From the Forums: Windows 8 feature - Boot to desktop

Tablet users probably love the new interface Microsoft created for Windows 8, but if you're using a laptop or desktop with mouse and keyboard, it could be quite frustrating to boot directly to the new Start screen. Some members of our forums probably felt the same way and began looking for a solution to their problem. In a recent forum post, Neowin member 'Fred 69' has found a way to boot directly to the desktop, without using any third party app. It's a built in Windows feature, although it's not an obvious one.

The feature is hidden somewhere between the folder options. All you have to do is to go to options in any Explorer window, choose the 'view' tab and click on 'Restore previous folder windows at log-on'.

The system will boot to the desktop at startup, but only if you leave an explorer window open at shutdown. It's still a good way if you don't want to use special software, such as Stardock's Start8.

In the same forum thread, user 'warwagon' shows that you can also copy the show desktop shortcut from a Windows XP installation and place it in the startup folder of the start menu. However it will boot to the new start screen first and after a few seconds the desktop will appear. You can also use his shell script, which he demonstrates in his post.

In case you missed it, there are other 'projects' Neowin members are engaged in to customize the Windows 8 experience to their (and our) needs. If you don't like the new ribbon explorer for example, you could use Immersive Explorer, created by 'link8506'. If you want Metro icons on the superbar, check out Metro2 by 'zainadeel'. Another project is a Windows 8 theme for Steam.

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windows 8 its such an usability mess, a forced and closed enviroment it even makes ubuntu unity more useful and pleasent (which its a mess too)...

Seriously they will realize how wrong it is and the backlash from users.

Changes its good when you dont force people to use it, windows used to be best and more customizable experience, i dont like superbar in windows 7 no problem i can use the old taskbar, dont like new start menu, have an option to use the old classic one (in xp)...

previously windows changes its not forced and have an option to revert to more known experience

Really?? The whole article just for a quite useless "trick" which actually doesn't really defaults to desktop if you haven't left an explorer window open prior to rebooting. I wish we could rate the articles and authors on neowin.

I don't like W8 but i am trying to invest some effort into learning how to cope with it.
rather than turning my back on it and saying i'm not gonna use it like a baby etc..
Chances are i will get W8 machines that need repair or people asking me how to change the start screen so its(this story) good info to know..
Kinda like how some people may not like what they use but have to use it
because of the company they work for insists etc, you then have to find a way to cope with what you got and what your options are. Hence the need for info in this story etc

But why on earth do people insist on flooding into topics like this to complain about people making changes to windows 8 is beyond me.. some one is butt-hurt
I guess it's not possible to enjoy Windows 8 if some guy somewhere doesn't like it lol
In order to achieve satisfaction you have to seek at that guy and make sure he knows he's so wrong bla blah blah and then the Windows 8 sun will rise and we will all live happily ever after right ?

I am Not PCyr said,
I don't like W8 but i am trying to invest some effort into learning how to cope with it.
rather than turning my back on it and saying i'm not gonna use it like a baby etc..
Chances are i will get W8 machines that need repair or people asking me how to change the start screen so its(this story) good info to know..
Kinda like how some people may not like what they use but have to use it
because of the company they work for insists etc, you then have to find a way to cope with what you got and what your options are. Hence the need for info in this story etc

But why on earth do people insist on flooding into topics like this to complain about people making changes to windows 8 is beyond me.. some one is butt-hurt
I guess it's not possible to enjoy Windows 8 if some guy somewhere doesn't like it lol
In order to achieve satisfaction you have to seek at that guy and make sure he knows he's so wrong bla blah blah and then the Windows 8 sun will rise and we will all live happily ever after right ?

Yes. I have to then take a GUN and beat him with it until he realizes that Steve Ballmer is god, and Microsoft ****s gold and rainbows. The quicker you assimilate yourself, the better. Don't make us do it for you.

One workaround for something that should have been available natively in Windows-8. I'm sure that other workarounds, or a third-party developer, or SP-1 will restore the Windows-7 look and feel to Windows-8 for laptop and desktop users.

Oh hey, I made it to the front page
I agree with the previous comments regarding changing Windows 8 being stupid yadda yadda. I love all the new features in Windows 8 and have no beef with the start screen, doesn't mean others shouldn't get a choice.

