Following Windows 8.1 'August Update', a persistent taskbar comes along for the ride

Earlier today, Microsoft released the first in what is said to be a monthly update for Windows 8.1 called the 'August Update'. While the update is only starting to roll out to users via Windows Update, some individuals are reporting a 'persistent taskbar' at the bottom of modern apps that was not present prior to the update.

Prior to the update, you could access the taskbar by moving your mouse to the bottom of the screen in a gesture like motion to have it pull up for easy app switching. Following the update, the taskbar is staying open for some users but it's not a consistent experience. When using the hot corner to switch apps, the taskbar goes away when using the app. It's an inconsistent experience and so far, the documentation with the update does not hint at this functionality.

If you are seeing the taskbar showing up when using modern apps like the .gif above, let us know in the comments below. We have reached out to Microsoft to see if this is intended functionality or if this is a bug that has made its way into a production release for Windows 8.1 and will report back when we get an answer.

Update: To fix the issue, turn on “Animate windows when minimizing and maximizing” in Performance Options; the issue should go away.

Source: @dingl_ | Thanks for the tip @WinObs

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Solution! I was having this problem on Windows Server 2012 R2 and finally after alot of head bashing I found which update was messing with my taskbar, KB2990532. Uninstalled this update and after the restart my taskbar was back to normal!! I even tried installing it again and then the taskbar went persistent again, so my solution, atleast on 2012 R2 is to uninstall KB2990532.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2990532/en-us

When are we going to get a fix so that the taskbar is COMPLETELY hidden when it auto-hides? I am so sick of seeing the top of the taskbar at the bottom of my screen when watching videos, or anything with a dark background.

As far as the Start menu goes, the first thing I do when reinstalling windows 8 is to install classic shell, which is a free program that gives you a customizable windows start menu of your own choosing (XP, Vista, or 7 style) http://www.classicshell.net/

I got the 'persistant taskbar bug'. Tried the 'uncheck / check 'windows animation'. Taskbar disappeared in modern apps, so far so good. But after a while, taskbar also did not show up in desktop mode. Not good.

I got a new problem after updating my windows 8.1 pro with august update, when i start my HP Pavilion 15 n259tx laptop, after login it shows a black background no icons and in modern ui no apps is showing and in taskbar it showing unable to connect to windows services.. when i restart my laptop there is no sign of this problem its login normally and showing everything..

This courtesy of "faikee" on twitter..
So-called "permanent taskbar in metro" in Windows 8.1 Aug Update, not a bug: click on taskbar, it stays, click on empty space, then it hides

Works for me using a mouse. For tablet users I guess a "tap" would do.

I don't do modern apps, I don't do Windows Store so no problemo here. I got the lady in my life a Windows 8.1 touchscreen laptop for the holidays, now if I could only get her to use it,. Guess I should have gotten her that Kindle HD she wanted, but I couldn't see myself working with that. Same with her iphone, although I have updated it a few times, and then ditched the Apple software afterwards. Funny she wants the updates, but not the software to deal with them.

1stkorean • 2 minutes ago


I have discovered The August Update does not allow the use of Alt + Numberpad ASCII Key Combinations in IE-11 or in Chrome. I use these on a daily basis, so I check my laptop which I had not installed the August on yet and the Alt + Numberpad ASCII Key Combos worked fine.

Bit late to the party but I'm noticing it as being most irritating on some Windows Server 2012 R2 boxes that I'm testing the update out on. It has to be a bug... the only reason I say this is if you click the Start button, the task bar persists on the Start Screen, however if I hit the Windows flag key on my keyboard, it doesn't persist on the start screen.. I can think of any reason why you'd want that as 'by design' behavior? Not sure if anyone else gets it the same way..

can someone tell me if this update contains all previous update in one package?

i can't for the life of me find an updated iso (apple make it soooo much easier), anyways....

as I see it:

find a dubious download link of mediafire for the old version of the windows 8 downloader exe

trick it into downloading the windows 8.1 iso

dism mount the iso and inject the two updates

commit the image back into an iso

have a fully patched iso?

or will i find once i have installed my new system there are a lot of updates waiting?

This appears to be linked to the setting Animate windows when minimising and maximising.

