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Is the iPad Apple's iFail?

Whilst the dust settles on Apple's recently announced iPad, it seems the hype has died down and everyone has an opinion on Apple's latest creation. At Neowin we've been mulling over the announcements and have a few thoughts and feelings about Apple's new iPad.

What is it?

As Apple CEO Steve Jobs introduced the iPad on Wednesday January 27 he described it as something between a Smartphone and a laptop. "Is there room for a third category device in the middle?" he asked. Jobs explained that in order to create a new category of devices, those devices would need to be "far better at some key tasks". The iPad is effectively a large iPod touch with optional 3G connection if you look at it in its basic form. Aside from the exterior the iPad packs a 1GHz Apple processor, 16, 32, or 64GB of flash storage and comes with iPhone OS 3.2 meaning it supports most of your old iPhone/iPod Touch applications.

What's good about it?

It's certainly a device in-between a Smartphone and a full laptop. The display is well sized, well lit and nearly perfect for photos and videos. The addition of eBooks will likely signal the death of Amazon's Kindle and similar devices and the convergence of many media features into one device. The device also appears to cope well playing digital media and rendering web pages with impressive responsiveness.

What's bad about it?

Where do we start? Apple has picked an odd size for this device. It's too big to use as a mobile device and it's too small to use as a productivity device. The screen on the device is 4:3 and not the usual 16:9 widescreen that is a standard amongst most gadgets these days. It's almost a step back for video playback. Next up there's no multi tasking, you can't compare an email with a map or compare a document with a web page as you have to step in and out of applications in the same way you have to on the iPhone. Apple has also dismissed Flash support in the browser meaning thousands of web pages will not render as they were designed. There's also no USB ports, you need to purchase an adaptor for that. Perhaps the biggest drawback of the device is the lack of a camera. This is a huge down flaw that will put off many potential buyers. A camera in a mobile device is essential and has become standard in most Netbooks today. If Apple can pack a camera into an iPod Nano why can't they put it into an iPad?

Should I buy one?

There's no easy way to answer this one. It truly depends on your circumstances. If you have a Smartphone, be it an iPhone, Android or other device and you also have a laptop then we would say no. If you don't have a powerful Smartphone and want to do some casual browsing and media consumption but don't want to use your laptop each time then it may be for you. The iPhone and iPod Touch can handle most of the features that the iPad has if you're primarily using them in an "on the go" sense. The iPad isn't something you're likely to want to use discreetly at a dinner table but it may be something that your family could pick up quickly and use to send emails, watch videos and browse the web around your home.

Will this thing sell?

That's a good question. Historically Apple's mobile devices have done very well against their competitors. The iPod just reached 250 million units sold and the iPhone is gaining market and mind share around the world. I have a feeling that the first generation iPad may not fair so well against Netbooks and mobile phones. Apple is trying to create a new category of devices here and the hype for this tablet was huge. Looking across the Internet for reactions to the device there seems to be the general feeling that the announcement was disappointing. The device isn't cheap either for something that is lacking in basic features. Looking back at the introduction of the Nintendo Wii, many people were skeptical it would sell due to the poor graphics and lack of games. The Wii sold extremely well but mainly due to its unique controller. The iPad doesn't have a killer feature that has made everyone go "wow" yet. Perhaps once iPad developers start creating applications for the platform then this will change but asides from third party applications it's a little disappointing.

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People need to stop comparing the iPad to the iPhone or iPod. With the iPhone you could make phone calls. With the iPod you could listen to music. What exactly does the iPad do? As a customer expected to shell our my hard earned brass for a product every once in a while I'd like the product to actually do something and not just be 'cool' an end in intself.

The one thing that impresses me most about the comments posted about the iPad is that not one of you has ever handled or used one! I guess you would have said the same things when the first computer was announced all those years ago. Surely it is more sensible to make a balanced judgement once you have used and evaluated the iPad for yourself ? Then again, what do I know..

The iPad is a misunderstood child. It is not meant to replace any of your gear. It is meant as a media consumption device. Think of it as a digital magazine. You may leave it lying around the house, either on the coffee table or a night stand in your bed room, when you want to read something real quickly, boom! your iPad is there. Am excited because I wanted a bigger iPhone OS touch based device. This is Apple's biggest multitouch device yet.

actually, since Apple has abit less than 60 days to ship the thing out, who know's if this was a 'fake' announcement to throw competitors off when the REAL iTablet comes out on launch day. Oh sigh how I wish it were so...

it is indeed an iFail. What was Steve thinking; the much rumored tablet was already released into the world in 2007 in the form of the iPhone. I seriously hope Apple puts its focus back into the Mac platform - we dont need a third category that sits between 'smart phone' and 'laptop', we need the two existing platforms to be concrete. The MacBook platform has HUGE potential.

DragonWings said,
iFail

iFail? from what? What is on this device that is so fail? I just don't get it what people want from the iPad. It's not meant to replace your main computer, its a media consumption device.

Yes, iFail ! I already have an iphone, why would I want a much larger version that doesn't even do all the things my iphone does........

Huffdady said,
Yes, iFail ! I already have an iphone, why would I want a much larger version that doesn't even do all the things my iphone does........

You may not need it, but there are other people who were wishing for a bigger multitouch device from Apple based on the iPhone OS which is based on a modified version of OS X.

As much as I love the iPod: the iPhone and now the iPad have been a let down to me. Apple really made innovation with the iPod, they added features that other mp3 players didn't have. The iPhone is brilliant, I don't own one because of the lack of multitasking and the lock downsApple place upon software but I do appreciate its speed and the quality of the device.

The iPad had such potential, coming from Apple it had a guaranteed market but has been let down by some of the issues people don't necessarily need of their fancy iPhone but would be stupid to go without on a laptop alternative.

How can Apple expect anyone that actually wants a tool that enhances their lifestyle to purchase the iPad? The dimensions, and lock downs and lack of connectivity make the device a liability when it comes to productivity on the move. The lack of multitasking makes the idea of this being an alternative to a laptop/netbook just a joke.