I found out about this accidentally as these are some settings I always change on a fresh install - such as Launch folders in a separate process. I like booting to my explorer window of the last TV show I was watching so I can resume straight away

djpailo said,
Who cares if you have to press a button. It's still faster booting up than Windows 7.

I've not used any programs to accurately measure the boot speed of both but I'm not really noticing win8 being that much faster the win7 at start-up. (using SSDs for both) Now resume from sleep, it's unbelievable how fast win8 reconnects my laptop's wireless connection.

Okay. So here's a simple question for you, probably something that someone hasn't thought through yet and how to get around it now that we're all being forced into the 'metro' interface ...

Where I work, we deploy quite a few 'kiosk' set ups. That means no access to the Start menu whatosever and limit what the kiosk can do through shortcuts on the desktop. If Microsoft is so hell bent on forcing everybody into this new desktop environment, how do I get around it if the Start menu is disabled, especially through group policy? I see Win8 being a big issue for set ups like these ...

With the overwhelming level of ignorance in the coverage of Windows 8, of course people would be surprised to see that there are ways to bypass the Start Screen.

There are several ways to bypass the Start Screen built in, from policy level to task scheduler and even changes to the shell as a more dramatic way around the Start Screen.

It is a shame this is the best Neowin and other sites are throwing out as an answer to a simplistic problem.

How often to you turn off your smartphone? How often do you turn off your tablet? How often do you turn off your laptop? How often do you turn off your desktop?

All this focus on booting something you never turn off is just INSANE!

sure and guess what your comments says to me ?

ohh i dunno maybe the fact that one of the first things people use to defend windows 8 is the fast start up times compared to windows 7. So thanks for pointing out that MAJOR improvement is effectively useless lol


Funny how so many people try and defend Windows 8 but wind up making it look worse lol

I am Not PCyr said,
sure and guess what your comments says to me ?

ohh i dunno maybe the fact that one of the first things people use to defend windows 8 is the fast start up times compared to windows 7. So thanks for pointing out that MAJOR improvement is effectively useless lol


Funny how so many people try and defend Windows 8 but wind up making it look worse lol

Funny how so many people cry about Windows 8 when they are not forced to even use it, grow up.

I don't use it whats your point ?
And does growing up involve formulating thoughtful comments ?
Becasue if you compare what i said and what you said who needs to grow up ?
Rather than contributing anything remotely useful you spent your opportunity
here skirting on the edge of insulting me rather than coming up with a constructive response to the OP's question / comment.
Anyone with a half a brain knows that is the go to tactic for kids when they are OWNED and have nothing to say !
Change the topic and start calling people names like a baby lol

I am Not PCyr said,
sure and guess what your comments says to me ?

ohh i dunno maybe the fact that one of the first things people use to defend windows 8 is the fast start up times compared to windows 7. So thanks for pointing out that MAJOR improvement is effectively useless lol


Funny how so many people try and defend Windows 8 but wind up making it look worse lol


LOL USELESS LOL THAT WAS FUNNY.

Get over yourself. Don't buy or pirate Winders 8 if it ****es you off that much. Or better yet, start using some linux/unix distribution or a Mac, and then come back and tell us how superior it is to anything Microsoft ever released.

Conditioning. Slaves. You WILL adjust to M$ demands and for those that baulk for choice, unpaid useful idiots will criticize your defiance. This has nothing do with improvements for the user and everything to do with forcing a new model on the world for long term goals. They couldn't give a **** what people here say, 99% will just deal with it....unless there is a real choice. Thankfully, we'll have more than one evil corporation to choose from soon! Suckers.

Hahaiah said,
Conditioning. Slaves. You WILL adjust to M$ demands and for those that baulk for choice, unpaid useful idiots will criticize your defiance. This has nothing do with improvements for the user and everything to do with forcing a new model on the world for long term goals. They couldn't give a **** what people here say, 99% will just deal with it....unless there is a real choice. Thankfully, we'll have more than one evil corporation to choose from soon! Suckers.

What is sad, is you are stupid enough to believe there are NO other options, when there are many options.

You can even replace the freaking shell in Windows if you want, replacing the Start Screen and Explorer.

Sorry that you are so easily suckered by the idiots that tell you MS is forcing people to do something.