Question to ask for those suffering the issue...

Do your applications minimising and maximise to the task bar with animation. Does your Start Screen disappear into the middle of the monitor when you return to the desktop. If the answer to the above is no.

Toggle the setting available from Performance Options. How to get there?

1) Hit start button (windows flag)
2) Type This PC
3) Right Click This PC select properties
4) Click Advanced System Settings
5) On Visual Effect Tab uncheck 'Animate windows when minimising and maximising'
6) Click Apply
7) Check 'Animate windows when minimising and maximising'
8) Click OK (Or Apply and then OK - does the same thing :) )

You should be good to go. Hopefully your windows when min/max now animate, and your Task Bar should be non persistent.

Making no promises this will resolve the issue for everyone - but it has for me on 3 different machines.

Goodluck!

Slight addendum... not sure if in original update, but essentially Task Bar is now autohiding - it does mean in metro/modern/store apps you can now place cursor at bottom and task bar will appear, move away and it disappears.

whodareswins2 said,
This appears to be linked to the setting Animate windows when minimising and maximising.

Question to ask for those suffering the issue...

Do your applications minimising and maximise to the task bar with animation. Does your Start Screen disappear into the middle of the monitor when you return to the desktop. If the answer to the above is no.

Toggle the setting available from Performance Options. How to get there?

1) Hit start button (windows flag)
2) Type This PC
3) Right Click This PC select properties
4) Click Advanced System Settings
5) On Visual Effect Tab uncheck 'Animate windows when minimising and maximising'
6) Click Apply
7) Check 'Animate windows when minimising and maximising'
8) Click OK (Or Apply and then OK - does the same thing :) )

You should be good to go. Hopefully your windows when min/max now animate, and your Task Bar should be non persistent.

Making no promises this will resolve the issue for everyone - but it has for me on 3 different machines.

Goodluck!

Yeah this fixed it for me - thanks! I hope Microsoft fix this because I like running with the window animations off.

Mine was already unchecked, I don't like animated windows, and I experience this task bar bug.
Checking it and then in checking doesn't fix the problem, so I guess I'll have to put up with animated windows untill MS releases a patch, as this method does solve the taskbar bug.

Great catch.. Thank you!! I actually dig the way it works with the animations on. They should still have some sort of working solution for those who prefer the Minimize and Maximize animations off but I can totally deal with it this way. Great solution, Thanx again.

Because KB2975719 is an optional update, I wonder if that explains why some folks are not having issues, because they're only installing critical updates by default.

This update actually caused major headaches for me. I ran it and then got stuck into a infinite boot loop.
I couldn't access my data drive and safe mode refused to work, along with system restore, and refresh. So had to do a full wipe and reinstall of Windows 8.1
For now, I will stay clear of this update, and instead of running it through here, will just do it though Windows Update when it comes there.

Windows 8 itself is a big mistake. Stop being a beta tester of the broken operating system. They've got their beta testers who get paid for it. Stick to Windows 7 - stable and correct before the release of the new OS. Although not the fact that it will be okay. It seems to Microsoft and do not know what they want.
They said they would refund you the Start menu and in the end? You cheated. They decided to hold it for a new Vindovs because it makes no sense to release it for stillborn OS. What would then say "In Windovs 9 we give you the innovative Start menu. And if they are now being released with an update, what would they say in advertising on the new OS?
Looks like Windows 7, Office 2010 and Xbox 360 is the last successful products from this company. Next will only get worse.
No seriously, why it was necessary to break a great OS (7) for the desktop and turn it into this hell? What would then return everything as it was? Seriously, for PC users who do not need ###### Metro user interface is in Vindovs 8.1 is nothing new compared to Vindovs 7 They made it worse. Add to "My Computer" unnecessary folders. Merged into "My Computer" hard drives with drives and plug devices such as flash drives. Disable in the component Framework 3.5, which should be enabled by default. Cut classic game. Excised gadgets. Add smelly active corners and not given the opportunity disable them off completely (upper and lower right corner). Removed Aero. Plus, the entire game on DirectDraw slow as well as some older games do not work correctly. After loading the operating system programm in the tray loaded with a delay (on SSD). No opportunity to work with full Administrator rights, because even if completely disable UAC in the "Security Policy" - to stop working metro applications. That is, I can not see the weather and give my mom play solitaire. Also without full admin rights, some applications need to run it with administrator privileges. Plus, these ###### shield on the labels. No seriously, what the advantage of 8.1 over 7? NO! Everything is bad.