I hope Apple continue to develop the iPad and that one day it can multitask and be the Swiss army knife of portable devices but right now it seems to be more of a gimmick than a tool.

What surprised me the most was when I hit up one of my friends who bows at the alter of Steve... this guy has owned several macbook/macbook pro computers, ipod, iphone, apple tv in every room of the house, and airport router...He told me the iPad is a steaming pile of crap

Given that I don't think that this device is going to be very well received. It also seems like with the new MicroSIM that it's not going to be hacker friendly... I think that being able to hack the iphone and use it anywhere was one of the primary reasons it is so popular.

it has iFail written all over it....and the worst for Apple is that its failures are much more visible than any of its other devices....and hence it reduces its face value to a great extent !!

look at the stock market. after announcement, AAPL fell. investors are disappointed at this product.

I think apple this time just wants to make money out of the popularity of the iPhone. what else did they do to the new product, except making a larget iPhone? No wonder it can sell it cheap because enlarging a phone doesn't cost much.

and iPad, what a fuggy name. sounds like the women's sanitary pad. :s

Apple putting a ****ty product in a big aluminum casing with a graphite engraved Apple logo. Big ****ing deal.

Seriously? Who would buy this retarded thing? Is it that hard to have a laptop in your lap than an iPad? Oh well, only the real idiots will buy this thing.

What is going on? This is just lame. Lame. Lame.

Lame.

A tablet without handwriting? Who thought that one up? I always thought that was the whole point of a tablet.
No multitasking? When was the last time anyone saw a computer that can't even walk and chew gum? 1997?
No Flash? No Java? Can't even display Apple's own website.
No stylus? Can't draw. Can't write.
Removable battery? Forget it.

Just what is the point of this piece of utter rubbish? Lets face it. That's exactly what it is.

iPad? iFad more like. iPass.

I agree that it is a pointless product, but we are talking about Apple here.
Steve Jobs could sell his faeces as the "iTurd (tm)" and people would buy it and pretend it didn't stink.

And anyone who thinks this will the e-reader doesn't understand what and e-reader is and probably doesn't read much either.

I think it'll take a good year and an iPad version 2.0 before this actually gets popular. But they have something strong, it's just that right now there's no books, no native apps, and a few missing hardware options like camera, a few USB ports maybe, optical-out audio jack (combined within the usual stereo headphone jack like on the iMac)... and that resolution... ugh. It should have been AT LEAST 15:10, but 16:9 is the new trend and it would make more sense because there would actually be a difference between landscape and portrait modes. And the iPad's a bad name. iTablet and iSlate were better...

As I said, I expect this thing to be VERY popular in a year or two. It just needs more work and they need to listen to the criticism.

hmmm curious with all these saying they'd buy a Android tablet thats not even being developed yet, that again is a phone OS not a full OS, but somehow this is suddenly ok???

I can't believe they actually named it the iPad. The whole "i" think is so old now it would have been bad no matter what they chose, but to intentionally name it something they knew would be compared to feminine hygiene products is just dumb on their part.

It's not a failure per se, but it's definitely not something the average person would need/use. I don't know anyone who would use one, either. But then again, I live in a small town full of old people.

iPad's UI is full of win apart from home screen.But multitasking restriction is making this device look bad.Biggest blow for me is lack of camera.Imagine if it had isight camera and ichat call conference abilities.

Our tech team didn't have 'inside' information exactly, but we did have a heads up on a few details of what the iPad was going to be. And even though we had heard some of the features, even our Apple Mac hating techs didn't believe some of the information we had received could possibly be accurate. Sadly, it was...

The whole 4:3 aspect is really a big 'gasp', especially on a device centered around 'media' and movie content. The extra pixels on the screen may help the NYT reader, but for virtually everything else, they make the unit bigger with a 'smaller' effective screen size. They would have been better off to adopt a netbook resolution of 1024x600 or upped the resolution to true HD 1280x720. NTSC called from 1960 and they want their aspect ratio to finally die...

The other thing that personally gets me is the name, and we heard about Apple fighting for iPad last year, but never really thought they would go ahead with the name, as it just sounds too silly for obvious reasons. It is also 'technically' bad, because you can't use the device properly with a pen and use it like a pad whatsoever.

The name is hurting them now, and the disappointement of it 'really' being just the iPhone OS X 4.0 OS instead of finally giving Mac users what they were asking for, and that is a true Mac Tablet. (With the prices and technology, there is no reason NOT to put a desktop OS on a unit of this size, especially when you seen XP and Win7 running on netbooks and devices the size of the iPhone.)

It has taken years for shoving for tablet/touch technology to become cheap, as the first TabletPCs were around $2,000, and even at Vista's launch in 2007, there were still in the $1000 range.

However now you can pick up Tablet/Touch technology in the same range as a standard laptop, which is going to move the product from the success it was in business markets to the consumer markets as it is now affordable. Win7 was designed for this momentum.

Apple really missed an opportunity by not thinking the consumer market wants or could use a full OS on a device this size. They really should have realized it was the 'price point' that kept the TabletPCs from being more successful in the consumer channels, not that they were not wanted.

As for people that say a full desktop OS on a device this size is clunky, they haven't really used Win7 on a TabletPC, additionally, if you just want to run a few optimized 'touch' applications, you can still do with on Win7 as well, and keep to Hulu Desktop, Windows Media Center, and even the HP touch applications, and never see the Win7 desktop and get just the basic functionality of the iPad. (These applications work really well on small touch screen already.)

Kindle Killer? Can't see anyone ditching a Kindle (Or similar) for a LCD. That said, being that there's already a Kindle for iPod App out there I can't see Amazon being overly concerned.

we can scream as long as we like here, this product will sell pretty well at least for the first 3-4 months, then Apple will have to upgrade or give us something (WWDC is next) ...so yeah, it will sell in the beginning, it remains a question where will this device be in the next 2-3 years.