Sorry my friend, but the VAST majority of users never so much as change their wallpaper, much less anything else and M$ knows it. I made it a point to mention they don't worry about people here because you are among the knowledgeable who do have the ability to use something else, now ask you're mom to try Linux, we know how that will go.

Ask yourself why would they make it so difficult to change anything for that matter? Because they want to make it difficult to NOT do what they want you to. When you look at it from these two standpoints, things make a lot more sense.

Hahaiah said,
.....

My mom does use linux.
She just clicks the funny little dog chasing its tail, instead of the blue e.

Now that I've had her try windows 8 modern UI, she tells me, WHY DIDN'T Microsoft Make it THIS EASY to begin with.

Hahaiah said,
Conditioning. Slaves. You WILL adjust to M$ demands and for those that baulk for choice, unpaid useful idiots will criticize your defiance. This has nothing do with improvements for the user and everything to do with forcing a new model on the world for long term goals. They couldn't give a **** what people here say, 99% will just deal with it....unless there is a real choice. Thankfully, we'll have more than one evil corporation to choose from soon! Suckers.

It goes both ways, you know.
Just because you hated it does not mean that everyone should. There are people who find the Start Screen better than the old Start Menu. Also, 67.3256% don't believe you.

deadonthefloor said,

My mom does use linux.
She just clicks the funny little dog chasing its tail, instead of the blue e.

IT IS THIS EASY. Your mom just clicks the litte dog chaising its tail from the START SCREEN. it then OPENS UP. She then presses the WINDOWS KEY AGAIN to click a small BUTTON that then again OPENS UP. My 79 year old grandfather loves windows 8 as he can hardly use a mouse. So according to this your saying your mom has less common sense or movement than an 80 year old?

Now that I've had her try windows 8 modern UI, she tells me, WHY DIDN'T Microsoft Make it THIS EASY to begin with.

reminds me of the win95 era. but...but... im sticking to dos. lol.

for the people that haven't figured it out yet, windows = winrt and modern UI. win32 is dead. its there to help with the transition,but it will be gone next release. its old,outdated technology. the api is a complete joke these days.

you can boot to desktop all you want, or waste your time with other band aids, but id suggest you take that time instead and transition to some other OS because you're fighting a losing battle.

vcfan said,
reminds me of the win95 era. but...but... im sticking to dos. lol.

for the people that haven't figured it out yet, windows = winrt and modern UI. win32 is dead. its there to help with the transition,but it will be gone next release. its old,outdated technology. the api is a complete joke these days.

you can boot to desktop all you want, or waste your time with other band aids, but id suggest you take that time instead and transition to some other OS because you're fighting a losing battle.

Win32 will NOT be gone in the next release, you'd break virtually every legacy application out there, and Win32 is well guess what how windows works, the whole message queue is sent through Win32 and well if you dig deep guess what WinRT sends guess what Win32 messages to the message queue! *gasp* you take out win32 you broke all of windows... WinRT is not "the future of windows" it's just a front end built ontop of Win32 when you look deep into how they did it. We aren't going to a single app at once model, it would spell death for windows in the corporate world, and guess where most of their money is

neufuse said,

Win32 will NOT be gone in the next release, you'd break virtually every legacy application out there, and Win32 is well guess what how windows works, the whole message queue is sent through Win32 and well if you dig deep guess what WinRT sends guess what Win32 messages to the message queue! *gasp* you take out win32 you broke all of windows... WinRT is not "the future of windows" it's just a front end built ontop of Win32 when you look deep into how they did it. We aren't going to a single app at once model, it would spell death for windows in the corporate world, and guess where most of their money is

I should clarify, what I meant was ,the whole desktop environment thing will be gone. older win32 apps could probably still run in virtualization mode,but it would be a mode that's not sitting there on the start screen like the desktop tile is.

and about winrt being a front end on top of win32,thats partially true. yes some winrt api is using win32 api calls,but not all,and this is a temporary solution until the winrt api is complete.

neufuse said,

Win32 will NOT be gone in the next release, you'd break virtually every legacy application out there, and Win32 is well guess what how windows works, the whole message queue is sent through Win32 and well if you dig deep guess what WinRT sends guess what Win32 messages to the message queue! *gasp* you take out win32 you broke all of windows... WinRT is not "the future of windows" it's just a front end built ontop of Win32 when you look deep into how they did it. We aren't going to a single app at once model, it would spell death for windows in the corporate world, and guess where most of their money is

Win32 as a development language is being replaced, but not just by WinRT, there is also .NET (WPF) and HTML5 that is being promoted by Microsoft at the Application Framework level. These and other mixes of complimentary frameworks that can work with Win32 are the future of programming.

