iCloud will not support Windows XP

So it turns out that Apple has decided to drop support for Windows XP with their iCloud application, despite supporting it in its predecessor MobileMe. The company’s press release states (via TUAW): “Using iCloud with a PC requires Windows Vista or Windows 7; Outlook 2010 or 2007 is recommended for accessing contacts and calendars.” There is no mention of the almost 10 year old operating system here.

MobileMe and iTunes 10.3 currently both support Windows XP Service Pack 2, but it appears as though Apple’s latest endeavour will not. This could mean the end of XP support for all future Apple software releases and updates, including iTunes, as Apple forces customers to use a more recent iteration of Microsoft’s OS. In fact it wouldn’t be surprising at all, considering the support for Apple’s own Mac OS X goes only as far back as the four-year-old Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard.

Some users may be angry at Apple for dropping support for the most popular version of Windows ever, however others will see it as a good move considering the OS is almost ten years old – a considerable age for something in the technology industry. In fact, Neowin’s own Steven Parker reminds us all that still using Windows XP today is the same using Windows 95 in 2005.

Thanks for the tip Mephistopheles via the forums.

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"In fact, Neowin's own Steven Parker reminds us all that still using Windows XP today is the same using Windows 95 in 2005."
Just like to say I got my old compaq windows 98SE machine out yesterday and had some fun with it.
Needless to say I don't think 98SE was as bad as I thought it was.

n_K said,
"In fact, Neowin's own Steven Parker reminds us all that still using Windows XP today is the same using Windows 95 in 2005."
Just like to say I got my old compaq windows 98SE machine out yesterday and had some fun with it.
Needless to say I don't think 98SE was as bad as I thought it was.

Until a crashed application takes your whole system down.

n_K said,
"In fact, Neowin's own Steven Parker reminds us all that still using Windows XP today is the same using Windows 95 in 2005."
Just like to say I got my old compaq windows 98SE machine out yesterday and had some fun with it.
Needless to say I don't think 98SE was as bad as I thought it was.

How, most newer applications don't run or it.. or should not soon. Plus it has a lack of features which is on 7. I mean Windows 7 is cheap to buy online these days, even new hardware with it on is cheap. Really anyone should leave XP for dead now.

n_K said,
to say I don't think 98SE was as bad as I thought it was.
Must have done nothing on it.

Prior to moving to Windows 2000 I had to reinstall my OS ever 4-6 months because of issues that developed. Once moving to 2k/XP I only had to reinstall once every year or more. Win7 I have reinstalled on a single computer a max of twice since launch.

necrosis said,
Must have done nothing on it.

Prior to moving to Windows 2000 I had to reinstall my OS ever 4-6 months because of issues that developed. Once moving to 2k/XP I only had to reinstall once every year or more. Win7 I have reinstalled on a single computer a max of twice since launch.

Weird. I have installed Win7 about a half dozen times since it's release. Vista on the other hand, I installed twice and never had any issues with (other then the usual).

its always good when powerful authorities want old things like XP and IE6 dead .. i support

They may not have been able to incorporate newer features with such a dated os. Could also cost them more to develop XP support than they would make from XP customers. Pretty smart decision to cut ties with XP IMO.

OK... In the PC market Apple's big rival is Microsoft Windows... Apple wants potential buyers to believe Macs are better, & of course buy one. When it comes to their iCloud, there's no reason to believe Apple has suddenly changed their marketing spiel -- no reason to believe that Apple's done a 180 & is now saying Windows PCs are cool... that would be absurd. So the question is why does Apple think it easier to sell win7 users a Mac? Is it because Apple doesn't want to bother with value conscious, practical XP users, or because Macs don't look so hot in *that* comparison?

At any rate it all boils down to the fact that like any other corp Apple doesn't do anything unless they expect it to make them $, & at this point at least they don't feel XP users are a good market.

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Neowin's own Steven Parker reminds us all that still using Windows XP today is the same using Windows 95 in 2005.