If the taskbar is obscuring full screen app content - which is clearly the case in the "gif" provided in the article - then it is DEFINITELY a BUG. Not a feature.

My Start Screen taskbar has become persistent, instead of hiding when I click or tap anywhere on the Start Screen, even on the All Apps screen. I hope this change is an unintended bug, and not a feature, as I would like to choose whether it is persistent or not.

seeprime said,
My Start Screen taskbar has become persistent, instead of hiding when I click or tap anywhere on the Start Screen, even on the All Apps screen. I hope this change is an unintended bug, and not a feature, as I would like to choose whether it is persistent or not.

I just opened the Netflix app to discover that the taskbar is permanent there also. This sucks!

It's in the way on a number of the apps I use and it partially covers the "All Apps" toggle arrow on the start screen. It was fine before the update. For the love of God please put a full blown start menu in and give users a freakin choice! I'm completely fine with the start screen on 8.1 Update 1. I don't want the taskbar in front of full screen apps that are not designed around it. There needs to be an option to hide it on modern apps only as before. I've supported MS up to this point but now they are pissing ME off. I'm tired of old ladies whining about the start screen but I like it and intend to use it. This forced taskbar wrecks modern apps and gets in the way. What a mess... Sigh.

Thanx to whodareswins2 for finding the issue. I was running with the minimizing and maximizing animation off (have for years since it was an option on 98 I think). Turning the animation back on fixes the issue. I can deal with the animations. Now I feel like a moron for getting so hot. LOL.

System Restore wasn't necessary. You could have just removed it through Control Panel --> Programs and Features --> Installed Updates.

68k said,
System Restore wasn't necessary. You could have just removed it through Control Panel --> Programs and Features --> Installed Updates.

The August Update never showed there for me.

Dot Matrix said,

The August Update never showed there for me.

It does for me, when I go to "Installed Updates" and type "kb2975719" in the search box at the top.

The taskbar should no have been moved over Metro applications or the Start Screen. Period. It's completely intrusive to the UX, it blocks functionality, and it's just simply unwarranted.

This functionality, bug or not, has broken my workflow. I have not been able to use certain Metro apps on my desktop all day thanks to the taskbar showing where it doesn't belong. Those who thought adding the taskbar in Metro would be a good UX fix, should be terminated from Microsoft.

without the update, the taskbar is there if you make the mouse touch the bottom of the screen. then it auto hides if you take the cursor away. are they saying that with the update, the taskbar stays there? that's odd

I just installed the update and it's happening on my laptop as well.

Microsoft cares so little about Metro that they release an update in which the taskbar blocks items from being clicked on the Start Screen. Lots of subtext here.

This is the best solution Microsoft 2014 came up with? :laugh: If it is a bug, it simply shouldn't be there. Bad coding. Sad to see Microsoft going downwards RE quality assurance.

Maybe developers have a bit too much 'fun' at Microsoft (2014). Nadella probably doesn't check through code like Gates did.

I found that one thing changed is when to close metro apps, it goes to start screen not desktop mode. Before today's update, even though I do setting to go start screen when to close apps, it goes to desktop mode not start screen.

I have the persistent taskbar. While at first I thought it was cool, I wonder really what sense does it make to have it on the start screen? You just end up with a jumbled mess of 2 ways to launch applications. I think MS has no idea what they are doing now.

Appears to be a bug affecting a small number of users, and the only way you can "disable" the task bar is to set it to auto hide (right click on taskbar and select "Properties").

Who approves this stuff at Microsoft? Did no one really notice the taskbar overlapping the Metro horizontal scroll bar? It's comical how bad this is and yet another reason to stay away from the Metro UI in Windows 8.

I realy don't get how this is a reason to stay away from the Modern UI. Anyway, if you have read the comments, you should know that not even close to everyone sees this and just gets the regular behavior. If Microsoft didn't get this "bug" - as far as we know, it's a bug - they couldn't fix it, no reason to blaim them.

