going to happen. Get with the program or switch to another OS.

The rest of us are loving the new interface, on tablets and desktop machines!

daniel_rh said,
They only need to polish some details to make it better

true. I've been told win8.5 is a free update for win8 users that will bring a better transition from the desktop to the metro interface.

it will be designed to be closer to the vision Sinofsky had of win8, but didn't have time to deliver before the rtm last August.

Why is Windows Phone and Surface a fail? I see them as fantastic products, and I don't even own a Surface, however I have played with one and they are awesome.

Nah it's just you. You fail to move on with technology.

runningnak3d said,
MS had better bring back a decent (NON ****ING JARING) desktop interface, or they are going to fail in the last place they have any sort of market share.

Win Phone == FAIL!

Surface == FAIL!

I really hope they fix the one thing they are good at.

runningnak3d said,
MS had better bring back a decent (NON ****ING JARING) desktop interface, or they are going to fail in the last place they have any sort of market share.

Win Phone == FAIL!

Surface == FAIL!

I really hope they fix the one thing they are good at.

the desktop is still there genius,and the majority of users never used the start menu. they are not going to put in a start menu because some folk have a tantrum on an internet forum.

runningnak3d said,
MS had better bring back a decent (NON ****ING JARING) desktop interface, or they are going to fail in the last place they have any sort of market share.

Win Phone == FAIL!

Surface == FAIL!

I really hope they fix the one thing they are good at.

At least you tried using big words... But you still spelled "jarring" wrong.

vcfan said,
the desktop is still there genius,and the majority of users never used the start menu.

How do you know "the majority of users never used the start menu?" Because Sinofsky said so? The guy whose very job depended on people buying that in order to push a Metro appstore onto the masses.

Consider the source before blindly accepting as fact, brains.

runningnak3d said,
MS had better bring back a decent (NON ****ING JARING) desktop interface, or they are going to fail in the last place they have any sort of market share.

Win Phone == FAIL!

Surface == FAIL!

I really hope they fix the one thing they are good at.


Is that why the keep selling our of the Surface? Same for some Windows Phone models (which has been gaining market share).

Your post is completely ridiculous.

We get that you don't like Windows 8. But hopefully you'll be able to move on with your life...

runningnak3d said,
MS had better bring back a decent (NON ****ING JARING) desktop interface, or they are going to fail in the last place they have any sort of market share.

Win Phone == FAIL!

Surface == FAIL!

I really hope they fix the one thing they are good at.

You get a gold star for being troll of the night!

runningnak3d said,
MS had better bring back a decent (NON ****ING JARING) desktop interface, or they are going to fail in the last place they have any sort of market share.

Win Phone == FAIL!

Surface == FAIL!

I really hope they fix the one thing they are good at.

What a well written point of view. /s

Darrah Ford said,

How do you know "the majority of users never used the start menu?" Because Sinofsky said so? The guy whose very job depended on people buying that in order to push a Metro appstore onto the masses.

Consider the source before blindly accepting as fact, brains.

...because MS share their telemetry fairly openly. Name another major OS manu who does. They said this during Win7 development (not just 8) which doesn't correlate with your view that it's all about Metro so let's dial back the insults a bit eh?

link8506 said,
true. I've been told win8.5 is a free update for win8 users that will bring a better transition from the desktop to the metro interface.

it will be designed to be closer to the vision Sinofsky had of win8, but didn't have time to deliver before the rtm last August.

I wouldn't be surprised if Windows 8.5 ends up being something that addresses the concerns of enterprise customers given that the push (in terms of marketing etc) so far by Microsoft of Windows 8 to enterprise customers (apart from tablets) has been pretty weak on the ground so far.