However, you are correct that Win32 will NOT be leaving Windows anytime soon if ever, as Microsoft still supports DOS and Win16 (If even through the VM/HyperV), and WIn32 will continue to be supported as long as Windows is around as a native subsystem or as a separated VM in the future.

Win32 programming is a good object based model, but really old when compared to new OO and MVVM development. (Silverlight,WPF,HTML5,WinRT,etc)

With a good MVVM development tool, like Blend, a non-programmer can literally deliver a fully functional application, something that is not possible with Win32, even with a brilliant development environment.

PS WinRT is built on Win32 in a 'way', but it is not dependent on Win32 due to the way subsystems work in NT and the layering of frameworks. Silverlight technically uses Win32 as well, but it can run without Win32, see WP7 or OS X for examples.

The Win32 framework is different from the Win32 subsystem and these are too often confused. However, technically, neither are necessary for Windows NT, as it is subsystem agnostic, and framework agnostic.

With Win32 being the 'default/main' subsystem used for Windows NT, it gains responsibilities that it is NOT NEEDED, but being the main subsystem becomes responsible for display, etc. (See SUA for a the BSD interface and UNIX subsystem that run on NT without Win32 - They do end up send some interop to WIn32, but that is only because it is the OS default subsystem.)

So now it'll take 3 seconds extra before you shut down - fiddling around, clicking to find the explorer window on the taskbar, etc.. - instead of 1 second of work after you boot to the Start Screen. Marvellous. Talk about a time-saver.

Get over it, peeps. Metro and the Start screen are here to stay. Better get used to them both.

CasualViking said,
So now it'll take 3 seconds extra before you shut down - fiddling around...

How hard is it to ctrl-alt-del and shut down?

Raa said,

How hard is it to ctrl-alt-del and shut down?

The point is. It will take time for you to remember to always leave an Explorer window before shutting down. That is much less compared to just remember to press Enter after logging in. Heck you can just hold down the Enter key after putting your username and password.

Again, people are flooding the comments with pro-Metro sentiment stating that we shouldn't, and are therefore, not allowed to skip the start screen. Could you please find something else to complain about, like, well, how inconsistent everything looks?

Lirodon said,
Again, people are flooding the comments with pro-Metro sentiment stating that we shouldn't, and are therefore, not allowed to skip the start screen. Could you please find something else to complain about, like, well, how inconsistent everything looks?

Because this dance is as silly as trying to find ways to boot directly to DOS in Windows 98. Not sure if people tried that, but with Windows 8, it's pretty clear that the new Modern UX is the way forward for Microsoft.

agreed it gets tiring seeing the fanboys bend over backwards with trying
to tell people how they are suppose to use their OS.

Booting to DOS is a ridiculous comparison, is that the best you could come up with ?

Who are the people provoking the windows 8 haters ?
Its obvious who are the complainers and whiners.
You Fanboys can't leave it alone you insist on bitching and moaning
and then accuse everyone else of that ..hilarious and hypocritical !

A lot of people have issues with Windows 8 and strangely the cheerleaders
bend over backwards to attack and belittle the people who decide to try and make it work for them how they like. I will remind you guys of the constant
"have you even tried it ?" comments.
If your gonna be so Pro Win 8 you would think the fanboys would be encouraging people to use the OS (even with modifications) rather than
diving on them like vultures and demanding they go back to windows 7.

Congrats guys you sure are making your point lol
I don;t have to do anything to make Microsoft Cheerleaders look bad
because you guys are doing an absolutely brilliant job of it all on your own LOL

Dot Matrix said,

Because this dance is as silly as trying to find ways to boot directly to DOS in Windows 98. Not sure if people tried that, but with Windows 8, it's pretty clear that the new Modern UX is the way forward for Microsoft.

No, that situation is not the same at all, first you can boot directly into DOS, it was called simply not launching Windows 98 after DOS loaded, because it ran overtop of DOS, they were two completely separate Operating Systems.

It may be the way forward for Microsoft, but on the desktop it's forward off a cliff.