DARKFiB3R said,

BS

Then why did Steve Jobs talked bull**** about the whole concept and about better Windows tablets and slates (and all mactards echoed him)? He stopped only a year ago when he finally understood Apple's being left behind..

ev0| said,
if microsoft had put this out you would have all been gaga over it

Yeah right, just like everyone went gaga over the Zune. What planet are you from?

Jose_49 said,
It still has 16:10 screen

No, it's 4:3 ... I feel so bad for Apple choosing this resolution. Why!?!?

First of all i didn't understood all the hype & frenzy before the announcement & whole web going crazy about "rumor" before launch, and now when we know "rumor" was indeed true, i don't understand people not tiring criticizing it. i mean what to expect from a tablet??. this had to be "this" , if not what else? . if they would have placed mac os + 2gig processor + camera + "some wierd" carrier locks + "something somethings..." & would have retailed at $999+, had it been hit then??. ok it is apple & they do things differently but its not wise to expect a heavy rig feature in $400 tablet. come on! it's just a tablet.

People were expecting a game changing touch screen laptop solution of the magnitude of the iPhone in the cell phone market. They didn't even get their baseline expectations met.

Edited by excalpius, Jan 29 2010, 6:43pm :

Absolutely useless product. Jobs was saying netbooks are just cheap laptops, fair point, but then he brings out a product that can't do half the things a netbook is capable off (unless you buy extra apple hardware). An oversized iPod Touch, and they call it "magical".

It could be better if it's a tablet type of MacBook OR screen size should be as low as 4-5" with WVGA screen or HD if possible!

It hasn't been authorized by the FCC yet, so the Feds/NSA can't get in to you data. Once they can, they will approve Apple's new device for sale.

Epic iFail on multiple levels:
1. Name infringes on trademark from Fujitsu. They make an iPAD which is a Windows mobile based device that accepts touch input and has Wi-Fi and Bluetooth support.
2. Product is nothing more than an oversized iPod Touch with the option for 3G data service. Still bound to the same content restrictions such as lack of Flash support and the inablity to buy software from retail outlets. Apple in effect runs a totalitarian computer state in which its residents may only recieve information in which Apple has had the ability to filter. Think of it as the Great Firewall of China only it applies to apple users and it is here in the US and Europe. Lest we not forget that Al Gore, the great Global Warming demagogue himself, is on Apple's Board of Directors.
3. The iPad will not be particularly usefull in any market sector, unlike the HP Slate which runs Windows 7 and could potentially be used by mobile professionals who make service calls.

In any case, the sales numbers will ultimately tell the tale.

no true 720p display,
no multi-tasking (multicore CPU)
no USB/USBmini 3.0 connector (no optional wireless USB),
no slim bezer 1-5mm (just ugly fat bezel)
no flash (i dont like flash but if it's not there as optional no point to bother)
so
no sale ...

Dwarden said,
no true 720p display,
no multi-tasking (multicore CPU)
no USB/USBmini 3.0 connector (no optional wireless USB),
no slim bezer 1-5mm (just ugly fat bezel)
no flash (i dont like flash but if it's not there as optional no point to bother)
so
no sale ...

1. the screen is actually higher res than 720p. It's a different aspect ratio.
2. multitasking is nothing to do with the CPU (at least in the way you think it is.) it could easily be enabled in a software update if apple so wished.
3. fair enough.
4. matter of opinion.
5. Whilst i'd love to view flash videos, I believe this is part of an industry wide initiative to phase out flash in favour of html5.

Shetland said,

1. the screen is actually higher res than 720p. It's a different aspect ratio.

Nope, it's less *because* it's a different aspect ratio. 720p implies more than just vertical resolution. It also specifies the horizontal, and the iPad lacks more than 200 pixels in that direction, making it impossible to fully display 720p video on it.

720p is 1280x720. The iPad is 1024x768.

A larger screen, small bezel, at 1280x1024 (with 1080p output to HDMI or bleh DP) would have made this a very compelling video player...

No camera

No flash

NO USB - I spend that kind of money and I still need to buy an adapter to use my usb devices?

It's a fail product, no doubt their next revision coming to Xmas 2010 will come with much more.

Take a look at the iPhone, each OS revision we get more of the features it should have had when it was first released.

Google Nexus One (apart of screen size) is more superior than iPad: similar CPU speed (but not capability prbably?), multitasking, camera, and well you can call with it as it's a phone .... lol !
and Nexus One cost 350$ without contract, you just saved 150$ at least!

If this iTurd had any more fail in it, it would suffer from a cascade overload and implode upon itself. Good luck to those of you brainwashed enough to buy one.

I think it's going to be just like the Apple TV .. it's
going to sell and after a few weeks people will
sell in on eBay. MSI, HP and a few others are
coming out with devices that will support flash,
do multitasking. If they can keep the cost down
they will win at the end ....

I'm waiting for the HP or MSI solution ...

I'm sorry but this won't do anything to the eReaders. Anyone whos spent time with a Nook or Kindle knows the difference, and knows the comfort of eInk screens.

There are many factors that wll contribute to the iPad's very limited success. But at the end of the day customers can purchase a netbook or laptop with better specs (some with 3G), all the ports you need, and a physical keyboard for the same cost or less. That's what most consumers call a "no brainer".

to be honest, it almost makes sense for them to hold back on some features/hardware etc, as someone else pointed out, the people who buy the first IPad, will definatly want the upgrade which contains the camera etc next year.

They know (and we all know) that this will be a successful product because its built by apple (well made) and has the apple logo on it.

They have also done a great job with marketing, creating so many rumours, speculation, its worked wonders for their publicity, but with that said, great marketing is useless without a great product.

brolicboy said,

Joke is getting pretty old...