Like other have said it does feel more like a bug than a feature given that UI elements don't get pushed above the taskbar, but instead get covered up by the taskbar.

Glad to see the persistent Task Bar. However, it will be interesting to see how Windows-9 is going to handle the Task Bar and Start Menu. Tablets are not the only form factor out there--not by a long shot. Laptops and Desktops deserve an equally competent and usable UI. Hopefully, there will be a user selectable choice of UI in Windows-9. Microsoft seems to have forgotten an important situation (oversimplified)--tables are for recreation, laptops and desktops are for work.

That's the role of an iPad, not a tablet running Windows 8.1. Why does it really have to be so divided between the purpose of entertainment and leisure device versus productivity mode from traditional devices? There's no reason to have a device limited in the sense how iPad is. In fact the whole purpose of one operating system spanning into all sorts of devices of all screen sizes is to remove the barriers of using them for specific needs only, while practically whichever device you use you can get the same job done in a convergent manner.

My Surface is a "tablet" but I type long documents in Word, use Excel for some pretty complicated spreadsheets, use Photoshop and Lightroom, InDesign, and even do a little bit of coding on it.

But with that said, I do it all in the "desktop" environment, with a "metro" app snapped to the side on occasion.

PotatoAlchemist said,
That's the role of an iPad, not a tablet running Windows 8.1. Why does it really have to be so divided between the purpose of entertainment and leisure device versus productivity mode from traditional devices? There's no reason to have a device limited in the sense how iPad is. In fact the whole purpose of one operating system spanning into all sorts of devices of all screen sizes is to remove the barriers of using them for specific needs only, while practically whichever device you use you can get the same job done in a convergent manner.

it doesn't have to be so divided. Only people that make it in issue because they themselves don't like it purposely make it an issue. It's could spreading FUD.

How hard is it, for someone who can produce the problem, to present clear instructions on how to reproduce it?

Seriously, step by step instructions. Pretend I can't read your mind. Go.

PUC_Snakeman said,
How hard is it, for someone who can produce the problem, to present clear instructions on how to reproduce it?

Seriously, step by step instructions. Pretend I can't read your mind. Go.

Mine sticks after clicking into the Start Screen from the desktop.

PUC_Snakeman said,
How hard is it, for someone who can produce the problem, to present clear instructions on how to reproduce it?

Seriously, step by step instructions. Pretend I can't read your mind. Go.

It's not consistently reproducible. It occurs (for me) most often when I switch back to the start screen with the start button as Dot Matrix mentioned. I've had it happen when an app crashed back to the start screen, too.

I see it, only if I use the keyboard to navigate around in the home screen view when first opening it. It's not there otherwise.

It's definitely a bug - if it wasn't, then it would be consistent across the board and would probably be documented as part of the update.

I still can't get over the fact what a mess Windows 8 is. Those desktop icons look terrible with the rest. No to mention having a transparent taskbar without blur effect is just a visibility disaster.

It actually only sticks for me if I mouse down to show the taskbar and click on it, after clicking in the Start screen area or in a modern app, the taskbar hides again :p

Happens for me on my desktop. I LOVE it.

Thank you for this change Microsoft and keep up the good work, I like the new direction you're taking for us power users who love the desktop.

I now have more faith that Windows Threshold will be solid if this is any indication.

IF this is a bug, then please at least make it an option rather than wholesale disabling it.

I noticed it happening on my XPS13. If you have the Citrix Receiver installed, killing the connection center seems to stop the behavior.

This looks like a bug since the taskbar is covering up part of the application rather than the application sitting on top of the taskbar.

This looks like a bug... I'm not seeing this issue at all with the latest update, task bar uses auto-hide when in start screen and modern apps as it did before.

I think this is a bug. It's done it to me on occasion since the Spring update. I also get an issue where the modern task switcher/start button drawer gets "jammed" and won't open.

taskbar automatically hide when I open metro app
I have noticed something not sure if its new if i enabled store apps on taskbar then switched to metro app I can access taskbar by moving my mouse down to the bottom side

subcld said,
I have noticed something not sure if its new if i enabled store apps on taskbar then switched to metro app I can access taskbar by moving my mouse down to the bottom side

That's not new. Yes, It does that when "show windows store apps on the taskbar" is enabled.