JaredFrost said,

No, that situation is not the same at all, first you can boot directly into DOS, it was called simply not launching Windows 98 after DOS loaded, because it ran overtop of DOS, they were two completely separate Operating Systems.

It may be the way forward for Microsoft, but on the desktop it's forward off a cliff.

Ok, fine, Windows XP then. And, yes, it is the same type of situation. Modern is now running on top of the desktop, similar to how the GUI ran on top of DOS.

Dot Matrix said,

Ok, fine, Windows XP then. And, yes, it is the same type of situation. Modern is now running on top of the desktop, similar to how the GUI ran on top of DOS.

So you're saying the Desktop is a real OS and Modern Bob is just the UI layer over top.

Toysoldier said,

Feel better after that little rant? The irony in your little hissy fit comment makes me smile.


Your comment only serves to prove his point, tbh.

This is fine and dandy for some, but the issue I have on CP is somewhat different.

I used "control userpasswords2" to disable logon prompt.

Unfortunate side effect is that Metro isn't clickable. I have to log off and log on.

I hope that's fixed in the RTM version.

I would find it way more annoying having to remember to open an explorer window or leave one open at all times than to just click the desktop tile on the start screen when Windows boots.

The hysteria over the start screen has reached new levels of stupidity. It's one thing to say you won't make much use of the new start screen, but to be so offended by it that you go through crap like this to avoid it is the height of stupidity.

Not sure why this is a big deal. The Start screen is a hub to your PC, and upon startup, take .5 seconds to hit "enter" to show the desktop. Far shorter than any of these tools take.

Dot Matrix said,
Not sure why this is a big deal. The Start screen is a hub to your PC, and upon startup, take .5 seconds to hit "enter" to show the desktop. Far shorter than any of these tools take.

and i don't think you ever will..
pretty obvious by this point lol

why even reply to your question ? Looking for an argument or do you really want to know the answer ?

Feature? Surely that defines misleading title?
Besides, there are a million ways to do this. As people above noted, there's a reg setting and the shortcut trick (although copying show desktop from xp is unnecessary, just make a blank txt file and rename it .bat or .cmd and put it in startup, and it'll pop a cmd window on logon).

reactionary007 said,
Worst tip ever!

Then how about you post some and we'll say the same?
The tip suits some people's needs...

After trying the previews I wanted this. Having RTM for 4-days now, I kind of like "my" Start Page. After I get in Desktop Environment and get busy I rarely see it except to take a Modern App (game) break or read the news.

Still curious as to why this is a big deal aside from "just because". I mean it's just more convenient.. when you log in, whats the first thing you're going to do? Start a program (and never mind the information it gives without doing anything at all) or admire the wallpaper? Not that I actually care how anyone else uses there computer, I'm all for tweaking things out, just curious.

ROFL! Leave an explorer window open on shutdown... That is literally the daftest idea I've heard.

n_K said,
ROFL! Leave an explorer window open on shutdown... That is literally the daftest idea I've heard.

To HAVE to do it, to make this work, then yes, it is daft (and that is being polite about it), but I actually always set this option anyway.

It's great for when you are working on a project and are using the resources from various folders, some stored locally, some in other locations on the network. Need to restart? No problem, you will find everything as you left it. Have to leave for an extended period of time, and have trouble remembering where everything you were working with is? Again, not a problem.

It's a very useful feature for me personally.

n_K said,
ROFL! Leave an explorer window open on shutdown... That is literally the daftest idea I've heard.

Forcing the change from one interface to another without any warning is the daftest idea i've ever heard...

DARKFiB3R said,

To HAVE to do it, to make this work, then yes, it is daft (and that is being polite about it), but I actually always set this option anyway.


Yes, I love that option. I just wish Explorer would always have this data saved rather than just saving it when the computer shutsdown, it would be handy if the same folder could be opened again after a bluescreen or power outage.

Another way to do the same thing as above is this...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"Shell"="explorer.exe /select,explorer.exe"

Ace said,
Another way to do the same thing as above is this...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"Shell"="explorer.exe /select,explorer.exe"


I did this, and it worked. Also from the forums!

"I don't understand why people even installed it if all they are going to do is find a way to hack around in it. Keep 7, or XP."

Because of the many "under the hood" improvements

exotoxic said,
"I don't understand why people even installed it if all they are going to do is find a way to hack around in it. Keep 7, or XP."