I love the Apple fans. They make stupid Windows jokes for 20 years but when it's Apple the joke is "old" after a few days. :P

Saburac said,

I love the Apple fans. They make stupid Windows jokes for 20 years but when it's Apple the joke is "old" after a few days. :P


Yeah, MaxiPad is old after 24 hours, but there's no killing "M$" despite it being about as fresh as groovy and tubular.

Saburac said,

I love the Apple fans. They make stupid Windows jokes for 20 years but when it's Apple the joke is "old" after a few days. :P

I'm not an Apple fanboy since I only own an iPhone. I own a gateway with Windows 7 and a 360.

Your Troll-o-meter is off the charts.

Excellent article. My opinion is that first generation Apple hardware is never worth the investment, however, Apple has an excellent track record for revving and fixing the flaws that define their first gen products. Just take a minute to compare the first gen iPod to the second gen, or first gen iPhone to second gen iPhone. Apple revisions are an integral part of their marketing strategy. If this doesn't have a completely successful launch I am confident Apple will learn from the mistakes they made during this launch and address them on the revision, which will likely be a rousing success. Still, I have no plans to pick one up. I feel like having an Android phone makes a device like this fairly useless.

Why are all the reviewers believing Job's third category speech. The iPad is a SLATE, therefore belongs in the category with the rest of the SLATE PC'S!!

Titoist said,
Why are all the reviewers believing Job's third category speech. The iPad is a SLATE, therefore belongs in the category with the rest of the SLATE PC'S!!

Stevie can say whatever he want, most people agree that the third category between phone and laptop is a device known as 'netbook'. Perhaps Apple hasn't heard of it?

neufuse said,
whats the next version going to be called when they add in all the missing features? Max iPad? *ol*

you gota be kiddin me. apple adding all the missing features in the next model? try more like another 3 versions lol.

iam not impressed with the device and its a huge letdown on apples part. when i 1st herd on neowin that apple had planed a touch screen slate device i wasnt expecting an over sized ipodtouch which looks fugly.

the ipad is the ipods touch's ugly sister while the ipodtouch would win hands down every time in the looks department.

neufuse said,
whats the next version going to be called when they add in all the missing features? Max iPad? *ol*

You are right on!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs&feature=player_embedded

I've told everybody for the past year, in these very forums, that it would be a larger iPod Touch. 8)

But even I didn't realize they'd release it without adding some more ooopmf. 8(

Shadrack said,
Its missing the Mac OS X App. You know, the one that lets you use your computer like you want to?

hope some one jailbreaks the device and gives it some linux or osx goodness.

Very interesting article. I'm still not sure whether I like it or not. Thought it was quite exciting at first when Steve unveiled it, but now I'm struggling to see a use for it. Certainly for me with an iPhone, 10" Sony VAIO and a 13" MacBook I won't be rushing out to buy one.

So I watched the press announcement along with hundreds of thousands of other people and I came away with disappointment and agree this might be called the iFlop.

Several articles have said this is the "death of the Kindle", however I do not agree. While the Kindle is not a multimedia powerhouse, and it only has a grey scale screen, it is a great READING device. E-Ink is like having a great massage for the eyes compared to any LCD technology. Plus the Kindle can go weeks without a charge if you turn off the wireless and just read what you have. Plus there are no monthly fees. Ironically I returned my Kindle i purchased for Christmas just the other day as I wanted to see what Apple had in store. Needless to say I will be buying the Kindle again.

I believe Amazon is in a GREAT spot right now. Apple has shown its hand and Amazon, if they would choose to, could create a device that would bring content from newspapers, magazines, and other sources into something truly groundbreaking. All of the publishers are asking for a way to deliver their content to masses and not everyone wants to be in bed with Apple. Blend this with the Amazon MP3 store and movies and you would have a device that would make the iPad look cheap.

wilbert said,
I returned my Kindle i purchased for Christmas just the other day as I wanted to see what Apple had in store. Needless to say I will be buying the Kindle again.

Good post, but what a very strange thing to do.

wilbert said,
Ironically I returned my Kindle i purchased for Christmas just the other day as I wanted to see what Apple had in store. Needless to say I will be buying the Kindle again.

I agree with Examinus - a good post, but why on Earth did you return the Kindle before Apple made the announcement?

Edited by stereopixels, Jan 30 2010, 8:44am :

They have 60 days before release, turn that to six months and go back to the drawing board and have a serious look at the features - even a front mounted VGA camera for messing about DSi style would be a plus, one on the back for pictures while blogging. Apparently whatever you want to do, you just DO, as the man with the scary eyes says in the promo, except you cant view youtube straight off the net via flash, or take pictures that you could slot into the presentations or whatever. USB ports are a must, how on earth did they think they could leave them out, and that it needs an extra cost for an adapter is just idiotic.

I guess now that this is out in the open and out of the way MS can finish up their courior and actually wow people with something that's actually usefull.

SH3K0 said,
I thought we moved away from 4:3 screens?!
Makes sense for a tablet though, a 16:9 display would be awkward to hold

Rudy said,
Makes sense for a tablet though, a 16:9 display would be awkward to hold

Hmmm, I didn't look at it that way but still, the iPhone OS being used as an OS just makes no sense. They really should have used either OSX or cut down version with some sort of multitasking capabilities.

4:3 is actually really nice. Try to use an old monitor for web browsing, 1024px width is more than enough, all you need is more height.
Anyway, this device is still epic fail.

I really don't even see this device as being the death of the Kindle and the other e-readers like so many people claim. This might be good for reading for short periods of times, but if you read alot (like a student) the eInk is much easier on the eyes than a backlight screen.

My Kindle has it's faults and things I'd to see improved on it, but I will never replace it with anything backlight. That really defeats the point of the device. If I wanted to read things on a lightbulb, I can just grab my laptop.

I still think there was so much hype two years ago that Apple would make a tablet to compete with Microsoft... Apple didn't have one, they saw the hype and rushed it so much all they did was make the iPod touch larger and redo some software on it for a larger screen....

to me, it is a failure for a tablet, no native handwriting support with ful language recognition? not much of a tablet without that... MS has had that feature for how many years now?