I am definitely not experiencing this. I tried a bunch of things to get the task bar to stick, and it never did. It behaved consistently and exactly as expected. Either there's an option somewhere or something I'm missing, or it's just a weird glitch on some installs...

Ugly, intrusive, and unwarranted. No wonder people hate Windows 8. Now how are users supposed to click on the things hiding behind it?

NIce try at spinning it, but people dislike Windows 8 for many other reasons and finally Microsoft is listening and putting some common sense BACK into Windows.

Brado said,
putting some common sense BACK into Windows.

And that included a taskbar that appears over clickable elements. Yeah, that makes ALOT of sense.

Brado said,
NIce try at spinning it, but people dislike Windows 8 for many other reasons and finally Microsoft is listening and putting some common sense BACK into Windows.

With a half-assed change that breaks Modern UI apps that might be using that area for clickable stuff? Yeah... Half-assing stuff is always considered the good way to do things.

Dot Matrix said,
Ugly, intrusive, and unwarranted. No wonder people hate Windows 8. Now how are users supposed to click on the things hiding behind it?

It's most likely a bug.

FYI, at least on my machine. I have to move my mouse to the very bottom and move back and forth a few times for it to pop up. Then if I move out of the zone, it pops back down. I didn't have any issues with using the lower controls(my test app was the mail app, clicked on it's "..." bar to do things like sync. Never accidentally brought up the task bar. I'll check on my Venue 8 Pro when I get home. It might not play as nice as my desktop.

NXTwoThou said,
FYI, at least on my machine. I have to move my mouse to the very bottom and move back and forth a few times for it to pop up. Then if I move out of the zone, it pops back down. I didn't have any issues with using the lower controls(my test app was the mail app, clicked on it's "..." bar to do things like sync. Never accidentally brought up the task bar. I'll check on my Venue 8 Pro when I get home. It might not play as nice as my desktop.

The taskbar sticks on my desktop after clicking into the Start Screen from my desktop. I otherwise have the taskbar showing Metro apps disabled.

Yuk. It's not sticky on mine. Guess I'm lucky. No, wait, not totally lucky. I'm using Catatylst RC-July9 for my video driver and I've gotten 3 hard locks so far this afternoon and several error reports from their monitoring program.

I wonder if I haven't experienced the persistent bar because the catalyst control center monitoring program crashes when windows tries to pull the taskbar forward.

Dot Matrix said,
Ugly, intrusive, and unwarranted. No wonder people hate Windows 8. Now how are users supposed to click on the things hiding behind it?

Aww your coming around Dot.

Oh wow there's even update for Zune Software in the optional updates... I though Zune was long pronounced dead...???

Its not new, atleast for me. I have been using it since the Update 1.

It appears persistent when you switch to a Modern-UI app from desktop using taskbar.

It didn't work for me either until I scrolled up to the "Metro Start Screen" as my default is the App View, after doing that it is showing.

Windows8Guy said,
Its not new, atleast for me. I have been using it since the Update 1.

It appears persistent when you switch to a Modern-UI app from desktop using taskbar.

Not for me. Mouse away from it, and it always hides on metro apps. You have to mouse down to the bottom (and move back and forth sometimes) to get it to re-appear.

pmbAustin said,

Not for me. Mouse away from it, and it always hides on metro apps. You have to mouse down to the bottom (and move back and forth sometimes) to get it to re-appear.

That actually took some trial and error for me. It was actually mousing down to the bottom, then mousing down further would show the taskbar...

Now that I'm used to that, I prefer that to this new method persistant taskbar.

I've experience the same issue as well even before the update. If I remembered it correctly, I just restarted the system and it fixed the issue. :)

Not as great as giving us back a real Start Menu would be. Everyone wants one, making us wait 'til Windows 9 just so it can be a marketing bulletpoint is a mistake, IMHO.

Brado said,
Not as great as giving us back a real Start Menu would be. Everyone wants one, making us wait 'til Windows 9 just so it can be a marketing bulletpoint is a mistake, IMHO.