Because of the many "under the hood" improvements

Exactly.....

exotoxic said,
"I don't understand why people even installed it if all they are going to do is find a way to hack around in it. Keep 7, or XP."

Because of the many "under the hood" improvements

When do the 'under the hood' improvements overcome usability? If you buy a Yugo and drop a Ferrari engine in it, it still a Yugo. In this way i guess people should just get used to hearing people bitch about it, but it runs better!

Phebson said,

When do the 'under the hood' improvements overcome usability? If you buy a Yugo and drop a Ferrari engine in it, it still a Yugo. In this way i guess people should just get used to hearing people bitch about it, but it runs better!

No you would get a faster yugo.Things like ie10 , new task manager, and hyper-v are not available on windows 7

exotoxic said,

Because of the many "under the hood" improvements

Truth be told, I'm sure those same improvements can be delivered to Windows 7 via a service pack. But then again, who'd bother with Windows 8 then?

simplezz said,

Truth be told, I'm sure those same improvements could be delivered to Windows 7 via a service pack.

Fixed it for ya

Phebson said,

When do the 'under the hood' improvements overcome usability?

I'm sure we could have a long argument about that. Last time I tried Windows 8 there wasn't any lost usability, to be honest the start menu has never been good for much outside of opening pinned apps or shortcuts on the right hand side or searching for what you want, outside of that it's always been a mess. Not saying the new startscreen helps much with the mess when viewing all programs but it certainly didn't take existing usability like searching or opening pinned apps away.

neufuse said,
You shouldn't have to resort to something this stupid to get to the desktop at logon

You don't have to. Just leave windows 7 installed and it works everytime and people can cry less

neufuse said,
You shouldn't have to resort to something this stupid to get to the desktop at logon

Agreed. These are workarounds/hacks/exploits to fix a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. All Microsoft has to do is give the user an option to select the default boot interface, whether at the installation phase, or when first started, but the option should exist. It would solve one of the big complaints with Windows 8. That and restoring the start menu.

neufuse said,
You shouldn't have to resort to something this stupid to get to the desktop at logon

Considering the desktop environment is no longer the focus of Windows PCs, yes you should. What you just said is basically the equivalent of someone in the 80's complaining that Windows doesn't boot directly to the DOS prompt instead of the stupid GUI that has no programs for it.

The future of Windows is WinRT development. Why should they boot you into the old interface they're deprecating?

Avatar Roku said,

The future of Windows is WinRT development. Why should they boot you into the old interface they're deprecating?

Yeah, that's definitely true. /s For that reason not one of Microsofts programs is designed for WinRT...

simplezz said,

Agreed. These are workarounds/hacks/exploits to fix a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. All Microsoft has to do is give the user an option to select the default boot interface, whether at the installation phase, or when first started, but the option should exist. It would solve one of the big complaints with Windows 8. That and restoring the start menu.

It's not a frikkin' problem. It takes less than a second to open a desktop that loads MUCH faster than in Windows 7 from the Start Screen in Windows 8. I just don't get how impatient people can be. Windows 8 has already shaved seconds off your boot time.

Avatar Roku said,

Considering the desktop environment is no longer the focus of Windows PCs, yes you should. What you just said is basically the equivalent of someone in the 80's complaining that Windows doesn't boot directly to the DOS prompt instead of the stupid GUI that has no programs for it.

The future of Windows is WinRT development. Why should they boot you into the old interface they're deprecating?

Uh no, what I said is it's not that hard for MS to put a darn checkbox that says go to desktop at logon... this isn't some whineing complaint, even in windows 8 you can boot to the comand prompt if you want to... the option still exists, so your 80's complaining cant boot to dos prompt is pointless because well you still can! just in the Windows NT environment command line, not DOS... " Safe Mode with Command Prompt" ooh look what they let you do! they didn't remove a feature, they still kept it... just like they should of let you choose to go to the start screen or desktop at logon... I sware some of you people that saying we are whineing are whineing more about common sense features that where left out that should of been there "not being there because there is no point anymore!!! start screen is the future!!!" BS its not hard to have a choice built in....

simplezz said,

Agreed. These are workarounds/hacks/exploits to fix a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. All Microsoft has to do is give the user an option to select the default boot interface, whether at the installation phase, or when first started, but the option should exist. It would solve one of the big complaints with Windows 8. That and restoring the start menu.