A camera? That's a major reason for predicting the failure of this product? Can you see many people holding up this gigantic device to take a low-quality photo of their ugly kids or drunk friends? Let's all start holding up pads of paper today and make clicking sounds to see how much we can annoy our coworkers.

Skwerl said,
A camera? That's a major reason for predicting the failure of this product? Can you see many people holding up this gigantic device to take a low-quality photo of their ugly kids or drunk friends? Let's all start holding up pads of paper today and make clicking sounds to see how much we can annoy our coworkers.

...what? Really? THAT'S what you think people want the camera for? Apple is rambling on about how this is the *best* way to use the internet--people want a camera for video chat, man. Did it really completely fail to occur to you?

(and heck, I can already imagine the new YouTube trend of posting vlogs via iPad)

Edited by Joshie, Jan 28 2010, 4:41pm :

Skwerl said,
A camera? That's a major reason for predicting the failure of this product? Can you see many people holding up this gigantic device to take a low-quality photo of their ugly kids or drunk friends? Let's all start holding up pads of paper today and make clicking sounds to see how much we can annoy our coworkers.

No, but I can see myself taking inventory in my shop and taking pictures of stuff while modifying records in my database. Not with this device, obviously.

My failure call on this product is concerned with its limited functionality. At $499, it had better come with a cam among other things, no matter how crappy it is. :p

Fail. The idea is to appeal to consumers, not make them worry about what's really under the hood. No flash and cam? Not a great way to start off IMO.

DaMiEn said,
Fail. The idea is to appeal to consumers, not make them worry about what's really under the hood. No flash and cam? Not a great way to start off IMO.

It's a tablet, why would you need a camera? Unless it has a forward facing one for video conferencing... but that's about it

Camera for video conferencing is a start. Aside from the many features this product may lack, I have come to admire Apple for well rounded products in their market. The purpose of this device is beyond me since it lacks some basic features (as was mentioned before). And yes, some tablet devices do have cameras. Take my HP TX for example or you may google others. :)

Without a GPS (and the aforementioned camera) this isn't a "take anywhere" device, unfortunately.

Perfect for taking with you on a plane, for example, or for big iPod Touch moments, but otherwise...

excalpius said,
Without a GPS (and the aforementioned camera) this isn't a "take anywhere" device, unfortunately.

Perfect for taking with you on a plane, for example, or for big iPod Touch moments, but otherwise...

It's a tablet, not a navigation device... GPS would be nice for some stuff, but I could see people trying to turn it into their car navigation with this huge 10" device blocking out part of their car's view

neufuse said,

It's a tablet, not a navigation device... GPS would be nice for some stuff, but I could see people trying to turn it into their car navigation with this huge 10" device blocking out part of their car's view

I really don't understand why everyone thinks it doesn't have GPS. IT DOES! read the specs page on the apple website. wifi, 3g and GPS.

The Apple site says "Assisted GPS". That can mean A) wifi+cell tower SOFTWARE solution (like blackberrys do without a hardware GPS unit), or B) a proper GPS unit.

Since A) sucks, and B) rules, we're going to need a little more info here. For me, I won't be buying 4 of these if they don't have a hardware GPS unit. It's useless to me without it.

The biggest turn off for me is not being able to multi-task on the device. Other than, for the first time ever, I think this is a great product from Apple.

Sean Bradford said,
The biggest turn off for me is not being able to multi-task on the device. Other than, for the first time ever, I think this is a great product from Apple.

Reminds me of the original Mac OS, multi tasking sucked... its like they are going to their roots.... for this day and age in computing multitasking is a must

neufuse said,

Reminds me of the original Mac OS, multi tasking sucked... its like they are going to their roots.... for this day and age in computing multitasking is a must

Absolutely. I can't imagine a device in this day and age without multi-tasking... I'll pass.

No Flash support, multi-tasking, and no USB as a default on all devices? What bizarro parallel universe is Steve Jobs from? This looks almost as useless as the MacBook Wheel that Onion news did a parody of a while back. So, basically it's a gianter and faster iPod Touch.

devHead said,
No Flash support, multi-tasking, and no USB as a default on all devices? What bizarro parallel universe is Steve Jobs from? This looks almost as useless as the MacBook Wheel that Onion news did a parody of a while back. So, basically it's a gianter and faster iPod Touch.

It definatly should of had a USB port for external storage... so you dont have to email documents from iWorks to another comptuer just to move them around... flash is almost a definate anymore in web browsing... multi-tasking yep... don't know what they where thinking

devHead said,
No Flash support, multi-tasking, and no USB as a default on all devices? What bizarro parallel universe is Steve Jobs from? This looks almost as useless as the MacBook Wheel that Onion news did a parody of a while back. So, basically it's a gianter and faster iPod Touch.

Yeah, those are all huge issues IMO...

No storage expansion options AT ALL. No SD slot, etc. etc.

I assume there is no USB support because this isn't really OSX. Therefore, no drivers. But since the iOS and OSX have the same codebase, I don't see why Apple didn't make this a full OSX unit that plays like an iPod Touch, rather than an iPod Touch with a, um, dock...

Cut the size by about 25% and market it to visually impaired people as a large print iPod! I'd buy one (for around $150 though). heh...

ahhell said,
Unnecessary device is unnecessary.

Magical device? It's a magical piece of ****.

Well it probably seemed magical with all that "fairy dust" floating around down there... hehe

DanMc85 said,
So the question lies... can it be jailbroken? :)
You read my mind sir. Thats the first thing I thought about when they announced it. Jailbreak it and that **** will be unstoppable. So many features I've grown to love about my iPhone require jailbreaking. I personally wouldn't use them if I couldn't do it. It makes a world of a difference.