Good Point, but this will still make it easier to use on a tablet.. This will make it a lot better for multitasking.

Brado said,
Not as great as giving us back a real Start Menu would be. Everyone wants one, making us wait 'til Windows 9 just so it can be a marketing bulletpoint is a mistake, IMHO.

Not everyone is afraid of change...

Brado said,
Not as great as giving us back a real Start Menu would be. Everyone wants one, making us wait 'til Windows 9 just so it can be a marketing bulletpoint is a mistake, IMHO.

No, not everyone.

M_Lyons10 said,

Not everyone is afraid of change...

Not everyone wants a change and IMO the majority of the older users (less savvy users) don't want this

Brado said,
Not as great as giving us back a real Start Menu would be. Everyone wants one, making us wait 'til Windows 9 just so it can be a marketing bulletpoint is a mistake, IMHO.

I dont want it back =). I like my personalized start screen much better and I use a desktop. BUT, I think users should have a choice. I want the choice back =).

I actually originally imagined the taskbar always being present even on tablets. One-tap instant app-switching would be awesome. I've tried to get my Android phone to have a taskbar but apparently it's not something that an app can do. SystemUI iteself would need to be modified. Possibly an Xposed module but none exist and I don't have the time to make one.

M_Lyons10 said,

Not everyone is afraid of change...


Isn' t this quote old enough? "Change" is not the issue, in general terms btw, it js what this change consists of that make the difference.... Next Monday you will receive a promotion and a pay raise.... or you will be laid off. Both are a "change", aren't they?

Adam1V said,

Not everyone wants a change and IMO the majority of the older users (less savvy users) don't want this


Right. Let's keep the Start screen then!

:p

Adam1V said,

Not everyone wants a change and IMO the majority of the older users (less savvy users) don't want this


Mostly because the techy people they probably know told them they didn't.

Brado said,
Not as great as giving us back a real Start Menu would be. Everyone wants one, making us wait 'til Windows 9 just so it can be a marketing bulletpoint is a mistake, IMHO.

Thanks for telling me what I want in my OS!!!

fusi0n said,
This is actually a great feature, for both Desktop and Tablets.

Desktops maybe but certainly not on Tablets!!!

Adam1V said,

Not everyone wants a change and IMO the majority of the older users (less savvy users) don't want this

Hey, Kiddo. Speaking for the "older generation" I can't believe just how chicken sh*t scared of change you whiners are. You remind me of the hand wringers who told us the mouse and GUI was rubbish and would never catch on. Where are they now? You should find 'em because that's where you'll be in 5 years. Forgotten. Move on. Keep up. Or get left behind.

Brado said,
Not as great as giving us back a real Start Menu would be. Everyone wants one, making us wait 'til Windows 9 just so it can be a marketing bulletpoint is a mistake, IMHO.

I don't get it? I created a toolbar for:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
and docked it to the taskbar, there your Start Menu both at W7 & 8...
https://onedrive.live.com/redi...;v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

Brado said,
Not as great as giving us back a real Start Menu would be. Everyone wants one, making us wait 'til Windows 9 just so it can be a marketing bulletpoint is a mistake, IMHO.

i dont want a start menu, i never found a use for it, im happy with how things are

I agree. I've always said the thing I didn't like about modern apps that I still would like to be able to see the task bar... I shouldn't need to swipe the charms to see things like time, network status, battery level etc. I've ended up using the desktop more often on my Surface RT just for this reason. The only apps that should be completely full screen are things like video and maybe games. Otherwise, an option to set a persistent taskbar would be awesome!

Brado said,
Not as great as giving us back a real Start Menu would be. Everyone wants one, making us wait 'til Windows 9 just so it can be a marketing bulletpoint is a mistake, IMHO.

Apparently not...

Adam1V said,

Not everyone wants a change and IMO the majority of the older users (less savvy users) don't want this

Speak fer yerself, John! This old geezer woman isn't afraid of change when it makes things better. That said, change for the sake of change is another story altogether.

Although I've gotten used to Windows 8.0 and then Windows 8.1, I still wouldn't mind having the start menu back. Doing away with the start button is a perfect example of change for the sake of change.