That's what I say leave the option open, so you can decide if you want to keep using the desktop or metro tiles from the start.

Colin McGregor said,

You don't have to. Just leave windows 7 installed and it works everytime and people can cry less

like what you are doing right here and now ?

and quit telling people what to do

CasualViking said,
Windows 8 has already shaved seconds off your boot time.

Uhmm Windows 7 has always had hybernate as on option. It simply didn't default to it for shutting down. So no, Windows 8 hasn't trimmed seconds off my boot time.

andrewbares said,

Uhmm Windows 7 has always had hybernate as on option. It simply didn't default to it for shutting down. So no, Windows 8 hasn't trimmed seconds off my boot time.


Remember that Windows 8 doesn't use the same code base as Windows 7, and as such there can be differences in load time for the same feature. Have you actually compared Windows 7 and Windows 8 boot times on your system?

Or leave it like it is. It takes a killer 2 seconds for me to launch an app off the start screen, and have it open on the desktop. I don't understand why people even installed it if all they are going to do is find a way to hack around in it. Keep 7, or XP.

Phebson said,
Or leave it like it is. It takes a killer 2 seconds for me to launch an app off the start screen, and have it open on the desktop. I don't understand why people even installed it if all they are going to do is find a way to hack around in it. Keep 7, or XP.

people like to watch themselves cry

Phebson said,
Or leave it like it is. It takes a killer 2 seconds for me to launch an app off the start screen, and have it open on the desktop. I don't understand why people even installed it if all they are going to do is find a way to hack around in it. Keep 7, or XP.

So you believe it took Microsoft all those years to ONLY come up with Metro in Windows 8 and no other features are introduced.
Also, obviously NO Microsoft software whatsoever is going to be W8-only, let alone those WinRT applications.

OH, and yes, Metro is W8-only. W9 will be just like W7 again, if not, W7 will be supported for life - literally, by both MS and 3rd parties. All future technologies, APIs and software will hit W7, so there REALLY is no reason to ever upgrade Windows 7. Seriously.

I don't get why people are so worried about future OSs, I mean, I'm still living happily on Windows XP and enjoying DirectX11, the latest Windows Essentials version, all current APIs etc...

*cough*

GS:mac

Phebson said,
Or leave it like it is. It takes a killer 2 seconds for me to launch an app off the start screen, and have it open on the desktop. I don't understand why people even installed it if all they are going to do is find a way to hack around in it. Keep 7, or XP.

I agree. The desktop loads instantly after its launched. I honestly don't understand why so many people complain about it.

Glassed Silver said,
W9 will be just like W7 again.

Some people have delusions of grandeur. You just have delusions

Metro isn't going anywhere.

TCLN Ryster said,

Some people have delusions of grandeur. You just have delusions

Metro isn't going anywhere.

Well er...they're not calling it "Metro" any more so technically, yes, it is going away =P

aviator189 said,

I agree. The desktop loads instantly after its launched. I honestly don't understand why so many people complain about it.

I have no use for it, therefore, I do not wish to see it, or have to click past it. What is so hard to understand about that?

It's like having somebody loitering outside your front door every morning, and you having to ask him "Would you mind getting out of my way please?", so you can get on with your day.

Now he might be a very nice fellow, and is just trying to help, but if you don't want his help, then after a while, it's seriously going to get on your tits.

Edited by FiB3R, Aug 20 2012, 7:36pm :

Phebson said,
Or leave it like it is. It takes a killer 2 seconds for me to launch an app off the start screen, and have it open on the desktop. I don't understand why people even installed it if all they are going to do is find a way to hack around in it. Keep 7, or XP.

Maybe they like the other features of Windows 8 and this is something that annoys them. There have always been hacks to cure Windows annoyances. Hell, there is a whole website dedicated to it.

What I don't understand is people like you who insist that they know what is best for everyone. Hate to get all preachy, but I'm really tired of people telling me and other users what they should and shouldn't be doing. Learn some humility.

uggghh

why do people patch themes on xp ?

should i go on with a million examples ?

Why do Windows 8 fanboys make ridiculous statements ?
If you guys are bothered so much that *some people don't like Win 8,
may i suggest you mind your own business and quit complaining ?