I usually like Apple products.. but the reason this would not do well as expected is

1. The name
2. The Front screen really does look ****ty.

Other than that, I guess it will take some time. the iPod took its time until a year or two into its lifecycle.. and then the floodgates opened.. so we'd never know..

I am really surprised at how little "oompf" they put into the software presentation of the desktop, etc. No one was ever going to top the iPhone rollout, but still, this was just Steve sitting on a sofa doing what I can do on my iPod Touch...

As much as I like my iMac, I've never bought an iPhone or a Touch for myself--my daughter has a Touch. And I despise that it doesn't have multi-tasking. But I really want one of these.

John S. said,
As much as I like my iMac, I've never bought an iPhone or a Touch for myself--my daughter has a Touch. And I despise that it doesn't have multi-tasking. But I really want one of these.

But this doesn't have multi-tasking either... :?

I guess I am in the minority who think this product is cool. I would never buy something like this @ $500 but I was def interested in it during the announcement. My only problems with it are the lack of flash and multitasking. I mainly use my ipod touch for email/quick web browsing (hate using it for more than a few minutes for web surfing) and a few games. So if this thing had a price tag @ 400.. id prob be pre-ordering it today...

I think that pretty much sums up the release in that article, a bit "meh" overall, especially considering the hype apple know would drill up over this. Rumours since 2001? They could play off that a little more and get this right first time, but it looks like we'll have to wait for v2 or v3 if it comes, for what I would consider a "new device" that actually pulls your attention away from your current device.

No multi-tasking, no camera, no built-in usb ports, no desktop like OS, no Flash suppor. Complete fail. My $300 netbook runs a full OS (Win 7 Ult) great and I can do lots more than the iPad out of the box.

No GPS ffs!

If there was any device that seemed the perfect navigator, it's this form factor. But noooooooooooooooooo... 8P

Edited by excalpius, Jan 28 2010, 3:26pm :

I have no motive for this to fail but it really SHOULD fail unfortunately it just looks like Apple knows that no matter what they sell their rabid fanboi user base will buy it!

some things can be fixed by software, the hardware drawbacks are big, but are they big enough? (assuming they fix the software side)

Will it fail? Probably for a Gen. 1 niche product. Probably not for being Apple.

I'd like to compare the lacking features with the first generation of the iPhone. It lacked some very basic functionality, but then at Gen. 2 they added some of those requested features. Though still some features were left out to be desired (for Gen. 3 and beyond) and people re-bought the phone and it gained new costumers for its 'brand new' new features. Rinse and repeat.

Will we see a similar cycle for the iPad? Most likely.

But if they realized what people wanted in the iPod, why not just put them in the first generation of this device? I think it's not ignorance or stupidity, they just know they can get a huge amount of people buying this one from the hype, then the next batch of people for the 2nd generation device with these great new features added! What a joke.

gazebee_ said,
The giant bezel is such a turn off. If the design had been like any of the mockups, I would be happy.

The emulator in their own SDK is looks better.

It will probably sell because it has 'Apple' branded to it and some may think its cool because it's another 'i' product. right?

The problem is Jobs didn't even meet his own criteria for a 3rd category of computer. This device simplifies certain tasks but does it do them head and shoulders better? No, it doesn't. It took too much of the iPhone/iPod Touch and not enough of the Macbook, this device NEEDED a touch friendly OS X, sacrificing none of the power that you get from the Macbook. The limited power of an iPhone/iPT is acceptable because in the end you can just toss it in your pocket and go on with your day. A device this large though demands more power and function.

Down the line that OS could fuel more touch-centric desktops and laptop machines and then they have multi-touch across the board.

Apple had so much time to make this thing live up to the reasonable expectations that people had, but as far as I'm concerned they dropped the ball big time here. I am perfectly happy with my iPod Touch to do everything they mentioned and with a MiFi from VERIZON I don't have to deal with AT&T when I'm outside of a hotspot.

Here's hoping that Google with Android or Chrome OS truly innovates this space, or heck even Microsoft.

I will not be suckered into buying this version. I'll wait till the intel version comes out with full multitasking and cameral support.
G5 nightmares all over again

For sure its a fail and the whole press conference was a failure! If apple did release the iPhone OS 3.2 for the iphone and ipod touches at the conference at least it would be better but they were to selfish!

wait for revision 4, the version that has all the features that should have been in the device from day 1...this the standard apple business model

Gen 1: Make semi-half baked product...early adopters buy

Gen 2:Make 90% baked product with all the essential features....those who held out will now buy

Gen 3: Complete the package and create the must have device that the early adopters will now buy


You can look at the iPhone as it follows this model...see MMS

Agree!!

Gen 1: No Camera, 3:4 Screen
Gen 2: No Camera, 9:12 Screen
Gen 3: Camera (only does photos), 9:12 Screen
Gen 4: Camera (with video), 9:12 Screen
Gen 5: Waterproof
U get the idea?
So on and so forth until Apple has every idiots money.

I think it has an upcoming place in businesses where clipboards are dominiant. So maybe doctors offices and the such. Close to Star Trek every day.

ccoltmanm said,
I think it has an upcoming place in businesses where clipboards are dominiant. So maybe doctors offices and the such. Close to Star Trek every day.

Yeah I know plenty of companies that would love to upgrade their $2 clipboard with a $500 one...oh sorry $499

Osiris said,

Yeah I know plenty of companies that would love to upgrade their $2 clipboard with a $500 one...oh sorry $499

Think of hospitals with wifi, doctors that need info instantly. Same thing with department heads.

ccoltmanm said,

Think of hospitals with wifi, doctors that need info instantly. Same thing with department heads.

And you think they've been waiting for apple to release this all this time? No, if hospitals needed/wanted a tablet, they'd have them by now, AND they'd run all the hospital apps they use already be it on Windows or linux.

Edited by George P, Jan 28 2010, 3:51pm :

ccoltmanm said,

Think of hospitals with wifi, doctors that need info instantly. Same thing with department heads.


Nooo, not at all. Why would doctors want something without a stylus?