And today in the US Midwest it's going to be hot again... that's just as irrelevant. I run both 7 & XP, spend much more time in 7, & I fail to see what part of typing this comment is working better because I'm in 7 at the moment. Everything I run in 7 runs in XP -- hard & software -- but I can't say the opposite. In many respects, newer is just, well, newer... ;-)

mikiem said,

At any rate it all boils down to the fact that like any other corp Apple doesn't do anything unless they expect it to make them $, & at this point at least they don't feel XP users are a good market.

It's not just seeing if it will make them money, they may have dropped support for XP in order to use some of the tech that was introduced in Vista, and they didn't want to SPEND the money to back port it to XP.

Supporting old OSes is expensive, not just for the maker of said OS, but for any developer who writes for that platform. It involves extra time, effort and therefor money to compatibility test on the old system, and hell it is 10 years old, I think it's time that people moved on and apparently so does Apple

I thought Apple said iCloud eliminates the need for the PC or is it needed for just contacts in Outlook etc.

Confused now

Dan~ said,
I thought Apple said iCloud eliminates the need for the PC or is it needed for just contacts in Outlook etc.

Confused now

I thought the idea was that you don't have to have your iTunes purchases and settings tied to a single computer, you can log in and sync your ipod or whatever from anywhere. Of course you'll still need a PC to run iTunes though.

Dan~ said,
I thought Apple said iCloud eliminates the need for the PC or is it needed for just contacts in Outlook etc.

Confused now


It's either the MobileMe control panel which syncs contacts, mail, calendar or Photo Stream which would push new photos to your pictures folder.

Dan~ said,
I thought Apple said iCloud eliminates the need for the PC or is it needed for just contacts in Outlook etc.

Confused now

It eliminates the need to use the PC as the hub to push the information to all your devices. ie: the PC, and more specifically, ANY PC, is now considered 'just another device', rather than the ultimate holder of all your precious information.

Good, the only people still using XP should be people with a specific need for software that doesn't yet support Windows 7, even then it should raise questions about why a company still isn't supporting the latest operating systems and technologies....

"despite supporting it in its predecessor MobileMe."

Well that's not surprising considering MobileMe and iCloud will have almost 4 years between them, a lot can happen with technology in that time..

Windows XP is (thankfully) dead, Microsoft knows it, Apple knows it, the only people that don't are businesses and certain consumers who like to bash any new OS that Microsoft release.

SoyoS said,
Windows XP is (thankfully) dead, Microsoft knows it, Apple knows it, the only people that don't are businesses and certain consumers who like to bash any new OS that Microsoft release.

Or just perhaps some people that have completely made the move to 7 want to reassure themselves that they did the right thing? :-) Or maybe they drink the Microsoft Kool-Aid? ;-)

Whatever, personally I don't think it's any of my business what car anyone drives, where they work, or what OS their PC runs. I like 7, don't get me wrong, but I fail to see how or why the OS &/or hardware anyone's running matters to anyone else.

SoyoS said,
Windows XP is (thankfully) dead, Microsoft knows it, Apple knows it, the only people that don't are businesses and certain consumers who like to bash any new OS that Microsoft release.

Yeah, the whole "omg it's new it breaks EVERYTHING" got old real quick. The initial vista release still sucked, though, and even Bill Gates knows it.

TogoP said,
I thought it was the post PC and Mac era - what are they doing adding PC support for their cloud?
haha

Diagramatic said,

why would apple want to push windows 7?

Because Apple and Microsoft work together, they act like they compete with each other through marketing but they're pretty much the same kind of force helping each other out.

Darth Radeon said,

Because Apple and Microsoft work together, they act like they compete with each other through marketing but they're pretty much the same kind of force helping each other out.

<Insert Fry not sure if serious image>

Darth Radeon said,
Because Apple and Microsoft work together, they act like they compete with each other through marketing but they're pretty much the same kind of force helping each other out.
*cough*bull*****cough*

Diagramatic said,
why would apple want to push windows 7?

I was kidding /facepalm. That's what people kept saying about IE dropping support for XP.