Shadrack said,

Maybe they like the other features of Windows 8 and this is something that annoys them. There have always been hacks to cure Windows annoyances. Hell, there is a whole website dedicated to it.

What I don't understand is people like you who insist that they know what is best for everyone. Hate to get all preachy, but I'm really tired of people telling me and other users what they should and shouldn't be doing. Learn some humility.

Best comment of the decade !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

get OVER yourselves already tech "experts"

Glassed Silver said,

So you believe it took Microsoft all those years to ONLY come up with Metro in Windows 8 and no other features are introduced.
Also, obviously NO Microsoft software whatsoever is going to be W8-only, let alone those WinRT applications.

OH, and yes, Metro is W8-only. W9 will be just like W7 again, if not, W7 will be supported for life - literally, by both MS and 3rd parties. All future technologies, APIs and software will hit W7, so there REALLY is no reason to ever upgrade Windows 7. Seriously.

I don't get why people are so worried about future OSs, I mean, I'm still living happily on Windows XP and enjoying DirectX11, the latest Windows Essentials version, all current APIs etc...

*cough*

GS:mac


You are hilarious.

The past 2 versions of Windows Essentials have dropped XP support. Who are you trying to kid?

And no, Windows XP does not have "all current APIs etc". This is the real reason why Windows sucks, it's because developers choose to make their programs using old APIs instead of taking advantage of new ones.

I am Not PCyr said,
uggghh

why do people patch themes on xp ?

should i go on with a million examples ?

Why do Windows 8 fanboys make ridiculous statements ?
If you guys are bothered so much that *some people don't like Win 8,
may i suggest you mind your own business and quit complaining ?


For the same reason people like you do against Win 8, nothing more and nothing less. BTW I do not use Win 8 nor will I. . .just doesn't impress me.

Phebson said,
Or leave it like it is. It takes a killer 2 seconds for me to launch an app off the start screen, and have it open on the desktop. I don't understand why people even installed it if all they are going to do is find a way to hack around in it. Keep 7, or XP.

Your ignorance is surprising.
1. You must be living on an island if you don't understand why a great many people don't want metro as their primary interface.
2. Since when did customizing windows become forbidden and require that we stick to an older version?

Pam14160 said,

For the same reason people like you do against Win 8, nothing more and nothing less. BTW I do not use Win 8 nor will I. . .just doesn't impress me.

ok but look at WHO comments first..
and then the comments afterwards etc.

sometimes i see people post hateful Win 8 comments
and I can see it coming lol
But in all honesty i think the Fanboys are the one causing problems
simple as that.
People have a right to complain.
And fanboys are complaining about the complainers
which makes both sides complainers lol
make me wonder how many Chinese gov officials are here posting

Actually it works both ways. Regardless if the article is for or against both sides jump in there and start telling one side or the other how stupid, dumb, and whatever other adjective they can use to let the other side know how smart they are, and on the wrong track they just happen to be. . .

Please forgive the excess verbiage, but a couple of strokes have messed up my ability to spill. . .

Glassed Silver said,
I mean, I'm still living happily on Windows XP and enjoying DirectX11, the latest Windows Essentials version, all current APIs etc...
A hideous and ancient OS.
If there were more people like you, "GS:mac," we'd still be driving Model T's.

M:win8

Shadrack said,

Maybe they like the other features of Windows 8 and this is something that annoys them. There have always been hacks to cure Windows annoyances. Hell, there is a whole website dedicated to it.

What I don't understand is people like you who insist that they know what is best for everyone. Hate to get all preachy, but I'm really tired of people telling me and other users what they should and shouldn't be doing. Learn some humility.

Linux is over there -->
Microsoft pretty much tells you what to use if you need Office or something else right? I hope in the future if registry keys that prevent metro from opening keep updates from being installed, or even keep the machine from booting
I'm all for it.

superconductive said,

Your ignorance is surprising.
1. You must be living on an island if you don't understand why a great many people don't want metro as their primary interface.
2. Since when did customizing windows become forbidden and require that we stick to an older version?

If my ignorance is surprising, you must suffer from agoraphobia, as there are quite a bit more ignorant people in the world. A 'great' many according to you must be the site alone, as the shop that I work at have people huddle around the displays running win8. But whatever. Your ignorance of having to or wanting to change something as soon as its released amuses me as well.