Joshie said,

Nooo, not at all. Why would doctors want something without a stylus?

I was just thinking the same thing, haha. I'm sure anyone in the medical field wouldn't want to smear up the screen with whatever they were working on >.<

CronicHazel said,

I was just thinking the same thing, haha. I'm sure anyone in the medical field wouldn't want to smear up the screen with whatever they were working on >.<

Hospitals and medical fields are already using windows based tablets already. my doctors office to update patient info while you are in your appointment with a tablet.

GP007 said,

And you think they've been waiting for apple to release this all this time? No, if hospitals needed/wanted a tablet, they'd have them by now, AND they'd run all the hospital apps they use already be it on Windows or linux.

They do have them now. I've seen medical people waltzing around with Motion Computing tablets.

Admittedly, Apple's products have been seeing really good sales as of late, but that doesn't mean that this trend will continue forever. Apple's seen its share of failures as well. Just think of the Macintosh TV, for example.

I'm going to adopt a wait-and-see approach with this thing, though. Let's see how things turn out.

I would like this fail as it really does seem like they are not trying anymore, however there are some interesting developers out there and if it can be hacked and multi-tasking added then theres one plus. The ebook experience looks interesting, if they develop the market and software correctly I can see this being pretty useful for students.

Lastly Apple are pretty persistent with their devices and this thing has no where to go but up. Next version adds a camera(s), unlocks multi-tasking etc, maybe we see a proper itunes on it, an sd reader and a usb mayhaps??, I mean there is alot they could do to improve it and probably will.

Anyway thats the apple offering for now, my next thing to keep an eye on will be the Andriod based ICD Vega tablet later this year. That thing could take off if Andriod developers step up and produce some nice software.

It erks me that this device is being compared to something between a smart phone and a computer.
This device is not a phone at all. not even dumb phone.
This device is somewhere between a computer tablet and an iPod touch.

Smart phone.. PLEASE!!

and Yes.. Big Fail....

I agree with all of the "What's wrong with it" points. For a tablet device you cannot multi-task or view flash on webpages? I own a Macbook Pro which I love but I found this and other points to be pretty disappointing for an "in-between" device.

It'll probably sell well as it shiny and has the Apple logo on it.
Anxious to see what is going to happen.

I don't think this will sell like iPod/iPhone has. It isn't bringing anything to the table that isn't already there at a lower price.

Fail in my view, now, if it were all screen and zero bevel, i'd like the design, honestly, the home button? why couldn't that be on the side or corner of the device? and instead of it being a button, it were some sort of home sensor, touch the corner and you're home

this thing needs to multi-task, honestly, how can you be productive with this? sure i guess a tweet might be considered productive these days

its just an ugly device, i mean its an oversized iPod touch, what were they thinking? i know Apple likes to have some devices look similar but they should of stepped outside the box for this one, anybody could of come up with a better design than this and in fact, they have if you look around various concept attempts

what would i buy? a slim/sleek netbook at 8"? that converts into a tablet, Windows 7 or Chrome OS being ideal, at this point i don't care if you need new dongles/adapters because of smaller redesigned ports (as long as they came with the device) ... i don't know.

this tablet will be popular with Apple fans, nobody else

I think the real question is.........is there a another category of device in between the smartphone and laptop that could be successful in the long run? There are netbooks, and now iPads/tablets. Personally, I don't see myself getting into the netbook/iPad market, but who knows, that may change. I just can't see how they would fit my needs and I also think a majority of the potential market is asking that very same question.

Is there something else that is still missing?

Greenstein said,
I think the real question is.........is there a another category of device in between the smartphone and laptop that could be successful in the long run? There are netbooks, and now iPads/tablets. Personally, I don't see myself getting into the netbook/iPad market, but who knows, that may change. I just can't see how they would fit my needs and I also think a majority of the potential market is asking that very same question.

Is there something else that is still missing?

Well, I DO think that there is a tablet market. Something like the Courier I would probably buy (Cost being of course a factor). And I wouldn't say that this device doesn't have nice features. For the most part I like the form factor (Though I'd worry about scratching the screen), I like the keyboard and the fact that you can use it horizontally or vertically. But it really falls very short. Hopefully Microsoft will take the positive from this device and make the Courier that must have item...

The idea is nice, but it is lacking in features. Wait for next year when they add a camera and something else, then the year after that when they add two more features and then it will be worth it. (Maybe)

Piggy said,
The idea is nice, but it is lacking in features. Wait for next year when they add a camera and something else, then the year after that when they add two more features and then it will be worth it. (Maybe)

Yeah, that's a good point you made there... Apple doesn't add a large amount of features in revisions generally... This device in its present form is going to require several generations to be anywhere close to a worthwhile product...

AltecXP said,
I can see devices like this having a place in about 5yrs or so, but right now it just does not meet my needs.

Well, I wouldn't even say that personally. It's too limited. Anything like that that's going to make its way into my home has to be much more full featured and solve more of my problems... This just doesn't do anywhere near enough...

Good read.
I personally think the sales will be boosted by the whole iPhone/iPod/iRubbish Bins that sell well. However, for me I would say it is just a play around gadget, nothing that will be of much use. You may as well get a Netbook and have the full functionality of a Laptop at your hands.

Many people said the iPod would fail, and later on the iPhone as well.

Personally I'm not entirely enthusiastic about the iPad and I certainly wouldn't buy one as it is now, but things could certainly change.

Right now, I don't think the iPad will be much of an success and will remain a bit of a niche product like the Apple TV. There just isn't that much to set it apart from the iPod touch and iPhone. Maybe when the next software update hits.

.Neo said,

Steve Balmer and others were pretty certain of it.

And they also slashed prices and introduced the app store. Launch iPhone 1.0 was rather dull once the touch screen interface "wow" wore off.

Redestium said,

And they also slashed prices and introduced the app store. Launch iPhone 1.0 was rather dull once the touch screen interface "wow" wore off.

iPhone 1.0 was nothing but a massive success, the app store kept the momentum going.

Although i agree with the article, this is a lackluster product.

REM2000 said,

iPhone 1.0 was nothing but a massive success, the app store kept the momentum going.

Although i agree with the article, this is a lackluster product.

Success after they slashed prices and brought the app store out!

Redestium said,
Success after they slashed prices and brought the app store out!

Not really, even before that. And even so, if I recall correctly Balmer claimed the iPhone would [u]never[/u] become a success.

.Neo said,

Not really, even before that. And even so, if I recall correctly Balmer claimed the iPhone would [u]never[/u] become a success.

He didnt say that...from the speech he made, the time he talked, it was with iPhone which didnt had app store, which had only gadgets & was around $599 or so...probably if iPhone would have been there, it would have not been a success for sure.

Julius Caro said,
People said the iphone would fail? The thing was treated as the jesus phone from day 0.

Yes, but the iPhone's innovative features and unique software lifted it out of the initial negativity. I see absolutely none of that with the iPad. There's absolutely NO innovation and certainly nothing unique. I'm stunned, frankly! Maybe Version 2 & 3 will move it in that direction.

EspressoMan said,

Yes, but the iPhone's innovative features and unique software lifted it out of the initial negativity. I see absolutely none of that with the iPad. There's absolutely NO innovation and certainly nothing unique. I'm stunned, frankly! Maybe Version 2 & 3 will move it in that direction.

I'm really shocked as well... With the iPhone and the iPod Touch being out there, this device doesn't bring anything to the table that can wow you... I mean maybe if it had come out before the iPhone and took advantage of the "Wow" factor of the initial release of the touch UI? But this is really very lackluster...

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2010/01/27/apple-drops-an-idud.aspx

Pretty much sums it up lol

iPad has no solid direction or purpose it's in a niche market which hasn't been popular and never really will be. The device is a poor convergence of hardware, software, thought and purpose. I think it's one of those things that leaves more questions then answers more then anything.

There's no real point in buying one even at it's price.
Maybe we need to wonder why those weird bubble vehicle things between a motorbike and car never took off.

Digix said,
http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2010/01/27/apple-drops-an-idud.aspx

Pretty much sums it up lol

iPad has no solid direction or purpose it's in a niche market which hasn't been popular and never really will be. The device is a poor convergence of hardware, software, thought and purpose. I think it's one of those things that leaves more questions then answers more then anything.

There's no real point in buying one even at it's price.
Maybe we need to wonder why those weird bubble vehicle things between a motorbike and car never took off.

I agree with most of the article, however pulling out hand recognition does not make sense with this device as it's designed around human fingers not a stylus. Which for convenience should be where all slate / tablet computers should be aiming for design wise.

Caveman-ugh said,
Wait for the Microsoft "Courier" that has a purpose and a camera ... unlike the iPad !

Well, the Courier (From what's been shown) has a very well thought out and useful Tablet OS... That's a big deal. The iPad has some pretty transitions and such in their applications, but they don't make use of the workflow necessitated by a tablet... It's almost as if Apple didn't understand what a tablet was...

I'm waiting for the Courier as well.

detoxa said,
The Fail-Police called and kicked the door down

your wife called. said not to wait up and will be home after she makes me breakfast

Edited by CrossCheck, Jan 29 2010, 12:38am :

DirtyLarry said,
Yes. Yes it is.

+1

complete fail...
I have an ipod touch, and i do not need another one which i need a bag to carry with me then i can just take my 13" laptop it's great :P

as for tablets though if the price tag isnt to high, probably not higher than apples, hp will definitely sell one to me when the release it, at least i think so :p

Leonick said,

+1

complete fail...
I have an ipod touch, and i do not need another one which i need a bag to carry with me then i can just take my 13" laptop it's great :P

as for tablets though if the price tag isnt to high, probably not higher than apples, hp will definitely sell one to me when the release it, at least i think so :p

I agree the idea of a net-tablet is intriguing, although a win7 tablet vs. iPod touch on crack...I'd much rather have the HP Slate...now if apple comes back and makes a tablet w/ the full blown OS X in the same spec/price range I'm totally on board.

Absolute Fail. You can get a far better Netbook a lot cheaper than this which does loads more and is the same size! 1 GHz? Pah! It doesn't even do webcam...

It certainly is set between fail and major fail. It will revolutionize the way we look at fail forever. Just imagine, scrolling through fail with your fingertips, this is just wow. Its just ridden with fail. Yes, we call it the iFail, iPad for short.

DirtyLarry said,
Yes. Yes it is.

I have to agree that this is a fail... I never imagined they would release a device this crippled... It isn't even really a tablet. It isn't even that useful... It's pretty, I think it's very nice looking, but I can't foresee this gaining that much of a market presence...

I'll wait for the Courier...

Billus said,
It certainly is set between fail and major fail. It will revolutionize the way we look at fail forever. Just imagine, scrolling through fail with your fingertips, this is just wow. Its just ridden with fail. Yes, we call it the iFail, iPad for short.

LOL, that was hilarious Jobs Speak...

But seriously, I am a HUGE apple fan, i have an iMac my own and been using Apple stuff for ages... But seriously...

the iPad is BIGASS FAIL.

Apple NEEDS to INNOVATE again, in order to be the Apple, every Apple fan is proud of.

In the past 2-3 years Apple nearly hasn't pushed anything new, that makes Apple kind of "ordinary" - Apple fans are allergic against that.

Woe you Apple, don't think that raising shareholder value is good enough.
You might fall quickly.
NEVER stop being Apple.

Glassed Silver:win - An Apple fan - a big but disappointed one.

DirtyLarry said,
Yes. Yes it is.

This is already a Legendary Fail you will be telling to your grandsons!!!
The i-PAD got nominated for the FIASCOAWARDS 2010 with the announcement itself. IMPRESSIVE.